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remember Martin Luther King? He had a dream. Well, he never lived to see his dream turn into a woke nightmare. This week, Boston unveiled a sculpture attributed to the honor of the good doctor Martin Luther King. I don't know that the public really appreciates it in his memory. I don't think he would appreciate it in his memory. We'll get into stories like that. It's not that important, but I think it's a sign of the times. Next, we're gonna learn about the artist 

formerly known as the vice president and his little fed Corvette. And where are these documents stored in his garage, where Hunter is probably hanging out doing crack, where these documents have been stored and how that differs? As the mainstream media will tell you, it's very different than Mar a Lago being rated and president former president Trump and the all these sort of things. So the two types of classified documents unsecured at their homes are different, but the same. So we're gonna get into stories like that. We also have there was, this news this week of the FAA outage. 

Like, ten thousand plus flights all at the same time simultaneously offline. People stranded, days, weeks disrupted, families trying to get to see each other, can't see each other, they missed their vacations. And it's due, allegedly, to a guy, little guy, worker bee, little Dilbert guy, and he uploaded the wrong file, and it took the whole thing offline. Oh, golly jeez. That happened. It's an accident. It's incompetence. Sorry about that. Won't happen again. Except the next day, cross dotted line over in Canada, same thing happens. So is somebody probing us, someone testing our fences? Is someone testing our defenses 

in the reactive time of taking down infrastructure? Possibly. And might that fit in with a great reset agenda? Possibly. We'll find out about that later tonight. We also have the creation of a new criminal class in America. Forty plus million new felons were created overnight with the stroke of a pen, or maybe they used chat GPT over there at the ATF to write a law. Yes. The ATF apparently now passes laws that make forty million forty million American gun owners, criminals, felons, 

federal criminals in a hundred and twenty days. So either become a criminal or register thy firearms. So we're gonna have to start learning more about the second amendment and keep up with these crazy folks who want everybody to be disarmed and only them to have the guns. I don't know if they've earned our trust to that level. So we're gonna have to take look stories like that. There's also new Russia Twitter files. There's Pfizer Twitter files. Right now, there's Pfizer, sorry, Fauci files dropping. So there's a lot from the Twittersphere. And, again, none of us have seen the evidence. 

None of us have seen a WikiLeaks data dump where we can search and query the evidence. Hopefully, that's forthcoming. For now, we've got, these breadcrumbs that are spread on Twitter. Fifteen minute cities, we talked about it last week. It's not just a World Economic Forum plan. There's a lot more detail to that. So we're gonna dig in with a deep dive tonight, on that very topic and learn about the bigger agenda, who's behind it, when it might be coming to you, and what those limitations are. And last but not least, we have a special guest tonight. 

We have after two years of talking about this topic, we have the truth about Wuhan. We have a whistleblower coming tonight, doctor Andrew Huff, a former vice president at EcoHealth Alliance who worked for Peter Dazsak. So we're gonna learn a little bit more about how the pangolin and the the bat got together at the wet market. Now you're gonna hear the real truth. So take these things with a grain of salt, check your facts for yourself. We're not asking anyone to believe we're asking you to be incredulous enough to actually read a book, start looking at the facts, maybe read a few more books, start digging into some of these reports we show on the show every week, and get yourself learnified in the light direction. 

Right now, let's kick off tonight's event with Luke Radowsky. You're gonna see not pigs in the mud. Don't make that joke. There are some people stuck in the mud. There's some other people trying to assist. There may or may not be appreciation in that assistance, and then they might get a little pushy. Let's see. Let's kick off with Lou Lou Podowski of we are change dot org and the best political shirts dot com. Talk about a sticky situation. And even though the cops were slow, they still got Greta Thunberg. 

Welcome back, beautiful and amazing human beings. Beings. My name is Luke Radowski here. We are change dot org, and we have a lot of absolutely crazy news to get into today. Of course, not just domestically here inside of the United States, but internationally as well, where, of course, we have the Davos meeting officially starting. Lots to talk about that, especially with their latest fingerprint ID, totalitarian surveillance technology. Technology. We're gonna be talking about that, plus a lot more, all in this independent media broadcast. If you like the shirt that I'm wearing, you could get it on the best political shirts dot com. The clip that I'm wearing, you could get it on the best political shirts dot com. The clip that I'm wearing, the 

wearing, you could get it on the best political shirts dot com. The clip that we played in the beginning of this video was from Lutz Hart, Germany, where a random filmmaker was catching the moments where police officers were getting, stuck in flood to the point where even some protesters were helping them get out of it. What are the people there protesting? Well, they're protesting with Greta Thunberg against coal, against energy, against heat, against electricity 

that the German government depends on more than ever since, of course, they domestically crippled themselves with green energy policies that have made energy very expensive. And now there's people protesting domestic energy exploration in Germany, which will make energy even more expensive than it already is. Yeah. Very strange world that we're living in that is only getting stranger by the day, reveal of this monstrosity that was just 

unraveled in Boston Commons, where they have a new bronze sculpture that is called, quote, the embrace. This sculpture was supposed to honor MLK, but, a lot of people are are are questioning the this kind of honoring as a lot of people are bringing up the fact that this modern art sculpture definitely looks like a huge turd or a wiener, which has sparked a lot of conversations and, of course, memes as well. And this strange world is only getting stranger 

as Wells Fargo, the country's number one mortgage lender, has just announced that they are going to be giving out loans based on your skin color. In order to, quote, advanced racial equity, you will now be checked at the door at Wells Fargo with the handy skin color chart to see if you qualify for their business services. I say that facetiously, but that's probably what they're gonna be doing here since, you know, racism and discrimination, as long as it's against a certain type of group of people, is all, of course, encouraged and pushed on by, of course, the ESG social credit score system, which also prioritizes men taking over a lot of women's roles that the previously 

women's Miss Universe now has a new transgender owner, which you must accept or else. Welcome to the Miss Universe organization. From now on, it's gonna be run by women. Women. Owned by Juan Soomani. Women. Women. Now I don't know about you, but but I lived in simpler times where women didn't have 

wieners. But, hey, that's just me. Maybe I'm just old fashioned here. And to add to the craziness of our modern society, the new government funded food pyramid now is telling people that eating high fructose corn syrup, seed oil filled, the lucky charms, is healthier than eggs and steak. Yes. You heard that correctly. Cheese, eggs, beef, the government doesn't want you eating any of that. Almond M and M's. Yep. Lucky Charms, seed oils, orange juice, almond milk, Mini Wheats, and, of course, Lucky Charms 

all scored higher as a designated recommended food by the US government. And this is why, more than ever, we are extremely happy to have luke uncensored dot com, our own platform where we get to make our own food pyramid. Let's continue with the story of the big bombshell. We just found out that the president of the United States now lost even more classified documents than previously beforehand. This says, of course, the former president of the United States had his private house raided because, of course, similar allegations while the current president, of course, just faces a little bit of scrutiny 

from, of course, the corporate media. And what did you expect from a Justice Department and Federal Bureau of Investigations that actively is also engaged in the World Economic Forum at Davos? And as the president of the United States stumbles around, a lot of very powerful globalists, internationalists are going to be meeting in quasi secret and public meetings in just a few hours at Davos, Switzerland, the highest place in all of Europe where five thousand Swiss military men will, of course, be running a full security detail of the entire event using, of course, advanced bi 

fingerprint scanning technology to make sure that everyone's digital social credit score is up and aligned with the approved talking points of the internationalist corporate heads and bureaucrats meeting during these elitist confab meetings. Now according to CNBC, there's nothing to see here and Davos is, you know, just a target for conspiracy theorists and anarchists. Nothing to see here as the Swiss military sends thousands of soldiers there, two thousand five hundred global leaders with some of the biggest corporate heads in the world meeting together. This says, of course, their theme for this year is, quote, a very generalized 

basic b term that absolutely amounts to nothing that says, quote, history at a turning point, government policies and business strategies. This says it's important to know that many at Davos brag about their influence in government and society and how they even have infiltrated many members of governments, cabinets, and parliaments that essentially do their own bidding. CBS News thinks you're a conspiracy theorist if you're concerned about this. This says, of course, many prominent American 

politicians and bureaucrats will be in attendance for this meeting, that, of course that, of course, runs a highly partisan police organization that routinely punishes people because of their political beliefs rather rather than, of course, them actually committing any crimes. Joe Manchin is also going to be in attendance as well as many other senators and congress members from the United States. This as, of course, CNBC doesn't really like to talk about this but there's also a lot of scams, discredited organizations, 

and many failures of Davos that, of course, they conveniently cover up. So and off the top of my head, whether it's their official partnership with FTX, which many people believe was a money laundering operation for a lot of special interest countries, whether it's their involvement in Ukraine or their involvement in Sri Lanka that absolutely wrecked havoc on that poor country, we have to understand here that this group, even though they talk about how they want to be there for the people and help the people, essentially, are in the business of screwing over all the other people that are not them. This says, of course, global income 

also important it's also important to note here with BlackRock and other major financial institutions that are going to be involved here, that there is definitely going to be a lot of wheeling and dealing behind closed doors. Now, of course, there will be some public meetings where randomly someone will brag about all the power and influence that they have, and we, of course, will be keeping a close eye on that and reporting on it as best as we can as, of course, the public facade is usually a lot different than, of course, what's really happening behind the scenes behind all the PR fluff marketing and propaganda, 

especially from institutions like CNBC that, of course, work in partnership with a lot of these very powerful forces that usually whitewash a lot of their larger power grabs against the people. And with more and more difficult financial times coming our way, I think it's important to pay attention to what some of the most powerful people in the world are doing and calling for this as, of course, there's also going to be a lot of shill. YouTubers covering this shindig, of course, Nas Daley, fresh off of his SBF FTX scandal that he promoted wildly, which in my opinion absolutely discredited him, as well as all these other paid off individuals that probably are just going to be regurgitating 

a lot of the larger PR talking points, not daring to challenge or question anyone in authority as of course their job will be just to regurgitate the slop shoved down their pie holes. That's my opinion of it. I might be wrong. I might be surprised. If I am, hey, I'll call it out here. But, hey, that's my opinion. That's my take. If you think I'm wrong, let me know why. That's a excellent report coming from a original gangster of the Davos investigative crowd. I think only before 

people like Luke and Alex Jones went, there was a guy named, well, there's a couple of them. I don't want Jim Tucker and Robert Galen Ross were the main people who had books and went to these conferences, and it was kinda like a myth. And then journalists like Luke put their feet on the ground. They went to these things. They dealt with the Swiss and the German police. Yeah. And they went and, and they also encountered mainstream media journalists back then. And, they they know their hacks. They know they're not covering. They know they're on the golden golden handcuffs 

paycheck. They have to say these things are the loser job. They were jealous of Luke because they don't know how to be independent, how to make their own way in the world. So excellent reporting comes from people who are willing to go there and speak the truth about what they see and not base it on here's, you know, a couple hundred of the richest people in in the world. And if you wanna work for them, you better say nice things about them. So the less you need from that empire, the better. Now we're gonna talk about that same empire. Davos is meeting this week. What is Davos? It's the World Economic Forum's front group. You know? And behind the World Economic Forum on this show, if you're a fan, you know the Club of Rome's predicament of mankind nineteen seventy document 

led to the World Economic Forum. And Then you've got people in the World Economic Forum like this character, Yuval Noah Harari. He writes books like Homo Deus and, these ideas of cyberneticism taking over humanity. Because if if there's no God, then people like Yuval, they can play God. They can play God with your future. You've also got people here. Here's another World Economic Forum, young leader. This is Kristia Freeland. Where do you know that name from? That's right. She's number two under another young global leader from the World Economic Forum named Justin Trudeau. 

And during the pandemic, during the lockdowns, she had some really interesting things to say about the herd. And here in her book, plutocrats, the rise of the new global super rich and the fall of everyone else. Do you see what she's saying there? It's like in the subtitle, they have a plan for your future. It's called the great reset. Now, if you don't like their plan, which is your right as a human being, not to like their plans, you gotta make a better plan. So a better plan we got going on this year, it's called the greater reset. 

And it's not the first one. I think the first one was, oh, it was over a year ago. This is the fourth one. And I participated in the first one, and then we started sponsoring. We sponsored the second one. We're also cosponsors here of the fourth one. And tonight, we have one of the organizers, John, the man on the scene, Bush. He is so busy. We should call him Busy Beaver Bush because he's got projects going all the time, servicing many needs, whether it's moving out to the country and get your micro house and, you know, get your, urban off the grid lifestyle on or bigger ideas, like, let's get a group of people together and have a bigger, better party than the people over there at Davos. John, how you doing tonight? 

Well, let's see if this works. You're muted. Uh-huh. Yeah. That this is how my day started, like, ten hours ago. Double mute. There you go. How are you doing? Good. Good. Thanks for having me, and thanks so much for y'all's generous, contribution to help make make all what we do possible at the greater reset. So, when, what, what's the dates? What's the website? Let me get LD to get it up on, on screen there for you. And what type of people do you have presenting at your greater reset for? 

Okay. So it's going down January eighteenth through the twenty second. We we've shifted into an annual deal, and it'll probably most likely be every January every year. People can join us in person still in Bastrop, Trop, Texas, which is where we hosted the land summit. It's just east of Austin. Or you could join Derek and Ramiro. They're hosting the event in Morelia, Mexico. There's tickets available. You can link to all that at the greater reset dot org. And then we provide the stream all five days for free online. 

And people can go to the greater reset dot org, the greater reset dot org. The stream will just be there on the home page when we go live. But you're better off signing up for our email newsletter so you can get all the updates, and you can get notified exactly when we go live. The schedule's on that website as well, degreaterreset dot org. And we kick off every day around ten AM, and then we wrap up around five o'clock taking a lunch break. Well, we got some incredible speakers. I guess one of the bigger names is, mister Del Bigtree himself, who will be presenting live from Mexico. 

We have Jack Spearko, my good friend. We got Fuzzy Pony. I don't know if he still goes by that, but that's his Twitter handle. He's one of the lead developers for Monero. Mark Moss, who I've been following a lot lately. He does a lot of stuff about the great reset and finances. Got a big following on YouTube. Alex Zach. There's a whole big cast of characters, and we're really grateful. And I just wanna shout out my team because they're the ones that made both of these asks happen. We got JP Sears that will be giving a motivational talk at our Saturday night concert, and the headliner for that concert is Zubie, who's real popular on Twitter and, 

just lays a lot of intellectual haymakers and does a lot of good work waking people up. But what what I think is most valuable, because these people are all bright minded. You can find their work elsewhere as we're bringing them all together on the topic of cocreation and specifically what can we do, as far as solutions go for the great reset. But what's more valuable than that, and I'm sure your listeners and the participants and autonomy know, is the community that we bring together and the connections and the relationships and the networking that takes place. Because at the end of the day, we're not gonna be able to create the world we want doing it alone. So 

perhaps the most important thing for creating a better life for ourselves and a better world for future generations is to find our fellow freedom lovers and to get busy building together with them. And so we are creating a international opportunity for people to do just that. Speaker one: Well, I like what you're doing because there's only so many in real life events that are kinda offered in the Freedom and Liberty community that offer solutions. There's a lot to tell you about the problems, and that's good to get people aware. But once they're aware, we have to give them constructive things to do that they can mitigate some of these issues out there. Like, the you their great reset is gonna run us over 

if we don't put up some intellectual resistance to that in a nonaggressive way. So we have to get stronger numbers of people understanding. There's people. They have a plan. They wrote it down. You're not in it. If you want a life or if you want a future for your children, your grandchildren, if you want a legacy that resembles freedom in any way, we have to start meeting each other and taking actions in reality. So we can leverage online, but it's great for you to host at a conference center, and I've seen the size of your conferences. And you get all those people together. Now my next question is because I've seen those conferences from the the the video streaming view. Right? I get to see into it, which is nice. 

Everyone there is very, well dressed, respectful. Is JP gonna have to wear two sleeves for this gig? I saw a funny video. I mean, it's actually a pretty diverse group, so not everybody's gonna be as well dressed as you are there, mister Grove. There's actually quite a few, you know, hippies and rabble rousers in the mix. But, yeah, you're right. A tank top. He'll probably wear a tank top. I was just poking in front of his news reporter gig where he only has one sleeve in the Yeah. House. I was trying to be fine. Is this a comedy show? I don't know. You didn't get the memo. This is a comedy show, John. No. You're a funny guy. 

You're a funny guy, mister Brown. Like a clown. Thank you. I did your, your your free, mindset thing earlier. I was impressed, and it was actually it came at a really much needed time because you mentioned how much stuff I do and how I got all these busy projects and stuff. I think there's times when I overdo it and when I pile so much on that things start to have a lot of friction, and then I find myself being short with family members and not giving my lovely wife the attention that she deserves. And, 

I appreciated your lecture because there's a lot of struggle and adversity that I'm facing in my life right now, and I get the choice. I get the opportunity to choose whether it kills me, crushes me, causes me to just go into just a total state of panic and overwhelm, or I leverage the adversity, find the lessons that are there, how I can improve moving forward, and how I can be a better version of myself. So I'm always aware of all that information, but to hear somebody else present it, it really just hits home, and it was some much needed medicine. So thank you so much. Yeah. I think it's good for our audiences to see that, we're continually growing, learning, triggering our complexity. 

What you've learned to do since the first, great reset greater reset, you guys have all grown and your team has become more competent. Your audience has grown. You really have a significant substantial international offering. I mean, to run a conference, not only live streaming, but two live events, is remarkable. Yeah. That's something that's unique about what we do. And I think this year will probably, hit it out of the park more so than past years because it there is, like you said, a lot of complexity to that. And, you know, an online only event 

is pretty dang simple. I'm not gonna say it's easy, but there's not a ton of stuff that goes into it. An in person event, little more challenging. Sometimes it's actually easier because you don't have to worry about the stream and the tech and that stuff. And then when you do the in person online hybrid, that's where things start to get complicated, especially something that I learned from the Tony Robbins and Grant Cardone, and I would watch their online events because a lot of people were forced to innovate during the pandemic. Right? A lot of people stepped into victim mode and blamed the lockdowns of the pandemic. 

Meanwhile, many other people, myself included, found success that we never had before, had our best years. Right? So it's all about, you know, what becoming antifragile. Right? But when you mix in an in person two in person events in Mexico and, and Texas, and it's online, and I was gonna share earlier, I learned from Tony Robbins and Grant how how you can actually bring up Zoom participants, and then they can speak. They can ask a question and the in person audience hears them too, and they can interact with the speakers. That was something that I was blown away with and really upped the experience. So I was like, how can I do that at my events? But nonetheless, yeah, it's it's a challenge, but it's really cool and really special to be bringing together this audience. And and not only that, 

we also do these activation hubs. So we're very strongly pushing people to come to the in person events. I know it's late in the game for many people's logistics and and planning, but there's you can link up at the Freedom Cell network. You can connect with people at thegreaterreset dot org, and you can either join or, if there's not one in your area, you can host a little hub. And it could be going to the restaurant, it could be renting a space, or it could just be getting together with some freedom people or your local freedom cell group and watching at your house or at the office or whatever. So it's all about bringing the people together in real life, and I think a lot of people in our movement lose sight of the importance of that. 

And then after, Zubie's playing, apparently, you got this new guy, DJ Autonomous. You're taking a chance and giving us this this DJ who's a old bottle of wine with a new handle. Right? That's right. Remarketing going on there. How how in in what variety of ways does it help your audience to have some music and some theme and some some vibes? Is it, like, a communal sense? Is it a tribal or ritual? Or what do you think it adds to it? Because I know, like, church uses music. Other places use music. Maybe not even as effectively. 

But if you get somebody to get something upbeat, and now when I'm receiving that information, I'm open to listening and learning, and I'm in that that flow mode of exchange. That's what people are all about. That's a new addition in the last year or so. Congratulations for upping your game. You're like Tony Robbins now, bro. Got a little room to grow. We're super excited to have DJ Autonomous. Really stoked for him to be, sharing some tunes and then also doing the DJ interludes in between speakers. 

And for those not aware, DJ Autonomous is none other than the Joshua Hale, capital t h e Joshua Hale. That guy's a swell guy. But, yeah, the music really makes a big difference. And Joshua came down for the Land Summit and, did music when the speakers were coming on and off. And that's another thing I picked up from Funnel Hacking Live. That's Russell Brunson's event, and all these Tony Robbins things. They're, like, putting on a show. It's not just some educational thing. Let's all fall asleep and wonk out together. It's entertainment. Because that's something that we're trying to bring. And you're you hit the nail on the head when it comes to the music, there's this added 

vibe and connection that takes place. And I realized that me and Rebecca just got married recently, and we had this show with these performers doing, like, fire spinning and all this stuff. But we also had just a DJ playing disco and pop music and Michael Jackson and my family you know, my mom's lineage is from Mexico, so we had some Tejano mixed in, you know? But it turns out we cut the dancing part a little short for my liking, and we had this nice hippie performance that went on and on. And I was like, dang. Because when everybody's out on the dance floor jamming together and bringing two families together, right, or bringing a bunch of freedom lovers together, there's a bond, I think, that gets cemented. 

So, anyway, when our anniversary comes around, we're gonna have a giant dance party to make up for it. But, yeah, having music, Zubie. I'm gonna do a little freestyle, DJ Autonomous. My friend Mike Winter's coming down. He's a DJ as well. It's definitely a good opportunity for people to have fun and to really see that it's not just about fighting or who understands the philosophy the best or whatever. It's just about getting together and and making new friends and relating to one another. Well, and it's also like the cross pollination. You're gonna have, like, Jack Spearko fans there. You're gonna have other local fans there. You're gonna have Del Big Tree fans there. You're gonna have fans of your work there, of course, and maybe people that went to the land summit but haven't gone to the greater reset. Right? They find out about these things. So it's a couple meetings away. And what you're also demonstrating for the audience is your continued investment in your own learning so you can keep, you know, expanding your boundaries of liberty and freedom and the lifestyle that you have for you and your family and to be able to move forward and show other people 

not through just, you know, talking. You're showing them by example. You're getting them outside saying this is how you can do it on a small piece of property, and this is the structure you would need for your family, and these sort of things that you help people find the answers to. So I think it's really important. I'm glad to see you thriving and having this fourth one. I'm thinking it's, three days away. So if people find out about it, they can drive if they're within a couple hours. And if not, where can they get the online linkage? Yeah. The greater reset dot org has all the details. You can register for the Mexico event. It's a preregistration. 

Derek is also agarists. He won't even take cards or anything. I'll definitely take your money via credit card. No qualms there. But, the greater reset dot org will link you to the Mexico sign up, or you get tickets at the Texas event. We actually started a three day pass also. So you could buy a five day pass. There's also a VIP pass. You get all sorts of special perks. Or you can come with a three day pass. So Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, or Friday, Saturday, Sunday, for those of you that have to work during the week. But again, you can watch for free at the greater reset dot org, the greater reset dot org. There's a email newsletter there. In fact, you can sign up shortcut at the greater reset dot org slash email. 

The greater reset dot org slash email. That way you'll be notified when we go live. You'll hear all the updates, hear all the cool info that goes on behind the scenes. And once again, super, grateful for Autonomy and you guys, sponsoring and contributing because we're able to give away the stream for free. These events don't make a lot of money. In fact, this app might be a loser for my company and all the, like, all the, manpower that we're diverting at it. Right? But there's all sorts of benefits, and we do it, you know, because we care. It needs to be done. End of the day, we're able to pull this stuff off because of the sponsors. So I just wanna thank you again for the financial contribution. It really makes 

this more accessible for as many people as possible. So people can absolutely watch for free online at the greater reset dot org. I really liked that movie back in the day, Pay It Forward, that whole sort of idea. I don't like Kevin Space anymore, but that was a good idea, and I I try to do that where I can. You're also gonna see, plenty of autonomy graduates at either site because there's plenty in Mexico, there's plenty in Texas. So you're gonna have good support. If you need anything, please just ask any of my graduates and tell them I said for you to ask them. They'd be happy to help you out. If they're there on the scene, they wanna be useful. They wanna display their culture of excellence. There are no excuses attitude. They'd be happy to give you a hand. 

I'm proud to sponsor your event, and, I want it to be a success. So let me know if there's anything else I can do, and good luck on, the eighteenth. And I wanna see the streaming link. I got time on my schedule, a whole poke so I can, take in the best parts of it. Cool. Alright. Thanks for everything, Richard. Alright. Thanks for popping in tonight. I appreciate it. Yeah, no problem. Take care. Peace. Bye. All right. Now it's me, Tony and LG, and we got Cody. He's our streamer. All right. So now moving forward, we had a ton of news that's happened in the last week, so we can spin a wheel. We can throw some darts. There are stories we gotta cover later. We'll probably do the the Twitter files, the Pfizer files, the Fauci files after our special guest tonight, 

the whistleblower from eco health Alliance. And if you have followed this podcast since episode one, a couple years ago, you know, all about eco health Alliance. And if you don't know about eco health Alliance, we'll, we'll lay the groundwork before we get to that interview, in a little bit, but I'm just thinking, maybe the little fed Corvette because that's not a big story. But So you wanna go to Chris Seeley first? She has our medium malfeasance. Yeah. She probably she probably hits on in there. Yeah. Because the the gist is, like, I wouldn't make a big deal. I don't care if Biden has, 

you know, documents by his Corvette. I don't care if Obama has thirty million documents in, like, some old bowling alley or whatever he does. But when they made a big deal about the orange man bad, I just feel like fair is fair. Is anyone raiding Delaware or wherever Biden's place is? I don't know. Whatever. These people are wild. Let's go to Christy Lee in this week and not make media malfeasance. She's got, like her top hits of the week. Let's check it out, and then we'll be back to continue the show. Yet one more example of why in Washington DC, 

if it were not for double standards, there wouldn't be any standards at all. All. Well, this graphic didn't age well. It was already missing some more material delineations, but we'll get to that in a moment. Bringing you what's ignored, sensationalized, misleading, or just plain false, here's your media malfeasance for the week. CNN and other probed media were quick to keep the spotlight on orange man bad when news came out this week that classified ducks were discovered in Biden's possession, and the excuses grow along with the bad news for Biden. 

It was just a small amount. Trump had more. As if that would make a difference. What if among Biden's small amount, there were the nuclear secrets that the media speculated Trump had, but were never able to Biden was cooperating. He turned them over right away. Really? The documents were from his time as VP about six years ago and possible several shuffling around the pates from one place to another. And since he was VP at the time, he didn't have the absolute authority to declassify. 

Trump as president did have that authority. The AP, CNN, and others chose to leave that point. Ma'am, but Biden had the docs locked up in a private office, not a residence like Trump. Yeah. But it was at a University of Penn think tank, which has received more than sixty million dollars from China. Who all had access? What were SCI level documents doing outside of the required SCIF? The small amount Corvette? What were you thinking? Let me, the we're not gonna get a chance to speak on all this, god willing, soon. But as I said earlier this week, 

people and by the way, my Corvette's in a locked garage. That also obliterated it wasn't a resident's defense. Never mind Trump's private residence is a secure property protected by the secret service, not a garage. What's worse is it might not even be Joe Biden's garage, but rather his son Hunter, who is under federal investigation right now. New York Post reporter Miranda Devine highlighted a Hunter Biden background screening with the corresponding address listed. We don't know what really happened here. We don't know how many documents there were. For all we know, there could be, triple the number of document 

that Donald Trump had. Yeah. And and just, totally irresponsible. In light of the security breach, Republican lawmakers are demanding president this is all Trump's. This is all Trump's fault. No. Seriously. The looming arrival of Trump to the White House left many of Obama and Biden's aids wary of the future and eager to cement many of their accomplishments. 

That's from CNN's article Friday, titled Biden's whirlwind final days as vice president had aids scrambling to close his White House office. He was just way too busy and terrified of the incoming Trump presidency to handle classified docs with care. In other words, in the legal manner. And he just plump forgot about it these past several years. As Red State points out, weren't we assured CNN is getting back to hard news and unbiased reporting? So why is CNN trying to justify a sitting president doing illegal things? Miss Pelosi? 

We believe in the rule of law, and that's what our country is about, and no person is above the law, not even the president of the United States. And because no one is above the law, AG Merrick Garland appoints a special counsel to investigate Biden's alleged mishandling of classified docs. But wait, the first Biden classifieds were discovered November second, and Garland appointed a special counsel to investigate Trump two weeks later. That's strange. Why did he wait until now? Senator John Kennedy has questions. 

Aside from the obvious that, the Justice Department is investigating President Trump for something that President Biden himself may have done, There are a lot of other intriguing questions for the inspector general. Number one, was there a cover up? The powers that be have known about all this since November second. I'm not surprised that the attorney general has appointed a special counsel. I'm not sure he had a choice. 

Who is this attorney appointed to investigate Biden, handpicked by the same guy who authorized raid on Trump's home, Robert Herr. Where have we heard that name before? Oh, he was a former partner of corrupt Christopher Wray and Rod Rosenstein's top lieutenant. Hash Patel says her is a government gangster involved in the Trump Russia collusion lie and actively suppressed a memo he and Devin Nunes released exposing the hoax. He is the same guy who vetted retired British spy Christopher Steele, a disgraced spy who was fired by the FBI and hired actual Russian spies on behalf of Hillary Clinton's campaign to make information up on Trump according to PJ Media. 

What's even more shocking, not really, is we haven't seen any investigation leaks in this case. We you watched them leak photos of sitting out files of president Trump. Where's the photos of president Biden's documents? Where are those photos at? He knowingly knew this happened going into election, going into interviews. This is what makes America not trust their government. You cannot have one form of law because somebody philosophically has a different opinion than you, and you can't use the justice department to go after people that are politically different as well. Speaking of leaks, the Twitter files keep dripping out the depravity of our government 

whether or not the major networks report on the dumps. Another Matt Taibbi thread provides further evidence that Twitter was aware that claims of Russian bots on the platform made by Democrats and the media were wildly exaggerated or outright fabrications. Nevertheless, Twitter continued to indulge the Democrat and mainstream media push conspiracy theory in public according to Breitbart. And earlier this week, Musk tweets some conspiracies gate. In Alex Berenson's thread, he exposes how Scott Gottlieb, a top Pfizer board member, 

used the same Twitter lobbyist as the White House to suppress debate on COVID vaccines, including from a fellow head of the FTA. We learned actual doctors sharing verifiable data were suppressed if it caused jab hesitancy. Well, fake doctors, yes, fake, flourished. Deplatformed dissenters are taking legal action against legacy media for being complicit. Robert f Kennedy junior of Children's Health Defense, trial site news, Gateway Punnett, and others have filed a lawsuit targeting the Trusted News Initiative, 

a partnership between the media giants and big tech companies. It says members of TNI, like WAPO, WAPO, the AP, BBC, and more engaged in a group boycott against small independent news publishers by denying them access to Internet platforms they need to compete and even survive in the online news market. Their definition of misinformation hasn't withheld the test of time and accuses TNI of violating the first amendment in antitrust laws. Meanwhile, legacy media reports on another trove of coincidental deaths, particularly in young men or athletes. 

An eighteen year old rugby league star, a twenty year old college tennis player, a twenty one year old football playing Air Force cadet. Red Voice Media has forty examples of sudden collapses since January of twenty twenty one. One. Public schools start screening athletes for heart problems while pretending this is normal according to the Liberty Daily. The death of Lisa Marie Presley drew speculation, but Snopes is quick to shut that down without any actual investigation. Legacy media demands you be content with cause unknown or any other possible reason for the coincidence 

epidemic. Perhaps traffic noise, air pollution, hot weather, cold weather, or humid weather. Meanwhile This and we are just getting word of this now. Regarding the COVID vaccine. The CDC is now saying that there has been enough cases of people who have had the vaccine, received the vaccine, 

and then suffered a stroke. The agency will now be investigating any potential links between the shots and strokes in some of those patients. So the CDC is going to essentially investigate itself. Cool. A new way to attack for the governor, Ron DeSantis, assigned to cover the reelection campaign of governor Ron DeSantis of Florida. Miles Cohen, a young ABC News reporter, found himself stymied. The governor would not grant him an interview. Aides barred him from some campaign events 

and interrupted his conversations with supporters. And they won't let the blatantly false don't say gay bill narrative die either. The Indianapolis star has joined a long line of news outlets that find it easier to frame Florida's parental rights and education act as the don't say gay bill than to read the three page piece of legislation according to Daily Signal. Again, in what world is it okay for a journalist to consistently refer to a bill by what critics call it than its actual name? A phrase that's not even in the bill. 

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to Trump. Yeah. But it turns out Trump didn't do the thing, and maybe Biden did. And it was just like them running cover, misdirection. Look over there as they stole the thing. Right? USAG, attorney general. And, wasn't he also the one that said, like, you know, white MAGA people, the greatest Oh, yeah. Terrorist threat in America or something like that. You know? Yeah. He's a big fan of freedom, Merrick Garland. Yeah. So that was interesting. America freedom. That caught my attention. And then that whole thing about Carter Page, who was 

thinking back to the research on this. This has been years now, but pretty sure it wasn't he the like, a CIA informant, and they weren't allowed to tell. And then they they blamed him for, like, some Russia thing, but it turned out there's nothing to it. But they lied to people for two years, so they think there was something. Right? That's still going on. Just like the PP Gate dossier and Christopher Steele and all the other stuff she's talking about. It's like they made up some lies in, like, twenty sixteen, and those lies are still being discussed six years later and haven't been put to rest yet, which brings me to my next point. 

All these, different ways that you can cause heart attacks and blood clots, whether it's global warming or, you know, having too much sunlight or breathing too much air or whatever they make up next. Right? I was trying to think, like, how does the audience discern whether or not these people are just incompetent and well meaning or if they're actually lying to you and they're evil? And I thought about it for a second. What I wrote down was the people who are well meaning and intending good for you, if you give them corrective information, they integrate it. And they say, Oh, I'm sorry. Didn't mean that. Here, let me fix that. These other people that we're talking about, 

they make excuses, They lie. They gaslight. They misdirect. They don't take any accountability for anything that's going on, and they keep telling us bullshit like, oh, sidewalks create heart attacks or whatever the new normal is this week that they're gonna try to convince people of. I don't think they're acting like innocent people who accidentally had a lab accident. They look more like people who are trying to do Grand Theft World. Every year they're proving my point. It's just winter vagina. I don't know if you've heard that one, but that was another excuse for I have seen some mental side effects of vaccines. 

I've seen some complex memes in the past couple days. There was one I posted to LD earlier. It's, like, four different memes into one, and the most recent being the MLK, but it goes back a couple years. And I said the history and evolution of what composites this meme is really fascinating. You could teach a college course on that. You could actually. Michelle Obama, she is a Corn pop was a bad man. Yeah. So anyway, there's a lot of shenanigans these people have been up to. That FAA outage, I don't think that's accidental. They just had those power outages a couple weeks ago. It's almost like maybe a foreign country, maybe a foreign It needs to be national group is testing America's defenses. Because if they take out our infrastructure, 

they The major list. Next class solar flare this week, some major, major solar activity. It could just be a cover for the fact that the sun is very variable right now as we reach solar maximum. I'm not saying it is street cred. So it's one of those things where it's one of those ways in which if there's variability with something that's outside of the control of humans, it might be a way for them to play cover of it. But that's only a potential hypothesis that very much could be. The two best hypotheses, it's variability due to, you know, plasma streams and, solar flares, CMEs that have been going wild over the past couple over the past two weeks. Is it similar to make Faraday cages, or what's our deal? There's not much that can be done if if some of the people pretending the future 

are right at all. But, nonetheless, I know there's been major, major solar activity. But on top of that, that's only one potential hypothesis. The second best or the next one that's just as reasonable is exactly what you're saying. Exactly. I just wanted to throw that in as a contending possibility is that there's major major solar activity happening currently that also could be for the reason for grounding the flights. But there's not substantial evidence one way or for against, but I think those are the two best hypotheses either solar activity and a cover up in regards to that. This actum like there was some, oh, incompetence or 

possibly some bad Well, they try they try to explain it like, oh, some guy tripped over a plug and took out Right. But but they really they say that he updated some file and it took down the whole thing. Thank you. That is the single the single point of failure ness of it Or it could be, you know, they do, penetration testing, nations on nations. There is a there is a nation that spies aggressively against this country. This might even go back to shenanigans like nineeleven and the people that participated in such things who still probably have a will to power. Just go ahead. Cyber Polygon used mostly Russian firms 

as far as their hacking simulation, when it comes to setting up the infrastructure. Who the patsies will be? So, yeah, they set up the path. You got it. So, I mean, that's very that's just as reasonable as a hypothesis as solar variability. So but both have to be considered. Right on. Well, we'll just look if other infrastructure things start, you know, going on and off. And we start seeing patterns to it, and we match it up to these people who have an agenda and say they wanna turn these things off for us, right? Because no planes flying means less carbon output, whatever there's 

made up cockamamie system is that they call a great reset. You know, someone I apologize if Watson covered this. Someone flew a private jet twenty one kilometers just to go to Davis last year. Twenty one kilometers. Couldn't take a car ride or train. You don't want to be picked up at the train station when you got a jet. He probably even had his jet at the place in Davos. It was like, move it to another airport. I'll take the Bentley over there. That way, I can fly in. 

I remember the time there was, like, this global warming conference, like a Greta conference. Right? And they had, like, the performer known as will. I. Am. And he flew in on, like, some giant helicopter that that I think he owned that could seat thirty people, but he had like three or four people or whatever. Like it was just idiotic for him to come in with using that much petrol, petrol, gas, diesel, airline fuel, whatever you want to call it, aviation fuel, kerosene. And then other people like have to walk to work and ride bikes and they got these battery powered bikes that you're supposed to use. 

And, wow, let's all share things during a time of pandemic. That's going to go real well. We don't use our hands on the on the grips or anything. Oh my god. It's for your good, all this irrationality and nonsense and nineteen eighty four isms. It's like effective altruism, but the nineteen eighties version this. It's like ineffective altruism, actually. You know, there's a whole When they say they're gonna do good and they fuck you up, that's not Then hide behind It's an ineffective ethic. We discussed that earlier today. Yeah. That's ultimately what it is. Yeah. 

But, we could talk all night about effective altruism and all that sort of nonsense. But there's a whole subsection tonight on the show, but we won't get to it. But just getting into more details about how the rush gate, more and more has been proven that we already know is a hoax, but more and more has been found about how it's a hoax actually How they did it. More evidence exactly. Well, CIA blocked release of key Russiagate documents. You know, there's a whole bunch of different sort of stories talking about a key Russiagate talking points collapse In regards to I guess, that can probably comes on Twitter files. I don't know where that's coming from. But Jimmy Doerr and a couple other commentators, I think redacted talked about it and a whole bunch of different people 

were sort of When you follow back, what's the history and evolution of the CIA and who pulls its strings, then you can follow if the CIA is doing something, then you know the people above them that created and use the CIA as their agency are up to something too because those strings connect. They connect transatlantically. So that's gonna be interesting too. Alright. Before we go to Russell Brand and money we can't follow because that's an interesting topic, I wanna show off something that we're all proud of. I I got a browser here. This is, Jay Dyer's much vaunted, much sought after 

Philosophy one hundred and one. Now, he just got this page up. We are just testing it out. You guys are some of the first people in the world to see it. I want to say, for my part, it's not philosophy one hundred and one. I think this is a mistitling. I really think is it as like philosophy unleashed. Because a philosophy one zero one course, they give you kinda some useless information that you can't make sense of. Jay actually lays out over twelve weeks, dozens and dozens of hours put into just the presentation of this, let alone the hundreds and thousands of hours of research that it takes to have a coherent 

evolution and history of the origins of philosophy, the uses of philosophy, the different ways to look at it over time, and how that has, been brought about to what we have today, which is almost an absence of philosophy on the objective logic and reason side in an overabundance of woke philosophy that is irrational, is made up day by day as people are like, I think we should bring racism back, and then here's a justification, and then it gets wokified and spread out. And then all of a sudden, you 

have a bunch of communist, socialist ideas where you become the property in action. You need to be able to stand your own ground. It helps to have a foundation in philosophy because it's a method to find truth. When you get down to it, philosophy is there because you love truth enough to go and learn how to find it because it's valuable. So if you're interested in things like that, there is, the landing page. We'll link it up in the notes. It is, a longer one, so we'll get a shorter, URL for this. I'm sure Jay has a link on his page. I just wanted to show it off. Now you know it exists. You can go look for it and see why this is not your father's philosophy, 

right? So, well done. I'm proud of everyone who helped to produce and edit the course and, of course, Jay did a flawless job in presenting the course over those twelve weeks. And, he's a juggernaut. He's another guy just like John Bush, in action all the time, doing something productive, like very little wasted time in his week. Those one hundred and sixty eight hours are being harnessed very well. Alright. So now let's go to Russell Brand for this this story. It keeps getting weirder and weirder every week, but I'm just saying Grand Theft World was like me standing here with my my baseball glove, and the the New World Order comes out every week, and they play catch. They throw me a ton of stories. There's all these sort of things going on where they're just proving the point that for the past fifteen, sixteen years, I've been trying to articulate using references. Now they're just coming out and saying the quiet part out loud. So I think everybody needs to listen and then share these types of clips with your friends. And if you think the show is too long, feel free to learn how to do some video editing, make your clips. We also have people on our side that take shorter clips and distribute about to other websites, but we always need more help with that. So if you, the audience, wanna take that on, 

yay freedom. Alright. Let's go to Russell Brand, Rusty Rockets on Twitter, and let's check out, his recent report on this money we can't follow. Maybe we should try a little harder. Stay free. See it first on Rumble. It's not often in this crazy world, is it, Gal, that we get to bring people some good news with that we get to welcome a genuine hero, someone who is a crusader for truth, justice, and the American mind, not Superman or Batman or any of those people. In this case, it's Adam Andrzejewski, founder of Open the Books, who are an organization that fold fifty thousand freedom of information requests last year to help people find the truth. You know, when stuff's classified and you simply can't find out the truth because the truth is not expedient to the interest of the powerful, Well, Adam is a person that ensures as best he can that we have access to the truth, which means, of course, he was canceled by Forbes for, making revelations about Anthony Fauci who you might have heard of. He's a person who works for the government. He's got a lot of knowledge around medicine. 

Adam, thanks for joining us. Well, mister Brand, thanks for having me on. It's great to be here. I really like you already. I don't get to meet I don't get to meet very many Hollywood, stars. You know, I'm from the Midwest. I'm from Illinois. It's the Super Bowl of corruption. So we meet a lot of corrupt politicians. We do our best to hold them accountable to hard facts, but it is great to be on your program here today. Thank you for acknowledging me as a genuine star. Now, Fauci was the highest paid government employee in twenty nineteen. So well done, Fauci family. We are of of the understanding that his daughter used to work at Twitter. We're waiting for confirmation of that. 

Musk, Elon Musk, I mean, suggested that because you know Musk is. It's never another Musk, is it? Like, not a Musketeer. No. Musk or Musketeer. Musk suggested Fauci should be prosecuted. What do you think, and why do you think Elon Musk said that? And, you know, come on, mate. Well, Elon Musk has been throwing some bombs lately. That's for sure. I think one thing about open the books dot com that I just wanna lay on the table right away, we're all about hard facts, no spin. Mister Brandt, think of us as a public information act machine, and you've got millions of your awakening wonders in your audience, and you're on a discovery voyage with them. We want to provide the fuel. So like you said in the introduction last year, we filed fifty thousand 

Freedom of Information Act request to capture over the course of the last two years, nineteen trillion dollars worth of federal, state, and local spending. And we do this primarily so regular people can follow the money. So we, ourselves, your listening audience, so we can hold the powerful accountable, Republicans, Democrats, and unelected bureaucrats. So I think there's, like, three keys to the public health space in America. Number one, the first key is is that it has a culture of secrecy. And today, we'll talk about the secret revenue stream that our auditors at open the books dot com uncovered one point four billion dollars 

of these secret hidden third party royalties over at the National Institutes of Health. The second key is just what you put on the table with the Fauci's. So if if US public health was a game show, if it was a reality TV show, I think we'd have to call it Meet the Fauci's. Doctor Anthony Fauci and his wife, Christine Grady, most people don't know that she was the chief is the chief bioethicist at the National Institutes of Health. Here's the third key. It is a target rich environment 

for waste, fraud, corruption, and taxpayer abuse across the entire public health complex. And today, we've got some ridiculous examples of just how bad it is. My god. You're brilliant. I see. We should have you on every week, every day, really. It should be me. Just come here and stay out. Yeah. Adam now. Adam might surprise me. Well, he will surprise me with seven facts. He just hit me so hard with so many facts. Alright, mate. So how come you got kicked out of Forbes magazine after eight years? And, what how come people at the National Institute of Health, will get in touch with you to shut you down? Is it because you were revealing information that was not helpful to the interest of the powerful? 

That's true. So Forbes didn't want anything to do with our oversight of doctor Anthony Fauci. So I was, you know, Forbes treated me well for eight years until I started writing about Fauci. I wrote three columns over the span of three weeks, and those are the last columns I ever wrote at Forbes. So, you know, I was there eight years. I put up two hundred and six investigations for about twenty million page views. These columns were very popular. And as a testament to the quality of the work, Forbes has left my author archive live. Extraordinary, 

mate, that that has happened. What I suppose that I want to understand, mate, is that, can you just tell me a little more about the the NIH's thirty billion government grants and the fifty six thousand recipients and the way that these royalties, operate and how they are distinct from, I don't know, bribes? Well, mister Renick, during the pandemic, the American people, we kinda got the sense, the feeling that big government was very close to big pharma. And because of our work at open the books dot com, now we know just how close they are. 

NIH, the National Institutes of Health, is actually a revolving door. Every year, they dole out about thirty two billion dollars worth of grants to about fifty four thousand health care entities across the United States. Think pharmaceutical companies, universities, research outfits, the entire public health complex that buys you a lot of friends, that buys you a lot of allies. And now because of our federal our Freedom of Information Act request followed by our federal lawsuit to enforce it, We now know coming back to the other door over the course of the past twelve years has been one point four billion dollars worth of these hidden secret third party royalties 

that enriched the agency, its leadership, and twenty four hundred of its scientists. So I suppose this is comparable in a sense to the FDA's ability to regulate the pharmaceutical companies that it is funded by or at least in large part funded by. That when there are so many financial incentives, it's difficult to maintain the idea that these organizations the that these information that these organizations 

are interlocked so they have the same agenda. And when that is coupled with the, the the, consequences that you suffered for your free columns. It seems like information is being controlled. It appears like, it appears that people are being financially rewarded. It starts to sound very much like corruption. Can I ask you, Adam? I I would start calling you mister because I'm loving this Midwest Manners thing. I'm loving it. Like, it's getting a lot of love in the chat, let me tell you. I hear that Moderna plans to, a four thousand percent markup for its COVID vaccines. That seems a bit expensive. What do you think about it? 

So So Moderna is actually suing the National Institutes of Health. You know, the National Institutes of Health, I guess, are is suing Moderna because Moderna left three NIH scientists off of its patent application. So this is a big dispute between the health care agency and Moderna. I read the twenty twenty one annual report at NIH, and they profited big time through the license to Pfizer for the COVID vaccine. Their third party royalties in twenty twenty one doubled to a hundred and twenty seven million dollars in twenty twenty one because, 

Pfizer licensed COVID vaccine technologies invented at the taxpayer paid labs over at the National Institutes of Health. NIH is claiming that Moderna actually, did not recognize that technology, and they're suing them to get on the patents at Moderna. So stay tuned. This is gonna be a big legal fight unless they can work it out. And it doesn't look like they can work it out because this has been going on for the last two years. Now look and this is why we need transparency on that third party paid royalty database. 

Incredibly, although NIH produced three thousand pages of information, they redacted key information that we need to follow the money. We still can't follow the money. They redacted the name of the third party payer, so we don't know which pharmaceutical company actually paid the individual scientists. We don't know the amounts the individual scientists, like the leadership, like Fauci, like Collins, like twenty four hundred scientists received. And they also redacted and blacked out the inventions, the license numbers, and the patent numbers. 

Those scientists were paid by us, the American taxpayer. They invented these things and taxpayer funded labs. And NIH is redacting this. Yeah. I mean, it's redacted so much that if we didn't employ forensic data scientists, these disclosures would have been absolutely worthless. I dislike the paternalism inherent in these behaviors. Gareff, what do you think? I was gonna say, Fauci's denied so far, hasn't he, about these royalties? And I guess the reason that he's been able to deny them so far in congress to other, you know, other congressmen, other politicians is because of these redactions. 

And I just it's it's incredible, isn't it, that that these can still take place when we know now that there's a relationship where people like anti fatality are getting paid money from pharmaceutical companies, and we are not we are not being given the data on that. How does that happen in a in a in a world where questions can be asked in congress and yet these documents can still be redacted in the ways that they are? So we launched our report on the third party royalties in May, and that's when mister Brand did that great podcast, fifteen minutes on the situation, and it immediately led 

thirty six hours after our release to congressional hearings. A powerful hearing in house appropriations where the acting director Lawrence Tabak, he was there to get his budget from congress, but he had to face questions on the third party royalty report that we issued. And he admitted that, yes, every single one of those fifty six thousand payments over the course of the last twelve years has the appearance of a conflict of interest, and that's actually our position. Mister Brandt, you can doubt if I say something, but when the government official says that it's gotta be the truth. And so that's why, 

Congress, you know, in the hearings with Fauci, with US senator Rand Paul, he is saying that Congress wants to make sure that we get an unredacted database. And in two thousand and five, the Associated Press got an unredacted database. That was seventeen years ago, and they found that Fauci had burned down all the firewalls. He had received forty five thousand dollars worth of royalties for an AIDS therapeutic that he had invented. As the director of the agency, he had invested 

another thirty six million dollars of taxpayer money to enhance his invention. And he once this was exposed, he said he would donate his royalties to charity. His deputy director Clifford Lane said he wouldn't he wouldn't donate his forty five thousand dollars of royalties to charity. He was going to keep it. So look, that's just one instance, one one example of the last time when we were able to follow the money. We can't follow the money now, and we need congressional action. Danyor Angievsky, 

I could see why they have to tightly control the narrative when so much of the information that's revealed through your intrepid research and tenacity is so detrimental to the version of reality that they would have us believe. When I think of the way that Fauci has been celebrated, lauded, presented as a countercultural figure almost, as a truth teller, as a legitimate scientist and doctor, that that is deeply at odds with many of these revelations. 

I wonder if you can take a a little deeper, monsieur into, the nature of these COVID aid programs, the three point six billion COVID stimulant payments, where some of those payments ended up. So the COVID aid, the COVID aid bills that passed through congress very quickly, they had the law of unintended consequences, mister Rand. They were basically a license to steal from the American taxpayer. It is the largest public fraud in the history of the country 

on what was stolen from our unemployment insurance when the when Fauci and the politicians locked down the economy, it threw forty million people out of a job at the peak of the pandemic. Obviously, these people had real needs. Congress authorized eight hundred billion dollars worth of unemployment aid. And now we know up to half of it, four hundred billion dollars was stolen by criminals, con artists, and crime syndicates from around the world. Mister Rand, it is an open question 

as to whether the Chinese military and Russian military hackers stole enough of our unemployment aid that was supposed to help people who had real needs, obviously. The Chinese military budget is two hundred billion dollars. The Russian military budget is eighty billion dollars. It is an open question as to whether those countries stole enough of our unemployment insurance to cover a full year of their military budgets. Mister Angievski, with US debt as high as it currently is, why is why are US taxpayer dollars being wasted 

on packages such as those as you have outlined and a ludicrous a ludicrous project to blow lizards off of trees? Is that real, or is this something I've dreamt? No. I mean, Harvard University, they don't need taxpayer help. They have a forty billion dollar endowment. They got seventy five thousand dollars for a project to go find a hundred lizards and buy leaf blowers and literally blow them off the trees to see how they reacted during hurricane winds. If that project had merit, Harvard could have funded it themselves. 

They need to lighten the load on the American taxpayer. You know, over the course of the last couple of years, here are just some examples of what we found worth of taxpayer abuse. We found that NASA received a million dollar grant to prepare the nation's religions for the discovery of extraterrestrial life. We found that Cornell University, Ivy League University, they received a million dollar grant on a study where it hurts the most to be stung by a bee. And my favorite study comes out of health and human services. 

They gave one point four million dollars to California it's for education, and they can probably teach the class. Mister Adam Angievsky, sir, you claimed to be from open the books dot com, and yet I challenge you to open a book at random from behind you and read a passage purely at chance to see what it says. Will you do it, mister Adam Andrzejewski? 

Uh-huh. So this book, you asked about National Debt. This book was written by the legendary US senator from Oklahoma, doctor Tom Coburn. It's called the debt bomb. And Coburn, after he left the US senate, he term limited himself. He was the honorary chairman of our organization at open the books dot com. So let's just we'll open it. We'll read a sentence. It's it goes to military health care, hundred and fifteen billion dollars, I guess. And the last area of the budget Washington politicians want to reform is veterans health care. And Coburn basically probably made the argument that that, like everything else, needs reform as well. Mister Andrzejewski, 

something must be done. All of you should find out more at open the books dot com about, Adam Andrzejewski's fantastic work and endless endeavors to expose the truth to us and to expose those who would conceal the truth to true justice. Thank you so much. I hope we'll see you again soon. It's such a joy to speak with you. Thank you, mister Brand. Alright. So there's also a lot covered there. Let's, rewind for a second. Four hundred billion dollars, thousand number, forty million jobs lost. Thirty two billion is another number with fifty four going to fifty four thousand different, 

pharmaceutical or the, you know, biodevelopment agencies. Brought to you by the people who just created forty million new felons. Like, they're they they create jobs in a weird way. Like, you know, you know what I'm saying? It's like they're going about this in a weird way. I'm not not too sure about their motives. Maybe we should question these characters. So, yeah, there's man, there's BARDA, there's DARPA, There's Gottlieb. I don't even think Gottlieb was mentioned in there, but that was another story this week that intertwines with all this. The guy that was for the government telling you stuff now works for Pfizer and he was working for Pfizer the whole time. Yeah. So it's not a part of the Twitter files. The Twitter files are also 

dropping right now, dropping over there like boom, boom, boom. I don't know. Like, he was poo pooing people, talking bad about the vaccine, and then there's all this revelation that came out of the state. Doctors, but that or bots. You know. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting, to see this all break in kind of real time. But, we got another clip. Let's play that redacted clip, LD, that I talked to you about in the green room before the show, and then we'll, we'll be able to bring on our guest probably right after that clip. He'll be all ready. And then we're gonna get into the, and I'll foreshadow it because I got a nice little build up because there is continuity between this news story you just saw, the one you're about to see, and tonight's special guest, a whistleblower 

like me. Let's talk about Fauci. So one day before president Trump took office, doctor Fauci gave a speech warning all of us that, Trump would have to deal with a cataclysmic pandemic. He this was the day before Trump was sworn into office. He was warning us that the greatest crime in world history was about to happen. We should have been paying attention, but we weren't. Watch. Is that there is no question 

that there will be a challenge to the coming administration in the arena of infectious diseases, both chronic infectious diseases in the sense of already ongoing disease, and we have certainly a large burden of that. But also there will be a surprise outbreak. Oh, there will be a a surprise. Surprise. There will be a surprise outbreak. He's not like he's not like saying, some data shows that this is possible. Some data concludes that we may see this. It it seems highly likely. No. He says will. And you see in his face, like, you know, that's a guy that knows, like, this is about to happen. Right? He he's, like, convicted. Like, this will happen. Yeah. He's This is going to happen. 

So he knew what was about to come. Right? After all the funding that he provided in Wuhan, like, he knew about all of this. He tried to cover it up, lie about it, lied to Congress about it, if you remember this. We I I I don't know how many times I can say it, madam chair. We did not fund gain of function research to be conducted in the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Oh, yeah. That was a lie. Right? Because when we walked it back, we knew exactly what happened. He did There was funding of that, and had to walk that back. Well, Twitter is about to drop the Fauci files. 

Right? And that's why the mainstream media is helping to mount a Fauci charm offensive. Look. He was he's been retired for a week. He his last day on the office was what? December thirtieth. Right? December thirtieth was his last day. So he's been gone for seven six, seven days, and he's already back on television. He's already back. CBS drags him out to do a whole big interview with him, ahead of the release of the Fauci files, and the whole thing was like a tee up for him, to make him look good, help him out as much as possible. 

Fauci is out trying to discredit the Fauci files before they're even released. So here he is answering, like, what does Elon Musk have on you on CBS? Watch. Another headline I saw this week. Elon Musk says he'll release Fauci files on Twitter this week. That story published January third. We are recording this. Let me double check my watch. January fifth. What are your concerns, if any, about the Fauci files on Twitter? Well, a, no concerns. And b, I have no idea what he's talking about. 

I mean, there's a lot of misinformation, conspiracy theories, disinformation going on. And how dare I Musk also said that you should be prosecuted. Yeah. Do you know what he's talking about there? I don't have a major, I don't have a clue of what he's talking about. Well, as near as I can tell, doctor Fauci, it is about the idea that the National Institutes of Health funded gain of function research, some of that at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, and that some believe is responsible for Right. COVID. Well, if you look at the first of all, collaborative 

research internationally has been something that has been extremely beneficial to society in general. The reason a very small grant, about a hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year, was given to the Chinese, which, as as a matter of fact, resulted in research that was Oh, but I thought you just told us in front of Congress that you that there was no funding. There was no funding at all. So you have no idea at all, what Elon Musk might have in the Fauci files? 

We don't know. We're getting a teaser of what the Fauci files could portend, just now, and then the latest batch of Twitter files just released about an hour ago from Alex Berenson. Now you remember Alex Berenson who was a vehement, like, outspoken against what was unfolding with COVID, was banned from Twitter Mhmm. Under the previous regime. He's back. He's got his first new Twitter files report out now. And, specifically, it's about how Pfizer was lobbying in the same style as the White House, to suppress information about the mRNA shot. Right. We will go over it in-depth because it launched too close to the start of this show. 

But if this is anything like, you know it does not mention Fauci. It does not mention the Fauci's Institute of Health, so we don't know, if this is it or if there's more to come. Yeah. It does mention Well, I guess, doctor Scott Gottlieb does. But anyway, go ahead. Well, I was just gonna say I I tweeted out that doctor Fauci was one hundred percent correct with what he was saying in that about the disinformation. The only thing is he's he's saying the wrong side is responsible for it. Right. Yeah. I I mean, he's very smug in the way he sort of shrugs it off. Like, I don't know. I did nothing wrong. I've never said anything that was offensive ever. 

He certainly lacks humility considering what the entire planet has gone through. Right. Well, I don't think science can be humble. Do you know what I mean? I think it's impossible for science to be humble because he is science. He is science. Okay. Well, watch this. So here is, major Garrett tees up a question for him on myocarditis. So this, you know, again, he give he like lays this out here for him, like on a silver platter. What I wanna play this and get your guys' thought on it. Watch. And in some of these instances, as you well know, doctor Fauci, there is some shred of 

evidence myocarditis was related to vaccines. It is a heart issue. I'm not a doctor. You are. That's a shred Right. Of evidence. A very small shred. Right? What and and explain how then this can get conflated. Of course. In a very, very rare case, some of the mRNA vaccines can cause a self limiting, almost invariably benign inflammatory response in the heart, which generally resolves in a very short 

period of time. It is very, very rare. When you compare that with the negative effects on the heart by myocarditis or pericarditis which is inflammation of either the heart muscle or the covering of the heart and heart failure and heart medical problems. Overwhelmingly, COVID itself causes that in a dramatically higher rate than the relatively benign mild myocarditis 

that you might have with a vaccine, which is very, very rare. Oh. Okay. Is that right? But we can now set I mean, how can I say this? Because the vaccine, as it relates to contracting COVID you know you know what I'm trying to say because we're on YouTube. I'm I wanna say, like, the a way to say it is, like, the word breakthrough. It's like the the princess bride. You keep using that word breakthrough case, but I don't think it means what you think it means because they're trying to say the same thing. Like, it was a breakthrough case with the vaccines Right. And now it's another now it's a breakthrough case if it's myocarditis. 

Right. And the testing the the PRR test that we went through in detail last week, you can find that on Rumble because that was also data that is not welcome on certain platforms that we stream on. And we just went through CDC data that showed that they knew that the risk of myocarditis was actually not minor. It had a ratio that we we go over that they were looking for anything. Why are you doing this? You don't want me to say these things? No. I do. I'm just gonna say, like but, yes, I'm pointing to what's doctor Peter McCullough in this next thing. If you wanna go to it, you can. No. You go to it. Sorry. 

So, someone's wound a little. I'm not wound up. But when I do this pointing so you can talk to me, like, I'm saying something wrong. So No. You're saying exactly what Peter McCullough is saying here. So I was gonna say, if you wanna go to it, feel free to go to it. Doctor Peter McCullough out today with this article on post injection myocarditis. So here it is. If you can take a look at this, explosive increase in cardiac symptoms after a second injection. So to your point, that's what my little hand gesture Okay. Is teeing it up for you. Like, I was like Major Garrett teeing it up for you, like, 

like like doctor Fauci, like, here you go, here you go. It's right here in front of you. Take it. Take it. It was like well, just as a as a quick aside, I have to I I have to say I love the I love the fact that when somebody's in the background doing hand gestures and the other person is like, I don't understand your secret hand gestures. Like, okay. I cannot play it cool. Like, this sucks. When a game's, like, going like this supposed to yell out. What is it what is it you want me to do? Or if he kicks me under the table sometimes winking at me. I I just can't. I can't keep going with it. What is it? It's not like Costanza. I have, like, a grapefruit in my eye, like, why are you winking at me? No. It's the grapefruit. I've been blinking all day. 

So doctor Peter McCullough out today with this article on the exact thing that we're just talking about, which is explosive increase in cardiac symptoms after the second injection. He said, I said on national TV throughout COVID nineteen vaccine campaign that no young person should receive this because the risks far outweigh the benefits. And a new published report where both cardiac symptoms and ECG changes were recorded after the first and second injections. The results are alarming. To your point, after the second injection of mRNA, seventeen percent 

of students reported cardiovascular symptoms. So that is not very rare, doctor Fauci. No. In fact, the CDC's own data had the PRR score of myocarditis at three point three one starting December of two thousand twenty when anything over two normally is cause for further research. You know, Philip just sent an article circulated in on our team, last week about the one of the first, like, real scientific articles about the causation or the link, the causal link between the COVID vaccine 

and myocarditis, but it's only recently that we got anything like this even though the CDC's own data shows that they were tracking this starting in December of twenty twenty. They knew. Yeah. Exactly. And so what is he scared of? What is he scared of here? The clear the clear suppression of Well, he's acting not scared. Well, it well, I I don't know. I think by going out and doing these interviews, clearly, this is a PR campaign. Like, he gets on with his favorite network, CBS. He's done so many interviews with Martha, whatever, Martha Raditz. It's you know? Right. And I highly object to the way that that journalist asks. Like, there seems to be a tiny 

shred, like, that's something that's on a plat platter thing. Myocarditis. Well, you can read up on it too. He's like, I'm not a doctor, so I'm not gonna do any journalist journalistic digging here. Right. People are saying it. It's like it's blowing in the wind. Right. You know, you can't you can't give him some hard data to react to No. Such as the one that we read that's all publicly available for all of us? I watched the whole hour long interview, and, a lot of people in the chat are saying, like, please, I could never watch an hour of that, of that little squeaky monkey. 

But I did, and it was awful. And major Garrett, like, he spends, like, the this first one minute of the interviews. Like, you know, doc, I gotta say, I was watching the NFL game, the Buffalo Bills game, and I just, you know, sometimes and then I just jumped over to Twitter to see what conspiracy theories would unfold right after he falls flat on the field. And it was only about twenty minutes or so before I started seeing all of the misinformation flowing in basically on on on What? We don't have any information. Right. We do not have information about that person's health. Right. So he he was walking in there with his bias, teeing it up for for Fauci. Here's my bias on this. Like, how do you handle all of this misinformation? You're such a god. Mhmm. You're so you're such an amazing person. Must be really hard to be you. 

So we knew in January we knew in January that the Biden administration was actively trying to silence people on social media. Anyone who this was before this was before we even knew about the pandemic, and this was January, a month and a half to two months before we even had widespread panic about it. We knew that there was clear suppression of early treatments that had already been proven to work. Those were being suppressed by the Biden administration. So maybe that's what he's scared of. The communication 

between the Biden administration, we saw a report today, that the Biden administration was actively trying to silence Tucker Carlson for, his aversion to the vaccines and talking about that early on. So the Biden administration was actively trying to censor Tucker Carlson on Facebook and block Facebook posts, from his show. So this is again, what will what will we see in these Fauci files? It's hard to say. We will be watching for them. We just got a super chat that says we shouldn't fight over Fauci. Like, this should not be the reason we have marital discord. 

What can you imagine people like, why'd you get a divorce? Fauci? Fauci? What? How did you get a divorce? Fauci. Oh my god. I wanna bring some up. I I I was I've been very active on Twitter since all this has been going down, and I saw an ad from HHS dot gov. And it says, even if your COVID symptoms are mild, talk to a doctor about treatment. We can do this. Get to the doctor, and it's the CDC. And I tweeted out how much of our money is the US government spending to be the marketing arm of big pharma? And I asked Elon Musk, maybe we should do a poll and see how many of us want to fund propaganda. Because it's like they're spending our money to keep advertising this saying the opposite of what all the data is showing. Mhmm. And and it's like this big huge campaign. And it's like 

Yeah. I mean, this is not gonna stop. Worldwide. This is happening worldwide. And we a little bit later in the show, when we move over to Rumble later tonight, we're gonna talk about what's going on in Australia and the government. They're spending money, spending taxpayer money, in the United States and in the UK, spending spending the people's money on these advertising campaigns. I mean, do you remember when they had Elmo on Sesame Street? Like the public broad public broadcast I guess it's public broadcasting. We're funded in part by, right? By taxpayers to to have Elmo, 

you know, on there, getting a getting a shot. Bless you. Sound like Elmo. Sorry. We're gonna send Natalie a cough button so she could just step on that and mute when she has to sneeze on the show like that. It seems like, you know, maybe they should have the budget for that on their own. We'll see. Alright. So there's a lot to cover from that clip, and it's gonna connect into the next clip and the next, segment where we do the interview with Doctor. Huff. But prior to that, I wanted to mention real quick because you did hear the guest earlier, John Bush. He was at the workshop earlier today. And even a seasoned entrepreneur who's a high speed juggernaut like himself, he can gain value from just sharpening up. Let's do a little maintenance on the work, the mindset so we can get our goals straight for twenty twenty three. 

I know the workshop was a couple hours ago, but you guys still have a chance to get it before the price goes up and it gets offered to the market. So if you go to getautonomy. Info forwards I'm sorry. Sorry. Let's back up. Universityofreason dot I'm sorry. Let me do it again. I've been working too long. Universityofreason dot com slash mindset is the actual page. You guys are able to still click and you at the top of the page, it's got a headline, then there's a button, there's a button. So you click this button and you can still get 

the lecture and the goal setting workshop, not for three hundred, but you can get it for forty seven. I promise you, you are worth forty seven bucks and that what we presented today for four hours is going to be really useful to you in making twenty twenty three a better year than it was last year. We also, had some nice words from our friend Tom Woods, and I was hoping LD would play, the clip that you can also find here on the landing page right here. This, got featured on his podcast, so that's that's first for us. And, not lots of nice folks came over from there. So really appreciate that. 

Accomplish great things in twenty twenty three, but you can't do it if you haven't got your inner game right. Well, this very Sunday, January fifteenth twenty twenty three at noon eastern, Richard is holding the autonomy mindset event. Autonomy is his fantastic group, by the way, which I've spoken to before. And what an audience of action taking people who are committed to accomplishing great things. They're not defeatists who shoot down everything you suggest and think everything is doom and gloom. These are action oriented people, and it's a wonderful community to be a part of. And you can attend the autonomy mindset event for either zero dollars or forty seven dollars, your choice. During the free lecture, Richard's gonna unveil how to build an anti fragile infinite growth mindset. And then you can put this mindset to work right away with a powerful interactive goal setting workshop for just forty seven dollars. 

Everybody attending this workshop will have gotten there from a good podcast like this one. So it means these people kinda know where things are at. So remember, the lecture is free, plus you can turbo boost the experience if you like with that goal setting workshop for just forty seven dollars. So head over to tom woods dot com slash mindset, and you'll be well on your way to an excellent new year. And if you heard that here, you can go to university of reason dot com forward slash mindset, and then we'll know who, 

whose whose audience takes action. But if you don't already have good goals for this year, consider it because having no option is not as good as having an option that you can make a second draft from. And with that, now also, Clayton Morris was also he dropped that take it take it. What is he been listening to Grand Theft World? It almost sounds like he wants to yeah. He almost sounds like he wants to have a soundboard and get down in the mud with that. So I don't know. Maybe. We'll we'll see. Maybe we'll, invite Clayton on as a a guest in the future. Also, they accurately referred to this as the biggest crime in history, 

and we're we're gonna breach that topic. If I push this button, the biggest lie in history is about the biggest crime in history. So we're gonna learn about that in a couple minutes. But first, we still have this clip over on the Twitter that I saw doctor Robert Malone, one of the creators of the mRNA technology that so many people involuntarily, uninformedly got jabbed up with. He's bringing this clip from, over over in Asia, and it looks like, more of a worldwide phenomenon that's not just limited to one country. So let's go ahead and check out this clip together. I haven't seen it yet but it is, something he just posted on the Twitter. So let's check it out. 

In spite of the unprecedented support that has been given to COVID nineteen messenger RNA vaccination, that is actually comparable to any support given to any pharmaceutical agent in human history. We are still hearing sounds of wisdom coming from different parts of the planet. Actually, calling for, or questioning the scientific foundation and, safety of the messenger RNA vaccination. If we go back to April nineteen forty eight where the WHO has been established and review 

the main theme of, establishment of this, international organization, we can see clearly that the, psychosological well-being of, human species is the major priority and, improving quality of life for for human being is actually a critical issue. And in spite of, what we are hearing from the media, but going to our, scientific foundation and questioning the, complications of the messenger RNA vaccination. I'm referring mainly to, other cardiologist to the cardiovascular complications, 

the, juvenile myocarditis and pericarditis, and, the what we what we think seriously increased level of, sudden cardiac death. I think, anything related to the, products, should be reviewed critically and in, view of the complications of this type of vaccination. I think this type of vaccine should be suspended until it is fully investigated. Our global consciousness should, rise up and, wisdom 

at the end should prevail. Now it's interesting because on one hand, if this pangolin and this bat got together and created this obnoxious thing that created the COVID pandemic then the mRNA solution and there being side effects, well maybe that's the risk of fighting a pandemic. However, if this thing over here is a chimera and they made this thing over here that's mRNA injections for people that's balerophon 

and they put those two things together knowing because they've tested it for years and years what the side effects might and can be, and there's documents for the past ten years all over the place on side effects of mRNA technology and they knew that ahead of time, then it looks more like a doctor Mengele experiment, the type that the Nazis carried out with Western bankers, City of London, New York City, Wall Street funding. And I'm not looking for that situation to be true. I don't want that to be going on in the world I live in right now. 

But there's a lot of evidence that's starting to point that way. And so getting to our guest tonight, we're going to have to talk about, you know, this mRNA technology, which Tony and I have been talking about on the show and breaking open and looking at all these studies and aerosolized mRNA and shedding and all these other things that come with a new technology in the barter clip and other groups seeking to have an emergency event that would bring these sort of things out to the public and make it necessary to bring this new mRNA technology off the bench and onto the field as the hero, the balerophon in the situation. 

Now seeing what we've seen for the past twenty minutes or half hour, what do you think, Tony, as far as, you know, Do we have enough evidence yet that this is on purpose or do we still think they're incompetent and if we just give them more tax dollars, they won't do these sort of things anymore? Or like how do you feel objectively as a logic teacher and somebody who tries to like leave the emotions out of it, let's deal with the evidence that exists? How much evidence is on the scale at this point in your observation? I mean, the evidence 

on the scale in regards to chimeric processes being utilized in a lab in Wuhan, China is overwhelming. Not just with the eco health alliance and the however, two hundred and fifty, three hundred and fifty thousand, whatever much money it was for that one grand. But then there's DARPA grants that have been alluded to by many different, researchers and journalists out there as well that have not really gained a lot of traction. But we'd what we do know is there's only so many, experts in this realm. She's usually Ralph Barrick. 

There's a couple other, doctors I can't think of off the top of my head, that also sort of correspond with this that worked alongside, for example, Peter Daszak, who I forget his official title, but it's a me go Pushed, Jeremy Farrar from the Wellstone Trust. But he's they aren't All these other people on the email trails. Right. And the other virologists and other epidemiologists. Anthony Zhang (3seven thirty seven): Who changed their position rapidly over four days without any new evidence to as soon as emails to inbox. There's a couple. We covered it so many times, but the names sort of eluded me out because it's, you know, it's just sort of No. It's alright. Because we have been talking about But I wanna make a big point. Go ahead. I wanna make a big point here. What we don't have any evidence for, unfortunately, 

is although all the circumstantial evidence is there to suggest that they have been obviously working on this is also Sherry Markinson's work. I think something I forget what's her name. Mark Markinson. She's a independent not an independent. She's a journalist that works, on a show. Sherry, I can is it acting? Maybe. Maybe I'm getting it wrong too. So I think we kinda got one of one of each right. One last one first name. It doesn't matter. She's a Australian journalist who exposed, like, some of the inner workings of the Wuhan Institute of Virology. 

You know, that the issue of, RA or RAT g thirteen, one of the analogs of sort of viruses, one of the genetic sequence analogs to another, coronavirus type of virus that was utilized in the chimeric processes. The air the, bats that were held at Wuhan and the humanized mice. But we don't have any evidence whatsoever, unfortunately. But it's okay. Let me just say this because before I get out of it by anyone. We have no evidence that it was released by 

intention or by accident. We don't have it. All we know is that there's all the conditions were there for them to do this process, this chimeric process where they combine they take humanized cell lines in mice, and they introduce different viruses. And through natural selection, these viruses recombine over and over and over again to find a pathway by which it could become infectious to that specific cell line or other cell lines, inside the the mouse that could also correspond to them in human cell lines, which is how it works. ACE two is one of the main cell lines, and that's the first pathway by which people are becoming infected, the ACE two pathway, particularly in the lungs, but it's also all over the body. 

So, unfortunately now does that mean we can't form a hypothesis that, you know, that there or at least a theory that could lead to a hypothesis that it's likely possible, reasonable to assume that this was intentionally done. Now in regards to having it be leaked on purpose or not, that I I would never be able to right now, there's just not enough evidence. We know that Chinese were under tremendous amounts of pressure. We know that, 

Anthony Fauci, the NIH, NIAID, the Milken Institute, all these various figures that we've been talking about, these institutions, they had they were under tremendous pressure because they were looking to modernize. We know that World Economic Forum and the WHO and the DAFAs well, DAFAs group, the World Economic Forum. They also wanted to get a certain plan of action in place to usher in a whole new sort of technocratic future for our world, vaccine passports, CBDCs. So there are so many different, you know, different disparate sort of goals and agendas that we're sort of aligning 

to one the or at least needing one catalyst. Different different goals, but they all needed or could utilize the this one catalyst that's in that ended up becoming this pathogen that was released on the world and caused, you know, an untold amounts of economic destruction as well as untold amounts of, suffering when it didn't need to be done And on Ongoing trauma for people who are still out there, like, I just you know, there's little kids out there on the ice learning how to skate with masks on. Yeah. No. I I was telling my girlfriend the other day. I was driving by and, you know, stop with the school bus comes forward. He lets out a kid and it's like gotta be seven or eight years old, still has a mask on. It's twenty twenty three. And the kid's got a mask. I'm like, how many I tried to look in the school bus and I was like, well, like, mostly, I think they all were forced to have masks on because it looked like they all had masks on. And I went back and told my girlfriend, I'm like, what is it? Like, it's twenty twenty three. And no one else, no adults are really wearing masks. I go out to the stores. I don't really see that meant there are some pure, but it's, it's pretty, you know, even now what channels to fear they watch. 

Exactly. But it's you know? And at this point, one could easily hypothesize that the vaccine has caused, tremendous amounts more physical damage than the actual initial virus, both the alpha delta strains, the omicron, and all the various strains that came after it. So New York Post was just saying how the new strain is, worse for the people who are vaccinated. So I'm not sure how that works or if that's part of the plan. Yeah. I've heard that too, which is very fascinating. But it also must be said that, right now, 

there's much more circumstantial evidence on the side of the fact that COVID nineteen originated in a lab, whether it was released on purpose or not, or by accident, we'll we may never know. But the fact that the preponderance of evidence is on the side of a lab leak. Though what has to be considered that there is still a very small possibility came from zoonotic origin origins? Unlikely. And if the evidence there's almost no evidence to support that whatsoever. I've released some debates on that, in regards to but that was, like, over a year ago when I was really interested on the topic with different, epidemiologists and, 

and neurologists argued this point. I think it was in Science Direct, one of, like, a science magazine in America where they argued this saying that, you know, the, if you're in cleavage site, for the most part, there are some bat species that do exhibit that, but it's very rare for it to be utilized as a function for this specific pathogen. And it doesn't have HIV spliced into it either. Right. That's yeah. There's so many problems with There's too many consequences Too many. Coincidences that start stacking up. Exactly. That's the problem. That's exactly the problem. So that's why it's and even those were all just for like, look. We have to remain open to the idea. This really was lab created. And since then, more and more and more evidence has continued to come out. I think Chris Martin has done a great job showing. It doesn't just affect ACE two. It's like, imagine having six different locks on your door with six different keys, and it has a key for every fucking lock on the door. So multiple cell lines in your body, whether it's ACE two or other types of cells, it can get into as though it was designed to get into. We've never seen another virus like that in history. Usually, a virus can get into one or two different types of, cell groups. This can get into over six different types. We've never seen that. So there's just so many anomalies with this. Like, you'd mentioned that the four amino acids part of GP one twenty, glycoprotein one twenty is part of the HIV 

pro, or HIV glycoprotein one twenty protein. So it's just uncanny, which we know you mentioned the redacted paper by those Indian researchers in what January of twenty twenty. So it just goes on and on. We could do the furin cleavage site. It's just over and over again, we're seeing, you know, the the CGG, CDG sort of code on this the strains and Stuff that wouldn't happen in nature, which is why they have BSL four labs. Exactly. That's that do I need to say more at this point? And then the fact that there was an actual intentional cover up whereby which we Yes. She even Early on. Like, they weren't even wondering or having meetings about it. They everyone was on the same sheet from the get go. They're like, look over there. There's a wet market. Those people eat crazy things over there, which is a racist idea in the first place. That's true. That's true. And a lot of them are referring 

to what markets in, like, Bali or Southeast Asia, not necessarily in China itself where some some unfortunate practice is still going, but not as much in China. Although, wet markets certainly do exist in China. I'm in a China. People are just glad to have food over there. The thing to there. The thing to consider is what markets have been around for centuries and centuries and centuries. You would expect a preponderance of pandemics to emerge from those types of areas or have been identified throughout history from various historians and court historians and all these sorts of ideas to to consider the possibility, 

especially as we moved into a scientific age, the modern age in the eighteenth century onwards, to not have consider that as any potential evidence for emerging path pathogenicity for, you know, from animals to humans or zoonotic transmission is very strange. But, one last point I wanna make is this isn't just me saying this. You pointed this out. The Fauci emails themselves, I think, Epoch Times and a couple other outlets, covered the fact that I can't remember the names. Anderson, I think, was one, but there's a couple one. They're all the all the ones. Christian Andersen? Or maybe 

maybe he's named after Hans Christian Andersen? Or maybe I'm thinking of books. There's a couple. And I remember covering the actual articles and going over the source material many almost a year ago now. What was fascinating is, all these He's the one that thought it was a lab leak early on and then changed his Sixty forty. Checked in with the paycheck masters. Yeah. Sixty forty, I think he said, and it looks as though it was part of a lab leak. And he says, you know, Fauci said and they're saying, no. We have to and this was just, I guess, some of the redacted lines have been removed, and this was covered a couple weeks ago by us on some clips that we played just to show, like, this is how 

I think Chris Martinson. It was Chris Martinson who actually went over some of the redacted lines are part of those emails, and we got to see just how fervent Fauci was in making sure that these virologists make you know, go along with his tune, which his tune was, you know, up I control the funding through the NIAID, which is why he turned down the appointment by Bush in, like, two thousand two, two thousand three, two thousand four, somewhere in there, to be the head of the NIH, which Francis Collins at the time, he's now retired, they're stepped down very curiously as all this started to unfold, right before this all started to unfold. But he was supposed to be Anthony Fauci's offer to be head of the NIH. He turned it down to be able to control the funding, the NIAID. And then two thousand five, two thousand six, whatever I forget his name. Why would you work as a capo when you're the godfather already? Right. And then you have the what Russell Brand was saying, like, going back to the mid two thousands, Fauci has connections with patents for AIDS drugs or an AS specific AIDS drug. He has patents with a whole number of other sort of therapeutics. 

But, of course, when he when there's what did he say? Thirty two billion that went out to fifty four thousand different this is just about COVID. But fifty four thousand different sort of biotech pharmaceutical development agencies, like, that's an insane amount of power of which the NIH controls a large majority of that. But the NIH, the portion that controls that is the NIAID. That's what Anthony Fauci was ahead of. He just happens to be in control of that. It just reminds you of what God has said. It's the science of leverage. He knew he had leverage and he could just, okay, he also sent Peter Dazak more money. He sent these urologists, like I said, sixty percent on the side of a lab leak. He bonused them out. You bonus them and all of a sudden they they write what was that paper? What was that journal? 

The Lancet published the DASA. The Lancet. Yeah. Yeah. This is early February twenty twenty. They published that paper. It said it's conspiracy theory to think it came from a lab and look over there at the web market. And then later, the FOIA came out, US Right to Know Organization published Dazsak's emails. And in there, you saw that he's the one that authored the paper and then got all these other people who depend on him for funding to sign it. Exactly. And then it was presented as science through the Lancet. People made policy. People were fired. People lost their jobs or opportunity because of what it said in there. And it was just as bullshit as when fifty former 

central intelligence directors and intelligence community heads say x y z about Hunter Biden's laptop. It's nothing to it. Right? Russia, Russia, Russia. Right. When really it's DARPA DARPA and Moderna Moderna Moderna working with DARPA DARPA and DARPA DARPA working with EcoHealth Alliance, and there's a whole lot of connectivity in the actual and factual documents that people shoulda, woulda, coulda looked at three years ago and reported on. And those of us who were doing that, you're getting censored. You're persona non grata. Oh, sorry. You got you you're blacklisted. You're shadow banned. Actually, I got to cut to, this. We have a live in live picture from Davos. 

There's Klaus initiating the gang. Just wanted to cut to that real quick so you guys had missed that because life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop on the phone, you just could get fucked up the ass by a cloud. Was it Leslie Nielsen like that scene from airplane where all they're lining up to get with the girl when they think the airplane is gonna go down here. Thank you, Sally Mayweather, for making us laugh on the Tweeter. See, sometimes it's just about the memes. Alright. Now back to a serious topic. Go. Go. Go. Go. Yeah. Yeah. Right here. I just wanted to give some context. Christian g Andersons. You're right. Christian Anderson was one of them. Yeah. I forget it. I think Gary, Robert f Gary, I think, was another one that received funding after the fact, after they came out and said, oh, no. This looks very suspicious. 

All of a sudden, they get nice grants from Anthony Pauschi alongside also Peter Daszak, his buddy, making sure he gets paid out because he's gonna be in a lot of hot water. This was the the famous paper back almost March seventeenth twenty twenty, the proximal origins of SARS CoV two that they all coauthored after sharing private emails together stating that, I don't know. This looks very suspicious, and we need to consider the hypothesis that, in fact, it did emerge from a laboratory and not from zoonotic origin. And Anthony Fauci, he couldn't have that. So They're like, this looks like just just like the things on the shelf that we're working on, and now it's out there. Is that ours? Oh, you're not allowed to talk about that. Okay. And then everyone shut up about it and then they all got bonus a lot of money. 

And then the the media was in lockstep, just like the Rockefeller document from twenty ten. Like, they're just in lockstep together. That's right. So you've got And then let's not forget about Moderna. Moderna in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, I think, had that patented, genetic, genetic sequence. Yes. Twenty six days ago, back twenty sixteen. I always get the dates screwed up in there. But twenty six that's even more ominous. Twenty sixteen after they start working with the DARPA grant. Yes. You just type in DARPA Moderna twenty thirteen. You'll find it. It's like it's not secret, everybody. They just want you to be done now. Moratorium, if I remember correctly. It's twenty sixteen to start working with the DARPA grant. The twenty seventeen is lifted. But by then, by by a minute, you know, through Santa Fe has already set up the the the French are involved in this too because they set up the entire 

of biology in the Bio milieu. And that's where you see, he was at the Rauschod banker, the the Macron Macron Macron is with, Klaus Schwab. He's with Xi Jinping. You can see him receiving these, like, medals together. We we Yeah. We show these, pictures of the time. They look just like this. Oh, the head of Sanofi or the head of Biomerium? Ceremony. This is the medal ceremony right now. You could just it's an incestuous Here's Macron. He's actually bending over on the left, I think. That's him bending over. He just got his medal. Yeah. Yeah. He just he's like full metal jacket right there. 

All right. Seriously though, on this topic of biowarfare in DARPA, this has been a project of the defense establishment, of the Anglo American establishment for a long time. Well, before DEFUSE was USAID's PREDICT program. So it goes like this. If we went in the timeline, around the turn of the century, two thousand, two thousand and one, Andrew Carnegie's, Medal of Honor for people who are the philanthropic eugenicists of the world. Ted Turner's there. Bill Gates is there. David Rockefeller's there. 

Tony Fauci's there. Tony Fauci's still around today. Two people from that picture, Bill Gates and Tony Fauci in twenty ten create the decade of the vaccine. Now, that sounds like they're prescient. They got a crystal ball. They know the next ten years is going to be really important for vaccines. So if you go to the Gates Foundation website and you search up that press release, you can read all about it. So now here's Tony Fauci, Bill Gates working together. Bill Gates working with CDC and WHO and all these other groups. Tony Fauci out there organizing gain of function, And it goes on with, 

what they had was there was a pandemic planning document just in case it happened, here's what the United States would do. Two thousand nine, it's very nebulous, very ambiguous. By twenty seventeen, it's that comes it's just bull's eye specific. In order to shut down the world, it's no longer ambiguous. It is you need a novel respiratory coronavirus that would have such and such characteristics. And then at the same time of that planning document, twenty seventeen, they have on the shelf between Moderna, DARPA, Pfizer, they have on the shelf a coronavirus 

that would not attach to humans until they did gain a function and humanized mice putting ACE two receptors in there to make sure it would transmit to humans. And then Nature and these other articles come out with, new bat virus shows potential for human emergence, but that's only the chimera that they've messed with through gain of function. In other words, nature would not do these horrific things to shut down the world, but they, in their labs, over years and lots of DARPA, millions of dollars going to EcoHealth, created 

just something like that was out there, and then they come in swooping with only one solution to that. No early treatments. No other drugs. We have to take this this vaccine, and there's a couple varieties. We're gonna test it out. There's gonna be the ad adenovirus over here. We'll do the mRNA over here, and they split up the test groups. Now there's also the control group of which people in this podcast audience, yay, freedom. We made it this far. We resisted a billion dollars in advertising. So we get to this point where we have the pandemic gets out. Whether it's purposeful or accidental, 

we don't know. We don't have that evidence so we can't make a claim there. However, I can notice that the thing that got out and the thing that they solved with their gene therapy is identical, custom fit to all these other agendas and goals that they had on the table at that point. And so for a pandemic to come along as a surprise that Fauci knew about beforehand and could call his shot like Babe Ruth and say there will be a surprise pandemic, that's like there will be a surprise party. It's like you're blowing the whole idea of what surprise means, bro. Right? This this whole thing that they had a reason. So they had means, motive, 

opportunity. We don't have a smoking gun yet, and Tony's right. Some of this evidence is circumstantial, but you don't get an accidental nature created pandemic upheaval and also be perfectly prepared to profit from it a thousand ways from Sunday without missing a beat while simultaneously censoring all dissent, firing doctors, creating joblessness, shutting down mom and pop shops so Jeff Bezos and other big brand World Economic Forum participants can stay open and reap the benefits. 

So it sounds like a cartel with a plan who has conspired against me, you, and everyone else we've ever met in our lives. And maybe our guest will be able to illustrate some of this for us tonight. Go ahead, Tony. No. This is said. Well said. I'll just leave with this because, I can't find the actual pictures themselves, but this will speak for itself. China reform friendship medal recipient, Helene Marieux, French medical entrepreneur. So Who helped to create the Wuhan lab? Yes. That's That's where you're yeah. Go ahead. French entrepreneur 

Helene Marieux was awarded the China Reform Friendship Medal for his support. Sorry. I went a little bit. For his support of China's reform and opening up program at the conference celebrating its fortieth anniversary on Tuesday, Mei Liu's family has a history of funding medical business and research. Forbes put net worth at, two point seven billion US dollars at December seventeenth. He He is currently the chairman of the Institute of Meliu, which was founded by his grandfather, Marcel Meliu, in nineteen eighteen ninety seven. About forty years ago, the Meliu knocked on China's knocked that China's door when the country decided to open up. Forty years ago. Forty years ago. 

What was going on, Ben? Curious. That was kinda like near the time of the trilateral commission. Yeah. Opening up, Asia to Western gangster cartels. Oh, shit. Knocking on China. Listen to this. H h h w Bush was the ambassador to China back then. He actually opened China's door, so to speak. China didn't mind. It allowed him to do it. They opened the door just like Klaus is opening Trudeau's door. That's right. That's right. That's where I was going. So here here he led the he led the institute in building firm cooperation in China fighting tobacco tuberculosis and other infectious disease. Here's an important line. He helped to build China's first biological lab of the top biosafety level p four in the city of Wuhan. 

And that wouldn't be the infamous now Wuhan Institute of Virology. And so he you can actually find pictures. We people have shared them many times on the Discord server, and now we're over on was the circle or whatever the community is called on the new platform. We have them preserved. I just can't quite find them right now. Maybe after we come back from the interview, I'll come and I'll I'll find those pictures. But you can see him receiving the medals, And you can see Klaus Schwab. You can see Zizin Peng. You can see, I guess, it's Ali Liu and a couple of other key figures, within that very powerful, 

political figures around the world that all seem to have been sort of ingratiated themselves with Xi, his regime, and, you know, in support of the continued Western development over there, particularly, obviously, and Alan made a use case with, biomedical development, bioresearch development. What was I gonna say? There was a phrase I came up with earlier this week for this, and I was like, we need a phrase for for what they're doing. And I think it was, 

oh, man. Did I not put the card in the stack? Oh, cyber biology. Right? We're gonna have to deal with cyber biology. That's a story we can cover later. But these people are definitely working with technology, not in our best interest or for the betterment of humankind, like trying to head off the virus at the past by making a virus super virulent and then trying to control something that you created that's outside of your control sounds stupid. And DARPA shouldn't have been giving tens and tens of millions of dollars of funding to such things nor should Fauci have been lying about such activities and helped us get to the, you 

know, get to the culprits who rob the bank a little bit sooner. But he is fully on board with helping their getaway if he's not one of them. We'll have to let the the courts adjudicate such things. But let's crack open this book because the truth about Wuhan is gonna go with, another book that's being released this week. Robert F Kennedy has a book, not on Fauci. He has one also coming out about the pandemic situation. And this book is titled, by Andrew Hough, doctor Andrew Hough, How I Uncover the Biggest Lie in History. And if we take a look inside, it's a shocking new insider information 

that shows what really happened in Wuhan. Now this is published by Skyhorse Publishing. They also publish, if I move out this way, that Alex Jones book over there on the Great Reset. You guys might want to check that out. Skyhorse Publishing, pretty ballsy to do this. And here's the relevant parts. First part of the book reads like a whistleblower who wrote a story. I've been there and done that. If you go listen to Project Constellation, that's like the first eight chapters of his book. But then we get to the good stuff, and I got good stuff in mind too. So it was a it was a really good opportunity to read this book. Understanding the risk of working at EcoHealth. 

So Peter Daszak is this character who runs EcoHealth Alliance and his name's all over these documents that we've looked at for the past couple of years, Fauci funding, DARPA funding, these sort of things. Well, Doctor. Hough worked directly for Peter Daszak for two years, twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen. And being there and helping them to fundraise and interact really gave him, like, a behind the scenes look of what's really going on. And it's like a big magic show over there where DAZDAQ's promising that they can predict pandemics and, prevent them, 

which is really good for the fundraising, but not so good for the thing that just ruined everyone's lives for the past three years. He gets into the gain of function. He gets into USAID, which is really CIA. There's a shorter way to spell that. The real COVID timeline, the truth about Wuhan, and the biggest intelligence failure since September eleventh and that's a bold claim, but he's right. He's right. And I've looked at the intelligence failures around nineeleven. They also are like custom fit. Oh, sorry about that, but no one got fired. Everyone got promoted, and all their agendas moved forward and everything and got funding for the next twenty years. But it's not on purpose, everybody. 

That's true. The biggest cover up I think is true. It's a good analogy actually to nine eleven. You really think about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Interesting parallels. Yeah. Alright. So I've got lots of tabs in this book. Let's just dig in real quick before we bring them on, and let's get a gander. Zoonotic, not interesting enough. Let's go to some of these red tab pages here where he's making point after point after point. His experience with Barrick. He's worked with Barrick. He's worked with a bat lady. He's worked with the bat man. He hasn't been to the bat caves, thankfully. 

But Barrick and the no see him technique, like, this he's got all this good stuff in here. Oh, well. We've talked about for that. Eric that Nick, let's go back real quick. Yeah. I was curious. The first highlight you have there, single biggest failure of the preprogram, which result in development of SARS CoV-two is the introduction of doctor Yisingly to doctor Ralph Barrick by Peter oh, Peter. So Peter Daszak is the one I introduced the two. Doctor Barrick. Yeah. Yeah. Very fascinating. So I'm gonna go next one. And UNC is a problematic you. See, obviously, u University of North Carolina, there's a shared campus with Duke. Obviously, they're very close. Uh-huh. And Duke is where, if I remember correctly, doctor Robert Califf, who's a member of the World Economic Forum, supportive of Klaus Schwab's initiative, 

is the one that came with real world data, real world evidence, removing of RCTs or traditional science, randomized controlled trials. So there's so many so much overlap with individuals around that. The shared campus is very troubling in regards to shared ideology and, also, you know, biomedical sort of, scientific research going on. So from our end of research, reading through this book, Tony has seen it. Ice too. Yeah. You know, all the all the usual stuff that we've looked at for the past couple years, but he's mixing in his experience with doctor Xi Zheng Li. I think the big US had to talk about yeah. USAID predict. We talked about it, but not that's probably the thing we didn't talk about as much as some of the other pieces of evidence and that's where he really starts. So I'm curious about that that element. 

CIA approaches Peter Daszak. Daszak says he wants to work with the CIA and that's about the time that, Huff starts encountering resistance and thinks about, Maybe I shouldn't be working at this place. Now luckily for Huff, he gets to be a whistleblower after the fact. He didn't have to lose his career. He looks back. He leaves in twenty sixteen. He gets, you know, professorship. Twenty nineteen pandemic goes out. He's like, that's awful. Coincidental. Digs in. Sure enough, there's there's more smoke and 

it's not something to dismiss as arbitrary. Also in two thousand and nine, the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan, China began collaborating with EcoHealth Alliance on the USAID emerging pandemic threat program on a project titled Predict. The Predict partners were USAID, UC Davis, Wildlife Conservation Society. Now you got to get the eco movements in there. EcoHouse Alliance, Meta biota, which is Hunter Biden's, funded from Rosemont, Seneca. Then we go there. Yeah. We covered that a couple weeks ago. We've covered that several different times. By identifying unknown viruses before they spilled over into humans to find them before they find us, Xi Jingli put it. Right? So the predict project was before. We are we're all familiar on this show with the DARPA preempt dumps from the past year and the drastic research group that went in and found all these DARPA documents related to EcoHealth, related to Tony Fauci, showing that Fauci is lying under oath to Congress about this gain of function that he's been part and parcel of and knowing of and tries to use his, his Jesuitical phrases to get around. But 

up against the doctor who worked at EcoHealth, who's very familiar with all this Moderna DARPA ongoings, it's hard. And so, I can see why he encountered serious resistance because they really don't want a book like this out there. So again, kudos to the publisher and props to the whistleblower who you are about to meet in a few seconds. I just wanted to show a couple more of these hot pages on screen so people might know why they want to get a book, prioritize it, internalize it, and share it with your friends and family. 

Now without further ado, we're going to go ahead and bring on our guest. Let me go ahead and get things tidied up. We will be right back with doctor Andrew Hough. Again, he worked for doctor Peter Daszak at EcoHealth Alliance twenty fourteen to twenty sixteen. And with that knowledge of what their fundraising was, what the grant proposals were, like, he helped to create the pitch deck to help In Q Tel fund, you know, these sort of so so there's a lot of information that you guys are about to get to expose to. But of the of all the audiences 

out there, you guys are the best educated and most well prepared to internalize what the whistleblower, Doctor. Andrew Huff, has to share with us. So let's go to it and let's press some buttons and make that happen. Welcome back to the Grand Theft World Podcast. Tonight's guest, doctor Andrew Huff. He's a, former vice president of EcoHealth Alliance. You might have heard about them over the past couple years with that pandemic thing that was going on. He's also since become a whistleblower, and he is the author 

of this great book, which I have read, The Truth About Wuhan, How I Discovered the Biggest Lie in History. Doctor Andrew Huff, welcome to Grand Theft World. How are you doing today? Oh, well, I'm doing better. I'm getting over multiple illnesses. We need to come up with a new definition for the illness that circulates with people who've had the jab. Cause it it causes some kind of bacterial and, multiple viral infections all at the same time, and I'm getting over it. And I think this could be what's contributing to the sudden deaths. But, anyways, I'm doing better. Thank you for having me. Well, reading through your book as a whistleblower, I related to a lot of the experiences, especially once you encountered some resistance. I never had anyone fly drones over my hot tub or anything, but I did have break ins. I did have people make threats against me and my my wife. 

Where did you start to you know, amongst your corporate work? Did it ever occur to you that you would become a whistleblower? Had you ever seen any of the famous movies about whistleblowers? Because I I just imagine you going about your work, doing a great job. You're you're helping the right grants with In Q Tel and these sort of things for EcoHealth. You have a good time back about ten years ago, but then you started to come across some things that you felt were unethical, little untoward, and it drew your attention. And then later down that road, I'm sure you took some steps to alert people to this. But can you explain the transition? This is what gets people. The transition between normal everyday work and what was that splinter in the mind that got you thinking? Like, I don't know if that's right, and should I be participating in this sort of activity? 

Yeah. Well, I I actually have a history of always doing things by the book. Every place I've worked, whether it's in the military or as a civil servant. And, actually, let's see if I can grab I have a good prop here on my desk. It actually so this was given to me as an award at Sandia National Laboratory. So this actually is a ballot that built the first atom bomb. And they handed this down to different scientists for kicking management's butt. And I was given this honor by a person who retired. So I've had this kind of mentality my entire career of always standing up for what's right and doing it. And I got into some 

tests at every one of my employers, but I always made the best of it, made the situation better, and got out of it. The pivotal point at Equal Health Alliance is that once I'm promoted to vice president, I start start to see under the hood in detail everything that's going on at the organization, and none of it's adding up. And I I have seen some of these other movies that you referred to. So I've seen, like, The Informed, I think, was a whistleblower movie. I'm trying to think which other ones. Maybe Erin Brockovich kind of, 

made that quote. That's a good one. And a couple other classics that whistleblowers usually pick up on, the insider, Parallax View, The Constant Gardener, Three Days of the Condor, and then you start to get the gist of, oh, I'm doing something that's kinda unwelcome at the at the top. I thought I was doing the right thing, but then you start to find out there's people who are doing the wrong thing professionally. Yeah. Absolutely. And that became the case at Ekoath Alliance. So once I start to see under the hood and I actually read the technical manual so the the big revealing moment for me is that we have this big project or had this big project at Econ Alliance called Predict. Predict was funded by the United States, 

United States Agency for International Development, USAID. And we were being paid to go collect coronavirus samples globally. And my boss, doctor Peter Gasick, was running around telling the world that we are going to predict and prevent the next pandemic with this work that we were doing. But once I was actually brought onto the project and I read all the technical manuals, I realized, like, this is this is all a bunch of BS. This is pseudoscience. There's no way that we can actually accomplish the things that we're telling everybody to the tune of a tune of millions of dollars. 

And I even privately approached my boss. I'm like, you know, this this sort of looks like pseudoscience. I don't know what the heck you're telling everyone here. And and I did it very professionally and away from everyone else. And I I was just trying to get a sense of what was going on. But the more and the more of the meetings and benefits and and fundraisers that I went to, I couldn't, you know, I couldn't really believe that they were getting people to pay for this. And this combined with, my boss just being sort of a, a psychopath. I determined that towards my end of my employment at Equal Health Alliance. I decided to leave. And I look back, it's the happiest day of my life. I I never thought Equal Health Alliance would ever become anything. So I left Equal Health Alliance in twenty sixteen. The pandemic doesn't happen until twenty nineteen. I would undergo be a professor, and and I that was fine there. And then I went off to be a tech executive in, 

Silicon Valley. And I I did find it both those places and never thought anything but eco the lines. Like, oh, those people are just gonna keep selling those people their snake oil, and that, you know, they're gonna be going down that path, and it's never gonna amount to anything. But, boy, I was wrong. Public school didn't, didn't prepare you for such a for such a a calculation? You got it wrong? How did you bet wrong on yourself in that case? Well, I bet I bet right on myself by getting the heck out of there because otherwise, it would have been like, any one of my colleagues that are still working there. And I'm surprised that 

that my colleagues because there's only unless they change the structure, there's only three or four other vice presidents in in doctor Dasik, and they still work there. And I can't believe none of them have spoken out. I know that most of the people all involved with this at Equality or the University of North Carolina and Columbia University, the first inner ring circle of this gain of function work, they've all lawyered up, and they're not talking to anyone. So that that tells you a lot. Yeah. Well, it also tells you a lot that nowhere along the line was EcoHealth Alliance, 

suspect. That Dazak, he's a guy who gets to go in with the Chinese and say there's nothing to see here. He got to write that that snappy Lancet article saying any any questions will be conspiracy theory, out of the gates. So I've become a fan of his for not good reasons. Right? I followed his you know, I'm like, who is this guy who's like Johnny on the spot? Who's this guy who's talking about making chimeric in a function? You know, he's so calm and casual. I I'm not gonna pathologize him. But sociopaths, psychopaths, somewhere in that realm is the people who don't care about the lives of other people and the causality of their actions. Right? And this gain of function thing where they hope to prevent another pandemic by making something super virulent so they can, like, head it off at the pass, that doesn't make any sense, but it does make sense for bioweapons. And it does make sense because there's these treaties over the years that you can't do the bioweapons that they would rebrand it and go over here and try to do it under USAID, 

which is the CIA, or later, it's just DARPA DARPA all through and through with all the mRNA stuff. Right? And then you you left in twenty sixteen. So you had a couple years there where work where you're working directly under doctor Dazak. Right? And you see and you're participating in fundraising, you know, hobnobbing with people in tuxedos and, you know, giving them the this is what we can do and give us money and then writing grant requests for In Q Tel, which is the CIA DOD kind of funding arm. Right? So you're right in the middle of their pitch deck. 

When you were talking about your pitch deck, I'm like, you got me at hello. I'm a I'm a former Silicon Valley Wall Street salesman. Tom talk to me about your pitch deck. You're helping these guys actually put money in the bank so they can send the bat lady and the batman out to the bat cave and make some aerosolized mRNA vaccines and stuff. So that's a pretty crazy work payload. I'm glad you got into academia where I'm sure it's a lot slower pace. And, you know, so you you had that stint, but you're no longer working there when they finish all these things and put them to work. So you see the pandemic come out, and then you see your former employer involved. And then what starts your gears going there? And when did that happen? 

Well, my gears start going in late December of twenty nineteen because that's when I find out about the pandemic, and it's it's not even on a blip on the national news yet. So I I find you out through up, like, a online forum. You see this thing going on in China, and Yeah. We did too. I I work with like, I read Whitney Webb's DARPA document in, January twenty twenty before the the states has even known about COVID. And we're already watching this thing in China, and then we're looking at this thing that DARPA's doing. I'm like, does does this have anything to do with each other? And sure enough, like, a week later, it's like, yeah. It does. Yeah. It does. So go ahead. Please continue. Well, heck, you're more on topic than I was because I couldn't believe it. I mean, so the so I found out with the virus in Wuhan, China, this emerging infectious disease event. 

And, initially, I'm like, yeah, it's probably naturally emerging. But then in the back of my mind, I know that Equal Health Alliance had the Wuhan Institute of Virology as a subcontractor for all this gain of function work. And I'm like, you know, this seems weirder and weirder and then by the time, you know, I'm into January or February of twenty twenty, I'm I'm firmly at camp lab leak, and I'm trying to convince everyone that it's a lab leak just based on the circumstantial evidence alone and how the US government is lying to us. I mean, that was the thing that I found most concerning or strange is that from 

late late so if I find out about it in in mid to late December twenty nineteen, and the US government and the other epidemiologists in the circle are not talking about this. They're not communicating out to the public. They're not fulfilling their mission as as the CDC, for example. What the heck is going on? And I thought I was in the twilight zone. I didn't know whether this was really a political thing, so I didn't know know whether I could trust Republicans. I didn't know whether I could trust Democrats. Nothing made sense about it. And I was watching, trying to see, like, take cues from the administration with well, so eventually to the point where we have doctor Birx and doctor Fauci coming out. They're giving us bad information, and then they're flip flopping continually. 

They're they're not the US government's ignoring the national pandemic preparedness plan, which I had helped work on a couple different versions of that for different government agencies. And I'm like, what the heck is going on? I'm like, this just it doesn't it doesn't make sense. And I didn't know if it was a big coverup operation. And then we could get eventually to the point where, as you mentioned earlier, that doctor Dask is appointed to the WHO's investigation of the origin. And I'm just I'm like, then none of this makes sense. I'm like, I cannot believe so. The guy who's running the laboratory subcontracting the laboratory with this private leapfrog is put in charge, Then the Lancet letter and all these other things. Yes. And we all all know the history of how this plays out. 

But, I mean, it it's just it was so fantastic for me, so fantastical that I couldn't believe it myself. You shouldn't. You shouldn't. You should be highly incredulous and keep having to find more and more facts until they stack up beyond reasonable doubt. Right? So I did not believe I didn't I didn't come to a conclusion that early on in January, February, but I was definitely, like, once I put together that there's a thing going on and that there is a lab there because I thought the lab thing, I thought it was conspiracy theory. I was incredulous. I was like, there's no lab right near the oh oh, jeez. 

And they do they do work on this stuff. And then I woke up You make two labs. Right? Right. Right. There are two there are two labs. There are two labs technically, and then you see when they're built and who works there and what they're doing and what EcoHealth is doing there. And then you see, doctor Shizheng Li, who's working with Barrick at UNC and the no Centimeters technique and all this stuff just added up way too quick. So then Francis Boyle, who wrote the, anti terror bio the anti bioweapons terror anti terrorism act in nineteen eighty nine, He came on the scene. He's a constitutional law professor, and he's like, here's the papers. And he pointed out the twenty thirteen Nature article, the twenty fourteen 

ban of gain of function, the continue continuation of all that in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. I said, well, there's definitely something here. So then I went back and I looked at the two thousand nine Pentagon pandemic planning document. And I've I've familiarized myself with that, and I went through and I said, okay. It's very vanilla. It's very general. But by the time you get to the twenty eighteen Pentagon pandemic planning document, they're very specific that the only thing that that that can shut down the world is a pandemic. And what kind of pandemic? It has to be a novel respiratory 

coronavirus pandemic that would trigger this event. Now at the same time I see that document, there's other groups like, Fauci and BARDA and talking at Milken Institute on October twenty nineteen, and they're like, hey. Making vaccines and eggs, that's the old style. We wanna do that new mRNA technology, but there's too much bureaucracy. And if we could just make this thing happen, if we could just cause an event, and they're just wishing on stage, and at that very time, it's out there, where it came from, how it got out there. We'll talk about that in a second. But at that same moment in October, you got event two zero one. You have all these things stacking up. You got the closure of Wuhan lab over there because something happened. They got ordering of new air systems for that place. There's a whole ton of stuff, and nobody in our side, from the authority side, is is 

curious, worried, concerned. They're all just like, everybody shut down. We're gonna do this two weeks, but it's really gonna be three years thing. And they were all in lockstep. And then you find out Well, this is a huge fella in lockstep. Yeah. I gotta jump in. That's a huge time time gap in difference too. So from the time that where the the Chinese laboratories are chugging down until the time where they're saying two weeks in the United States, it's a period five months. Six months. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. So whether it was accidental, but then the other thing was there's one more piece of information that no one really talks about. There's 

a August twenty eighth new, Washington Post article, I think it is, and it talks about Fort Detrick having to be shut down. And at the bottom of the article, it doesn't tell you why it was shut down in August twenty nineteen, right before the pandemic. But it does say when it had to be shut down in the past like this, it's because they are working on viruses off the database, black projects. And if they got caught in August with a black project and they didn't wanna scuttle it, they might move it over to a new place where they're already doing contract work, and that would take a series of hours or days to make that transition. And if the new BSL four lab over in Wuhan got something they're not prepared to handle, it could readily leak, 

but that could also just be plausible cover for how it gets out in the first place. So the I don't know whether it's accidental or on purpose, but they are definitely working on the thing that came out, and they definitely had the antidote ahead of time that they wanted to use. And they definitely didn't panic, and they they benefited at every step of the way, and no one got fired. So I can only assume that it rolled out exactly how they wanted it. And now people like you are putting up resistance and and pointing out inconvenient truths. Yeah. I don't think it it it rolled out quite exactly the way that they intended it to. Agreed. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, if you look at at least for the Chinese coming part Communist Party, 

I do firmly believe it's a leak. I don't think it's intentional. They could have maybe bribed someone to get it to leak. If the US military was moving something from Usamrid to Wuhan, the easiest way to do it would be like standard mail. You just put it in a secure shipping package and then you send it. And that's typically how they move these agents around. They're not supposed to do that in some cases, but oftentimes, they're they're just shipped. And I think, actually, Ralph Barrick, there's a recorded interview of him talking about him shipping chimericks in standard mail. So, 

you know, who knows how where it was actually the the final agent was engineered? I don't really think that matters. It only matters where it escapes. Escapes in Wuhan. And the reason why I don't think this is quite lock and step for China and what the Chinese Communist Party want is look where they are today. So they're having a lot of domestic upheaval. The communist party party is arguably weaker today than it was before the pandemic. They've actually lost GDP, since the pandemic. It's decreased. They haven't hit their party recruitment 

goals for new members coming into the party. So I think and then also you you said I wanna pick up on something else. You also said that they had the antidote. Well, they had a new experimental drug or platform that they wanted to use, and that's the mRNA. The Chinese are not using it. We're using it to our own detriment. And it would be suicide to intentionally release this on your own soil, not knowing exactly how it would behave or play out in the population. And this is why I'm still in camp leak, not intentional. People are a lot of people have been saying it's intentional. It's intentional. You know, Obama Obama did this. 

I haven't seen the evidence yet. I mean, I I I'm the kind of guy that I will change my opinion when the evidence comes up to demonstrate that. I just haven't seen anything to support that yet. Alright. Good. Good. Good. And I'm not gonna try to influence you on that because I don't have a decision either. I don't think it matters. It's already happened. It's what we do from here on out. However, if there was a a group of people who were internationalists and it's not a Republican Democratic thing, right? It's about creating a global government. If it was about globalism and depopulation and bringing in, a new social credit system and a great reset for the planet, then you don't need the communist party and you don't need the American political system. You don't need the American dollar anymore. All these things are in flux and changing right now. And there is a lot of evidence 

to all that I just pointed to. So it's a supranational group of people that are acting as, people who openly declare that they wanna world government and that the time of nation states and individual rights is passed. So they want communism. They want you to own nothing and like it. You've heard those rumors, but what people see with, like, the World Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab, they don't take it too seriously because they're not meant to. But that's the world's biggest corporations, and they were made as a working group from the Club of Rome in nineteen seventy who said we need a World Economic Forum can to do this thing. And the Club of Rome was about depopulation 

and over you know, they say overpopulation, so now we have to get to, like, the green agenda and net zero and all these things, ESG. All these things that are coming in, there's a connection between all of them. There's a narrative that has evolved over the past hundred years on all this stuff. So So you're not supposed to know any of that stuff because you're just out there living life. Right? But then you bump into, why is DASZAC untouchable? And does the CIA or MI six or other nation state intelligence agencies have anything to gain from exactly what's going on? 

Yeah. That that's a great question. So the the WEF, the so I'm willing to wear the WEF, the globalist agenda. Mhmm. And and then, you know, the wealthy large corporations or multinational corporations that are part of the ESG scores, sometimes I look at it this way. You never let a good disaster go to waste. So for all these people manual? That's that's good for political, upheaval? They use that all the time. Absolutely. And I think that's, to a large extent, what happens here. 

Now it depends who you ask, though, because there's so many different so when you say globalist or the World Economic Foundation types, there are so many different entities that are actually a part of that in individuals. So I think if you ask, an ExxonMobil versus asking a Bill Gates, they might have each one group versus the man might have very different answers or responses to what would be your intent behind certain decisions or actions that you make. And so it's it's and I think I have a difficult time lumping them all together. So I do think, like, the the Bill and Melinda Gates types, they they don't care about people or humanity, and they don't do anything to to further their wealth. I do think there are some members, corporations that are part of the World Economic Foundation because 

it suits their better line, but they probably don't even agree with their own ESG scores that they're trying trying to push on everybody else. And there's been a lot of pushback actually recently against ESG scores. They might might not be sticking around, but the weird overlaps then you get between, the World the World Economic Foundation and then the communist social socialist agenda is very strange. Alright. So this this is a good point for you to be at, man, because part of the interview is for me to help you grow a little bit. Right? So I've been doing this for twenty years. I've asked these questions. So, like, you're seeing communist China, 

but the people I'm talking about, they ran the communist experiments in Soviet Union and, communist China, all from Wall Street. Right? So it's Anglo American bankers. It's the city of London bankers. It's Wall Street bankers. And the people that they represent, more importantly, Bill Gates and those guys, those foundations, they're the bottom part of the population that does see us as cattle, as animals to be dealt with, to be I know the FBI. Tracked, to be harnessed for their purposes. They have a There's a might makes right mentality. 

They believe he who has the gold makes the rules. Right? So there's a there's a grow a little bit. Right? So I've been doing this for twenty years. I've asked these questions. So, like, you're seeing communist China, but the people I'm talking about, they ran the communist experiments in Soviet Union and communist China, all from Wall Street. Right? So it's Anglo American bankers. It's the city of London bankers. It's Wall Street bankers. And the people that they represent, more importantly, Bill Gates and those guys, those foundations, they're the bottom part of a population 

that does see us as cattle, as animals to be dealt with, to be chipped, to be tracked, to be harnessed for their purposes. They have a a might makes right mentality. They believe he who has the gold makes the rules. Right? So there's a there's a super state out there. Now there's a lot of credible information. I have David, Rockefeller's memoirs. On page four zero eight. He says he's a proud internationalist. You know, this is this is their goal for the past hundred years. The people that made their money family money from the opium trade with the British empire, they never stopped. Even though America separated, 

there's always been a group of, Anglo American, call them the Boston Brahmins or the Eastern establishment families that have been loyal to the crown because they they're into the represent that system, not something that's keeping America safe. So from an internationalist perspective, there's, like a book called The Superclass. Five thousand individuals who are non elected who control 

the world. And it's written by someone who's a council informed relations member, Carnegie member, Kissinger Associates partner, David Rothkopf. So there's a lot of credible books. The the the number two in Canada, Kristia Freeland, who works for Trudeau, World Economic Forum young leader. She wrote a book called The Plutocrats. She's very happy to tell you that there's a group of people, they're separating from us, and that they do have these agendas of depopulation, call it eugenics, because they had to rebrand after their Hitler project that they funded. So all these sort of things, these contradictions 

come into place. And if you see, like, Wuhan and the medical establishment in China today, you can go back to the nineteen twenties when the Rockefeller Foundation set all of it up. And the source the source for that, by the way, is Raymond Fosdick, who was the president of the Rockefeller Foundation. He says how the allopathic Rockefeller Medical establishment set in like, they the robber barons from the Western countries set up China's industrial nature so they could be communist in the first place, and then they funded Mao, David Rockefeller's proudest project. Well, 

my response to that is simple. I I used to pal around with all these people, and they're grooming them to be one of them, but I didn't you know, I would never have the capital to be one of them. And these these notions of how humans are the riffraff and they're to be dealt with, it it it's in by American politics, you could call it the uni party at its best. And it is very real. Now Rockefeller funding the Mao to to run or basically 

gain power in China, it would be a brilliant strategic move for him to get the resources out of the country for him to amass more wealth. And that that that is nothing new. I mean, that that actually takes place through American Western expansion from different types of resource extraction, whether it's the timber or petroleum industry sort of during our the golden age. And and golden age has passed. You're absolutely right. And when the robber barons were done harnessing the wealth of America, they sent the their their parties over to Russia and China 

to set up for the cold war in the whole twentieth century. You can't have all the twentieth century war without without railways and roads and industry to help them along to produce planes and trains and automobiles. Joshua Foer: That's true. Jason Brett (zero twenty three:forty one): So with a bigger picture and no longer seeing it as Republican and Democrat, let's look at some of the first people you went to when you blew the whistle. Because I've been right there. I didn't know the political angles when I went and started trying to tell people what was going on. So did you go, I think you went to a a Democratic 

congressman or representative? And Well, yeah. Number of people. So first of all, I I start telling secretly journalists, mainstream media journalists, what are going on. And ten ones who tend to probably be more Republican leaning. And then some independent scientists and critical thinker types, Brett Weinstein and Jan Jeklik. And, anyways, this is when my phones get tapped. So my my phones are being tapped by the FBI when this this has happened Or an So when you start when you start reaching out, you notice that you're under, 

SIGINT signals intelligence? Well, no. I don't. So Okay. This is in retrospect. So immediately after having these conversations, and then me starting to talk to to speak with foreign journalists, that the harassment and then heavy surveillance and intelligence gathering happens around my house and in my life. The first people that I decided to go to though are, elected representatives in the House, in the House Intelligence Committee that are Republican because the Democrats won't hear me. And then in my state, though, I actually go to Senator 

Gary Peters' office to file a whistleblower complaint. And then he actually threatens my communications executive on the phone, which I couldn't believe. And then by pointing to the newly minted DHS bulleted on COVID misinformation. So the whole ministry of truth thing that came out the the day after I contacted Gary Peters office. I think they actually crafted it just for me specifically to threaten me. And then I just kept doing my thing anyways. And, I think the FBI got back to my attorney related to that too. That may or may not be true, because there's a lot happening right then. But 

the whole thing I mean, it it's it's so surreal. You just you can't believe that it happened and but it actually did. Yeah. It's difficult to communicate to other people. So in my case, when I blew the whistle, I first called the SEC who was investigating my company already. I called the attorney who's investigating. I I worked for a company that's now Dell EMC. So it's a pretty big company. And the guy who's investigating threatens me with prison. He says, You need to send you to prison. And I have a recording of the call. I played it in court because I was so 

blown back, like, this is not what I expected to happen in this call. So when you start getting the opposite of the response, like, you do something and you expect a certain causality and you start getting irrational causalities, you're like, what's going on? And I wasn't political back then. I don't know how political you were when you're reaching out, but I didn't know right from left. And so you went to the right who would hear you. Did they do anything? No. They didn't. And they still haven't done anything until this moment. And we actually went back with more evidence and 

basically, shortened a bridge version of my book with only the scientific facts and, facts of fact pattern of what happened Mhmm. To to send it, and they they didn't wanna investigate. So we'll see if they actually investigate today. And then my next course of action is I actually filed whistleblower complaints with all the different three letter agencies involved, which is damn near all of d all of DC, which people don't realize. I mean, every three letter agencies is involved with this debacle. And I filed whistleblower complaints of all the agencies. And then when they of the two agencies that actually 

got back to me, they only were interested in in investigating equal health alliances financial crimes, which were a slap on the wrist. And I even said that before I brought these up. I'm like, well, you know, there's this MITRE time card fraud thing, and there's this. But they only wanted to talk about that, and none of the data function work things. That's outside their jurisdiction. It's outside their purview. They they have a budget to go after some money, but they don't they're not trying to, like, get in the way of national security. That's not their job. Yeah. National security I I don't know I don't I don't know how much of this is national security. I mean, it's a big intelligence community screw up. Back to your earlier point point or statement 

on, you know, what would the CIA's interest be here? Well, I don't know what the CIA's interest here is, and I try to figure that out. But there definitely were were probably pivotal in orchestrating the relationship of or the the establishment of the relationship between key individuals in the United States and abroad. That that part is is key to is clear to me. And then how much more behind that? I don't know. Have you ever looked into the origin and evolutions of the CIA? Oh, I'm I'm I'm quite familiar. Alright. So And and you've worked with these people. I can tell you about the book. Yeah. Absolutely. Over the years. Right. I got interested after I worked amongst these people too. So, 

Wall Street bankers but British intelligence comes from City of London, bankers. So it's Wall Street lawyers here. It's City of London bankers over there. Our intelligence agencies, CIAOSS, how they started, GCHQ created NH NSA, they're they're not they're not ours. They're part of the Anglo American establishment. That's why they're part of the Five Eyes British Empire intelligence system, and it's been deep captured since Kennedy was killed. And so there was a time when American intelligence was just about preserving American ideas, values, our lifestyle. 

But in my lifetime, CIA has never been doing the work of American citizens. It's always been doing the work of property management for the empire that created it. And that starts back before twenty years before CIA with the CFR, the Council on Foreign Relations, an injection of the Anglo American communist system, because the council is a Soviet, the council on foreign relations. They couldn't call it Soviet on foreign relations here in America because of the Russian experiment, but it's the same thing. So we're being colonized. And what you are is coming in on the bottom of seeing that colonization. 

But until you get the contextual history of what the game's being played, you're probably gonna continue to run into some healthy resistance, which is good because you're over the target, man. That's why I was excited to talk to you. I'm like, oh, I'm talking to somebody who's right there over the target and talking about the chimeric gain of functions that Fauci denies all through and through. So let's take a look at why would they need to put why would they need to humanize mice? What's the ACE two receptor in this whole this whole game of mRNA and getting this coronavirus to bond with human beings because it wasn't doing a good job, and then they did some function experiments, 

twenty thirteen, these sort of things. And then they all of a sudden, they had a thing that would attach to humans, and then all of a sudden, there was a plan to shut down the world if this thing were to happen. And, you know, there's a lot more congruency there to be, to be had. So this, humanizing of mice, why would they do that? Well, don't forget the humanizing of bats too. Yes. The bat a fight. Yes, sir. So we have humanized bats and human Empire bats too were in there. If you read the drastic papers, you know, from from the leak, from, the summary side, he made these claims. I was like, what? And then I got into the source documents. So I've gone through all these documents just like you and and Ren's and other people that are really interested and have the capacity and the curiosity to be like, what are they doing here? Because you took away my career with this, so I got nothing better to do than to look into you now. Right? So what have you discovered? What did you know when you worked there? What did you think they were doing, and what do you know now? 

Well, when I worked there, I actually was asked to review the understanding the risk of back coronavirus emergence proposal. I was brand new. I was hired as a senior scientist. And when I went to go review this thing, I didn't really think anything of it because it's very common for scientists to peer review your organization or your peers, the, you know, the people in your office, their work to to help them get the funding. So I reviewed this proposal. It's highly polished, and it's clearly gain of function work. And without a doubt and I noticed a number of, you know, inconsistencies 

toward the back, but my boss tells me that he's got it taken care of and not to worry worried about those inconsistencies being with direct violations of biosafety and, biosafety protocol according to NIH on the select agent form. So even though you notice it, they tell you don't worry about it. Yeah. My boss tells me that got patterns here. Yeah. But my boss tells me that he he's basically got it taken care of. Don't worry about it. And I believed him. You know? Like, what the heck? Right? And I've got my own plate of work to do. For me, I look at this way. It's a regulatory checkbox, and if he can't get it past the regulators, it I've notified him. It's on him if it fails because it would be something to disqualify you if you got caught. 

So I had done my my due diligence. We discussed data function if, you know, a number of times when I worked at E. C. L. D. Alliance because guess what? We're infectious disease scientists, researchers, epidemiologists, veterinarians, people working in this field. Of course, we're discussing gain of function work. It's the most hot topic, controversial hot topic in in in the space. With this project, I was happy when we got the award. It helped, Peter and Kevin expand the company. Nice chunk of money. An interesting side note is that we actually get an email back from NIH in I think it's late, 

or early twenty sixteen or late twenty fifteen that they suspect that this is a dangerous gain of function work that's under the ban, the more, moratorium. And then they allow doctor Dasik to write the rules of how this is not gonna function, how he's not going to break the rules. Sort of unbelievable. SoFism at its best. Yeah. And then so back to your question of of how this you know, why do this work? So the the argument is that we do or scientists perform gain of function work so that we can get ahead of the next pandemic threat or the next bioterror threat or the next bioweapon 

threat. So if you take an agent and you engineer to be one or two steps ahead, evolutionary time speaking, You can make modifications to a drug or a vaccine to treat that critter, that bug, or that pathogen that might come out in the future. The only problem is with what actually happens is that they engineer these bugs to have genetic characteristics which are unlikely or not probable. For example, the SARS CoV-two agent has HIV inserts in it. And you you have to ask yourself, well, how would a bat coronavirus get HIV, which is a human reservoir disease, or maybe even 

argue chips in some rare cases. How do we know that? Because that paper was withdrawn after it was published that claimed that. Remember the Indian scientists in February twenty twenty, they published on Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory, and they're like, it it includes, HIV glycoprotein insert. And then all of a sudden, a couple days later, somebody made a call, and all of a sudden, it's withdrawn. I have a paper here. Yeah. Yeah. So there's a there's a there's a Second resource. Couple there's there's two dat databases. One's called GenBank, and that is a a a genetic sequence database. 

And then there's a tool called BLAST. BLAST is a way to go search for sequence pairs in this database. So it's very clearly, if you go look at the genetic sequence of SARS CoV-two, the strain that has these HIV inserts in it. And most alarmingly, some of these inserts, or not inserts, but sequences were patented by Moderna in twenty thirteen through twenty sixteen on genetic material, which would have been collected at ECoeth Alliance from the PREDICT program 

in the manufacture and testing of the mRNA SARS CoV two jab before the pandemic even happened. Alright. Now let's pause there for a second, a hot second. Because at that time, twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, Moderna is being funded and given technological help from DARPA, and so is EcoHealth Alliance. EcoHealth Alliance got a lot more from DARPA than they did from Tony Fauci's NIH, which tells you what what's the defense department do? They're the department of war. They're they're not making peace agents with their budgets. Right? So there's a heavy overlap between DARPA 

and EcoHealth Alliance. Well, not not just just DARPA, but I would say national security. So For sure. Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Defense, generally speaking. I received most of my funding from the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, which is a subagency of DOD. Well, he also works for or worked for. I don't know if he still contracts there, but he worked for DTRA as well. Who didn't? Robert Malone. Oh, yes. Well, that's how well, when Robert Malone and I first meet, 

it was through trial site news, actually, his website, but they they recorded it. And we had a very high level discussion about what the other person knew, Yeah. Which is very interesting because he's been working on the countermeasure, and I had been developing signals intelligence, basically, for DoD. And we had sort of operated at the same level, but in two different silos. So You know? I was just gonna say that those silos were put in by the Dulles brothers right before Kennedy was killed. The the compartmentalization in Angleton, that that was all part of, the British invasion. Alright. Let's get back to the topic at hand. So when you're there, what specific unethical things did you see outside of, like, the fundraising? 

Did you see a misrepresentation of what they're actually doing to what they were telling investors? Oh, absolutely. And and it made me sick to my stomach. So the first year that I worked there while while I'm a senior scientist, I I hear about all the other things that that the other people in the company are allegedly doing. And this being the predict program and some of the other modeling or other things that they're just telling they're telling everyone that we're doing conservation work. And they were we would bring these cute fur furry animals. We'd go we'd get animals from, like, the Bronx Zoo or something. We'd bring them into benefits, 

and we have these these big, huge parties. Like, we had an an annual event at Cuastobino's in New York City, a very fancy, banquet place. Bring the billionaires in, have all the cute animals there, you know, and we tell everyone that we're saving these animals. And the first time that I saw this, I'm like, I can't believe that they're telling everyone this. I mean, we knew of scientific hard pretty hard scientific research modeling and forecasting, and none of it involves any of these animals. And I see. And everyone everyone believed it, though. Like, everyone believed it because we set it up, and we told everyone that we do that we're doing. They believe it was that was real. They believed that we could predict pandemics. 

And I was probably the most hardcore infectious disease forecaster and modeler at the organization. I joke I was the only person that equaled the lines to ever predict anything, which is true. But, you know, they're telling you we're gonna predict pandemics. And to think about the hubris you have to have to think that you could do this, it means that you just Peter Daskin would just fundamentally didn't understand what he was dealing with. It's like you have a thousand different ten thousand different variables on something the size spatial map the size of the planet. 

Any one little thing could go wrong. You don't know the parameter space for any of these things. The most complicated statistics and and modeling simulation in the world, and yet we're gonna do it. And and, yeah, it just once it all clicked, that's that's like I said before, I I told Peter, like, some of this sounds like pseudoscience. Then you see people, you know, forking out, you know, a hundred thousand, two hundred thousand dollars, then simultaneously asking, you know we would ask different parties to fund the same thing. So we get one party to fund it, and then we go to a different party and ask them to fund the same thing, and they'd fund it. 

And not exactly illegal if it's coming from private donors, but definitely shady. And I wanted nothing to do with it. The more that I saw this, I started distancing myself from it. So I just started going to I tried to not go to as many of the fundraisers, as many of the events. One of the the what really hit me the hardest, I was actually asked to go, present to the Google Foundation and Google headquarters and then with some of the the cofounders of Google, probably couple steps down from the actual founders. And 

we're having a private, you know, private party in this fancy house in downtown San Francisco. And I'm giving a presentation of my work, and it is all very national security focused. So I'm talking about how I'm detecting diseases and how this protects the military and helps protect civilians and all this other stuff. Yeah. And then finally, you know, some a woman stops me and raises her hand. About three quarters through my presentation says, this all sounds a lot like defense. And I was so shocked. I'm like 

in my mind, I'm sitting here thinking, like, what did you think this was? Like, I didn't know what to say. Like, she caught me speed made me speechless. I didn't know how to respond to this. And I called on doctor Kevin Olevall. Like, hey, Kevin. Do you think you can help me respond to this question? And because my next fifteen slides are coming back, but we're just gonna go deeper down the rabbit hole with surveillance and defense and disease detection and and artificial intelligence. And I think that, you know, I was focusing my conversation on being, well, you are all tech people, so you'll understand the tech application of me building artificial intelligence platforms for disease detection. And I thought they would all get a kick out of that. But all of a sudden, you know, it was like this big red flag went off. Like, this is all defense. I'm like, 

I'm sorry it is. And then so you start having moments like this. And then, you know, you have something like this similar to that would happen at a cocktail party or, and it's always with the people actually outside the sphere of the other executives that you're working with too. It's when you have to then lie to people outside the organization about what you think is going on. When the board of directors would stop by my office and say, hey. How are things going here? Well, I'm not gonna throw my boss under the bus, but I don't wanna tell this person either that, oh, God. Everything's great, and we're gonna change the world. And people can pick up on that, though, too. They change the world, though. Right? 

Yeah. They change the world, but not in the way that they're anticipating. But the board of directors have a lot of, at EcoHealth Alliance have a lot of sort of strange connections as well. Many into petrochemical and, pharmaceutical. Yeah. They're they're people's Renfields who hold those positions of power in the public. Right? They're not the actual people behind the scenes. They're the people that can go out in the daylight. I'm speaking metaphorically, not because it can get confusing in the truth community whether I'm being metaphorical. I think that, if Dazek writes a autobiography, it should be called hubris. 

And maybe if we get our way, it could be hubris and humiliation because he needs to be, I think well, I'm not saying anything to him, but I'm just saying for someone to have the influence and power during a pandemic emergency situation, to write a fake paper for the British The Lancet Lancet is a British medical journal, isn't it? Or isn't it the American one? Lance American. No. The Lance is the American. British Medical Journal has Yeah. The title. So The Lancet has, a very, well established ethos in the community and very well trusted and at a time when things are pretty dicey. They let this one guy 

you know, because we know through, the the FOIA request from Right to Know Foundation, we have to ask Zach's emails. November of twenty twenty, we saw what he typed in February and how he made up the whole Lancet thing and signed these other people's names to it. Like, if that's not cause right there for suspicion and investigation, I don't know what is, but he's got ten of these things where he's walked away clean. So he's somebody's untouchable player on the field. He's like a quarter he's like, you know, he's like Tom Brady. You can't touch him. You 

know? Well, I know for a fact. I mean, if if he wasn't lying when he told me that he is working with so for your audience, Peter Dask asked me whether or not he should work with the CIA. And then he shortly after he asked me that question, he then confirmed that he was working with them. And I have no reason to believe that he's lying. Back to Peter's memoir or autobiography, he's actually an excellent writer. So it'd be interesting to see, watch him. It'd probably be interesting to to read and then see how much psychopathology comes out of comes out of that book. Now him being an untouchable, 

you know, I don't understand why. And in this tactic that he does take with The Lancet and the other, pure the other scientists in the the sphere. So one thing is those other scientists all had something to lose by this being a lab leak. They would either lose funding. They could risk losing, in business terms, market access. So if virology gain of function work is dangerous, a lot of it dries up overnight. I mean, there's not a whole lot for virologists to do without gain of function work. So So, basically, the whole job market drops off for virologists. And 

the fact pattern is doctor Dasik actually did this all the time when I worked at Equival Alliance, and I knew how to do it too, unfortunately. I guess this has made a darker side of my own personality is that I was really good at herding the cats and looking at the rhetorical strategy of how to get all the other scientists on like the house whip or something. How to get all the other players on board so that we could submit a letter to make this rock solid? How do we build scientific consensus? How do and when I say that, I mean consensus. It doesn't mean consensus. It just means we have a bunch of powerful people who all agreed to this because well, peer review is supposed to be this objective system where, 

there's no bias inherited. Actually, it's been created to have nothing but bias in it. And that's something I figured out as a graduate student is that the entire peer review process is, nothing but bias, and it's all regression to the mean. So it's biased because it's blind. And if someone wants to spear somebody and and do a lousy job in the review, and this actually comes out with all the different scientists tied into this over the past year. You can spear somebody and then nobody can come back after you and say, that was a crappy review. You're wrong or challenge you. You can't be challenged. Then the journal editors are all in bed together and in bed with NIH in terms of funding in their appointments. 

So it's really a hierarchical system of of, you know, what they think if a group think or group speak and what is, acceptable to be published. And I've actually accused The Lancet of being that ever since probably twenty twelve when I figured it out. My advisor thought I was crazy. And I go, No, it looks like they're only publishing certain drug studies in this, which are favorable over compared to some of the other things that I know are happening. I've been talking to some other scientists working on things where the Lancet refused to publish their work. So it's very much 

it's very much a club. Academia is a club just like just like being the elites are a club. It's, you know, one of the the sub factions of the elite. And and this is a little personal story. So I went to I lived in New York City, I went to a industry night party. So for people who live in Manhattan, all the pleads supposed to supposed to supposedly go party and come into town on Friday through Sunday. All the locals go out on Monday. Yeah. Where did you live, by the way, in New York City? Forty fifth and tenth in Hell's Kitchen. 

Right on. And then it was flipping over, becoming super trendy. Yeah. Yeah. I I was at eighty seventh in Riverside. Hell's Kitchen's That's a good area. They built that up a lot in the last twenty years. Yeah. So I I went over to industry night and, went dancing in a nightclub or something, and I met some some young women. And they're like, you should come to and they're artsy type. And they're like, you should come to a party with us on Thursday. So I go to the after work, I go from Eco the Alliance, and I go to this after work get together. And it's a very it's in SoHo. And it's a very curated 

club of people, I would say. Mhmm. All very wealthy. And I realized you know, I start talking to everyone. I'm making small talk. And I realized that I'm the only person like me there. There are no other scientists there, no other academic types. And then but I'm seeing that there's just certain types of people there. And the reason why it clicks for for me, I had been asked to go there because I was the token scientist that they wanted to be a part of their club. And so these kind of things, you know, it's it's not so far fetched to think that. This is one time I've experienced in my life. 

Yeah. These things go on, and you bump into them. So what you described as far as academia and it being controlled and peer review, that's a function of what they call the Prussian education system that they brought here to take individuality out of education and to make it into indoctrination. So that whole system you you pointed at is a function of that. And then the other part about how they it's controlled, that's just a microcosm of how our mainstream media works for the past hundred years. Like, there's only so many newspapers that they have to control the editors, and then they can control what's printed in the paper. And if it goes against the narrative, 

then the public never finds out about it. Now twenty years ago, I went to Lowell Bergman because he was played by Al Pacino in that movie, The Insider. And I was like, here's a guy from PBS Frontline. He'll he'll look at my stuff, and he did with his team of people for about a year. And then he came back and said, this might be going on, but we can't touch it. Conflicts of interest. Conflict of interest, I learned about. I was like, what do you mean? And then lawyers also, I had to represent myself pro se because no lawyer would go up against you know, Richard Egan's company. He was an ambassador to Ireland at the time, and he was Chinese biggest fundraiser. So you you learn they don't tell us this in school, that you can't go check people in power with these laws that they broke. I thought that was a thing, like, the whistleblower has protection, 

but they ordered my termination the same day. So there's no protection in reality. And you saw with the retaliation as it escalated, they weren't looking to, oh, let's investigate your claims and see if you're telling the truth. They know you're telling the truth. They don't want you to tell other people, and they're gonna keep trying to discourage you. I think at this point, it's three years out the gate that you should be pretty safe from here. I mean, you wrote a book. You've told your story. This is not something that's gonna overturn their paradigm overnight. You're not Julian Assange, but you bring a very important piece of history from a very, very 

nefarious company at the time of this big thing happening. And, thankfully, you weren't there when they were cooking and finishing this whole thing. You were just there for a slice back in, you know, twenty fourteen, twenty sixteen. So you had enough context to be able to say, hey. There's something rotten in Denmark, but you also don't have to be confused with the people who did the thing because you weren't there. You didn't do it. You pointed out these people were doing wrong before they even did the bigger thing. Accidentally or on purpose, we don't know what he was ordered to do. Well yeah. And it I look at this way. The whole thing is just that from the United States perspective is is a big big disaster. I mean, let's just talk about the financial and economic impact of this. So 

the US government funded equal alliance to outsource this work. What stupid program manager didn't think how this could go wrong? Like the NIH person that contacted Equal with Alliance and said, this looks like this could be subject to the domestic gain of function ban. Maybe they should have just said wanted to do some of that work that day and said, you know, we're going to stop this project. We're gonna bring an end to this. Or, one of a million people along the line who worked in the government could have said no. And that's what blows my mind here is that it seems that the bureaucrats and technocrats 

have gotten so lazy that it's just easier to say yes to everything and not rock the boat. And then these kind of these these complex situations arise just because of this yes, man mentality. And then it gets to another point where, well, geez, we just essentially created an atom bomb here on accident, And we gave an enemy of the United States the materials to make it. Oh, crap. It detonates. And then let's cover this up instead of saying, 

oh, we made some, some mistakes here. I think we need to correct this because this whole system and all these people are gonna be wrapped up into this all again unless we take action to prevent this from happening again. Yeah. And that's my my number one goal is that I don't I don't want to see this happen again. And it's such a low bar. It's it's ridiculous. I mean, there's a million other things I could ask for. I mean, really, I'd like to see a a new international treaty or bioweapons and bioweapons. I don't think that's easily obtainable by any any means. Well, if you had it, who would enforce it? The people who just did the thing? 

See, that's the danger we're in. It's kinda like this catch twenty two. You, the way you're describing it reminds me of twenty years ago with nine eleven. People were like, oh, they let it happen on purpose or they made it happen on purpose, myHOP or LIHOP. Well, in this case, let's say it was accidental. Well, then they would have gone through real measures to protect us and not denied us early treatment and not censored everybody. Like, they have a custom made solution for something they're looking for, and at every step of the way, they tried to make it worse, exaggerate the deaths, deny treatment, send it to the nursing home, deny you know, all this sort of stuff. 

I'm not a jury. I'm not trying to adjudicate this, but I am saying maybe grand jury should look at this type of stuff. There's something there's not just smoke here, there's fire. And you're in the midst of not only knowing the individual parts, how they fit together, and where the contradictions are that people should be like, hey. Check this part of it out because this looks really fishy. This looks like it couldn't come from a pangolin banging a bat at the wet market or whatever the official story was. Right? DNA doesn't match up. There's HIV in there. There's patents from Moderna and DARPA going around in these types of things. 

There's a reason to look more seriously at these things. And I don't think that people can just do that from interviews. I think they need to do it by reading books. And Bobby Kennedy's book's coming out in a couple this week or next week. Right? It's got a red cover too. Read all the red cover Wuhan books. Yeah. He might have stole an idea from I had a conversation with him. I said, you know, you should use really use a bright cup cover instead of black on your books. But he sold, like, over a million copies of that book. And by go use a bright color, it attracts the human eye, and they're more likely to buy it. Well, I'm glad you left I'm glad you left margins in your book because as I went through it, I took a lot of notes throughout. And in Kennedy's, 

Fauci book, there is no margin. Like, every bit of page was used for print all throughout that book. My only my only question is, there's no index in here. Right? There's no index in the back. Was that a conscious decision, or was it a function of it's your first book, or how'd that work? It was a function of this book getting hacked probably about four times during the the during the process. So when I was sending this book back and forth between Skyhorse, it was getting man in the middle attacked Yeah. And they were screwing with it. And it it had delayed the release of the book probably by about three months or four months, which was their intent. 

So finally, it got to the point where Tony, and he's the the owner, I guess, manager at Skyhorse. Tony and I had a conversation, like, let's just get this thing out as fast as we can. We just gotta get out to people. You just have to just have to get it out. Really screw it. Yeah. And, I'm a big fan of Tony's because he was the guy who had the cojones to publish Alex Jones's book, The Great Reset. So I was like, whoever's bringing that to market, he has a big opportunity here. There are people like yourself with stories to tell, and they need a publishing company that's not gonna wimp out or come in at the last minute and say, oh, this conflicts with the interest of our investors. Sorry. We can't do that. I'm really glad that you were able to get it out to market and that it's, it's very readable. It's, like, about three hundred pages, 

and, you do a good job of doing the, the I recognize the whistleblower's narrative. I'm like, oh, he's got a little bit of an axe to grind. Here. Yes. You you because, you know, it not only stuff that happened to you, but the function of what they did killed millions of people around the world. So I remember, you know, describing my own story, people were like, hey. Do you have an yeah. Yeah. I lost a multimillion dollar career because these people get away with well, it wasn't Grand Theft World back then, but they've upped their game. This is just the Grand Theft Country. Now it's Grand Theft World. So, going forward, 

what are the other big activities on your schedule for the rest of twenty twenty three? Are you doing speaking engagements? Are you being filmed for documentaries? What other activities are you doing to get the word out there? And how can I help? I have a feature film, which is a negotiation with a major Hollywood studio. Alright. So there's that. That's good. That's good. Next week, I've got I'm doing sort of, like, all the people who are in Austin, Texas, excluding Joe Rogan, but, hopefully, I get to meet him while I'm there. Yeah. For sure. And then, speaking engagements, more and more the more of those keep popping up. So the I was getting hit so frequently. I was doing, like, eight interviews a day, and that's dying down finally. So as those died down, now I'm gonna get back to doing more writing and more focused interviews and speaking. So that that'll be picking up probably over the next six months. 

Now this, this this film project, you don't have to tell me who it is and the details, But, do you still own your life rights? Have you negotiated that sort of thing? I I hired one of the best. So this is my my second movie offer. I turned down the first one. We we couldn't come to to terms, but I hired a a really good Hollywood attorney. And, she she's like, you want rights to this? You want rights to this? You want licensing rights to this? We're only licensing this to them. They actually owe nothing. Good. And, yeah. So, basically, I went through that with the first filmmaker. 

This filmmaker, I already had a better relationship with this filmmaker. And this one this person's very well known and has done bigger budget films. And the only thing I had to do at this point then was change the amount of money I was asking. So I increased it based on my book coming out now and delivering because the previous movie when when I received the previous movie offer, the book wasn't finished yet. So the person was sort of going on my word that I would get it done. And is it a is it like a documentary, or is it a, like, a bio Feature. Feature film. Featured. 

Alright. That gun that gunfight that goes on with the feds at at my house will be in it. That's good. I've worked with several different whistleblowers who have eventually gotten their things out on, you know, major either Amazon or Netflix or Oliver Stone's made a movie or or it's things like this. So it's not easy, and a lot of people have a couple falls in the way to getting that deal done. And along the way, they get all banged up and jaded from that process. And I was trying to make sure that you had from story to distribution to the public. You've got it figured out. You got your attorney. You You know what your rights are gonna be and what you wanna hold on to. 

That sounds great. What's the do you have a title? No. And No. Invited it. I went move on. Well, probably that's probably the title, but they might have come up with something else. You know, they'll do some market testing with, you know Yeah. Thirty people in there to see how it sells. Yeah. Yeah. Fantastic. Alright. So, this is all well and good for a first interview. I didn't get to talk to you about DARPA, DRASTIC, and, PREEMPT because you guys had PREDICT at USAID. There was also the PREEMPT DARPA 

grant documents that I think that, you know, with the, with the spread and the leakiness, I mean, I think did you use the word leaky in here often? Leaky? Yeah. I thought leaky vaccine? Oh, yeah. Leaky vaccine. Yeah. Leaky vaccine meaning that that it it it doesn't stop transmission. Well, okay. So leaky vaccine in the in, like, the PubMed literature, 

I looked to see if there was an aerosolized mRNA delivery, and there was research on that. But there was also aerosolized mRNA in between people who like, I get it and somebody else doesn't have it, but they I shed to them through aerosol, through coughing, sneezing, what have you. There's a lot of research on that too, and so I wanted to disambiguate that to see if that was something that they had actually achieved or if it was just something that they said they wanted and we're working on and we're funding because it seems similar. Yeah. So aerosolized delivery so aerosolized 

delivery of medications and drugs is a hot field. And so that's gonna be an emergent emerging biotechnology over the next five to ten years. I can't tell you more. I can just leave it at that. And the reason why it is, though, it's a fast It gets it it gets into your your lungs. It gets into your body. It gets into your bloodstream fast. And it can be cheap and efficient to to get it into someone's body via that that route. 

So that's where the interest lies. Now there's also the craziness with the the DARPA proposal where you would take nozzles and then aerosolize a virus into a cave or in or aerosolize the treatment into the cave. And the reason why the Department of Defense would want that is because it's efficient for something like a drone to do that. Yeah. And, you know, their ultimate their ultimate, you know, crazy attack technology would be something like this. They fly a tiny little bug like drone into your house. The bug like drone comes into your house. 

It releases the agent right in front of your face, It flies away. You hit the agent. You get sick and you die. Then it comes in here, and then it can give you other people antidotes if it needs to. Then it flies away. Nobody knows what happened. I mean, that's that's as crazy as it could get, but that that'd be one type of use or application of that technology. And the other thing is that DARPA likes to see it so from a from a program perspective, DARPA likes to see sort of these wild, crazy ideas and wants to fund those type of ideas. So if you come in there with something vanilla, 

you've already put yourself at a disadvantage. So there's that too. Yeah. They're not looking for normal. They're looking for technological advances that avail them, control, past, present, and future. That's Well, they they're it's like one of the book. They wanted me to be their biologics program officer when you know, so while event two zero one and that kind of thing is kicking off, I'm actually contacted by doctor Amy Jenkins to go be the biologics program manager, your director at DARPA. And I turned the position down. I think she was shocked that I did it. I think the reason why they recruited me for that position was because my national security experience 

in that space. But they were trying to silence me from talking about anything related to SARS CoV-two's origin. So I think it was their idea to give me my dream offer at one time, get me back there, give me a top secret clearance, with a specialized compared compared to my size of information Yeah. Access designation, and then basically shut me up. So I read me into the program, and then I could talk about it. And then I never would have been able to write the book. 

Well, my last question. Are you familiar with the author known as Annie Jacobson? Yes. Alright. So she's written on MK Ultra and DARPA and the the, you know, Pentagon, all these sort of things. This might be the next thing on her radar. I could see her having a big thick book of all these sort of things written from her perspective, talking to people like you because I think your vernacular and experience would fit in a lot very well with the research. So I don't know. You focus on your movie, but I'll I'll hope later that it also continues and that, that you have a nice transition 

from your former lines of work. Maybe you're still invited back to be, you know, professor and and and these sort of things in the future and you're not, canceled. Right? I wanna make sure that you as a whistleblower find your path and you have an offer out there and you don't get canceled from all this because you did. You risked a lot. This is not something that people every day do. It takes a special kind of courage and integrity and probably your upbringing and the people who you know, raised you in this world taught you better than to let these people win by cheating. So I wanna thank you for your service. I wanna thank you for bringing this wonderful book to the public. I want everybody to read it. Everybody on this podcast, every in this audience knows all about everything you're talking about. So you've got them at hello, but now they have tool they can hand to their friends and family. 

And, I think the world's a better place because of this. And I think, it's also a better place because you took an hour out of your day today and invested it here with Grand Theft World audience. Thank you, doctor Hough. Where can we find you online? I'm predominantly on Twitter and Getter. Handle is AG Hough, a g h u f f. And other than that, I'm out trying to make appearances now and get out of the world and tell my story. Right on. Thank you so much. Have a wonderful evening. Thank you. Sometimes things work better in concept than actuality. Real quick, I wanna show you guys what's going on at Davos. Over here on the Twitter, we got, Spiro, 

and he says World Economic Forum's twenty twenty three annual meeting list of public figures. Do you think there's a list of people that attend that they don't publish? Well, it's always interesting just to show people, Hey, World Economic Forum, it's a real thing. Here's a letterhead. They do have an official agenda. Of course, all the people that are going to be there aren't going to be on the agenda. But it was just ten years ago, people were like, Does the Bilderberg group really have a meeting? And then the agenda started leaking and they get more coverage. So as individuals, 

researchers, muckrakers like Spiro are out there looking at these events as they go on, perusing through the documents, they bring useful tidbits to us. And, yeah, this is where you can find them over here on the Twitter. Be sure to follow him. Also, I wanna do this real quick. There's the Martin Luther King statue. Definitely doesn't look I don't know what I don't know what that is. Alright. So let's let's talk about, doctor Andrew Hough, the whistleblower who wrote this book right here, The Truth About Wuhan. We just had 

a special ability. Of course, I pre taped it earlier. Sorry we couldn't get him to stay up late on a Sunday night like this. And we had a couple of glitches. Otherwise, it was going pretty well. But now that, now that Doctor. Hough has graced us with his presence, he has elaborated upon his exemplary experiences, and, we've dug in a little bit to this book. How much synergy did you notice between what he has experienced in his own individual path and that which we have talked about here on the show for the past two years? What do you think, Tony? 

Sorry. Repeat the question real quick. I finally got those pictures. Oh, good. I thought I thought I was earlier. Good. I'll I'll I'll it's always good to multitask. Yeah. Huff. He he just can't I I never talked to him before. He just articulated all this sort of stuff that kind of echoes everything we've covered for the past few years, but he doesn't watch the show. He's you know? So, like, we just had an intersection of a couple years of research with an an ecohealth whistleblower who was on the scene and used to work for Dazak, and he called him a psychopath. I don't know. 

That was, like, right out the gate. I'm like, well, that's not He has direct experience with him. So I'll defer potentially to some of his experiences and and gave him the benefit of the doubt. Look, one of the things I found interesting was well, obviously, I'm not surprised by his notions in regards to the larger geopolitical aims of those people in power that you mentioned, the sort of Anglo American establishment. Totally understandable there. But I also see, can't say young Richard Groves, who seems to be maybe similar age, but someone who's just waking up for himself. So it's like ten years older than when I blew the whistle. 

Okay. Okay. But not you know, he's eight years younger than you, nine years, something like that. So he's but it reminds me as a little bit of, like, your process a little bit in regards to, like, him waking up to the fact that he's being surveilled. You know, a lot of people he's trying to talk to seem to not be interested. Although the climate is a little different. You know? When you approach Lou Bergman, the fact that he has a major movie studio, and a major producer interested, that's that's potentially good. We'll have to see if he's got social media. Plus he gets he hooked up on If you think he used social media documentary films, like, there was none of that twenty years ago. So whistleblower today, even though the laws don't protect you, you do have a better chance of protecting yourself in the environment because there are people out there with platforms and audiences who are interested in truth. When I did it, it was just info wars, and they were impossible to get a hold of for a long time. That's very true. And there's multiple avenues by which whistle modern day whistleblowers can achieve escape velocity, whether that means earning enough money or just having, being able to go into a different line of work that's outside sort of the normal expertise because they blew the whistle, and now they're sort of persona non grata in those in, institutions and industries. 

So is this more opportunity for those types? So I'm glad to see sort of land land on his feet. He reminds me a bit of a for the nerdy scientist type. He's very much focused on the facts, which I appreciate because what's ironic is everything we discovered completely by our own research, you know, has I mean, there's not a single thing I've seen him report on that is in contradiction to anything we've discovered. So it's pretty much all, you know, just consistent with the evidence we've been able to uncover. I've known about him actually for well over a year now, but I sort of 

held bit my tongue on it because I didn't know He claimed to have been a, vice president for EcoHealth Alliance, but it didn't seem like there is good information as to is this person who he claims to be? You know, the ethos wasn't well established. But then I came to later it's about May six months ago. I heard some murmurings around the Internet, interwebs in regard to alternative circles that he's most likely one of the key witnesses for what's his name, Thomas Renz, the lawyer, I believe his name is. Right. And he's obviously, been a part of Ron Johnson's, I think the two panels he ran, 

in regards to with Robert Malone and Ryan Cole and Peter McCullough and all these various doctors talking about, the issues with the, the pathologies associated with the Well, he worked with Malone at the Defense Research Threat Protection Project, which told Malone right before the pandemic, like, get your team and suit up. We got a hot spot, you know, and you picture that scene from outbreak where Dustin Hoffman has to figure out where to dump the dogs because he's fighting with Rene Russo. All right. Hollywood movies aside, let's get back to reality. 

This movie will be coming out. I don't know what it's gonna be titled, but I look forward to a day to see, like, how are they gonna depict EcoHealth Alliance in this type of Hollywood feature film. Are they optioning this and giving them this money just so that they can kind of whitewash and soften certain edges before it gets out to public re release. I hope he gets to say exactly what he wants to communicate, but I also know there's probably a production studio and directors and executive producers and financiers and lawyers and all sorts of other things that get mucked up. So I think he's well prepared for success, and, 

I'm looking forward to reading Bobby Kennedy Junior's book that's coming out in a couple days. I pre ordered it because I need to have all the red cover Wuhan books in my collection for the future when people are like, What happened way back then? This is like being alive, like, during World War II, but we're not Nazi Germany. We're like in Vichy, France while we're invaded and we're providing some resistance. And people are like, What was it like when the Nazis invaded with the Great Reset? We can say, Well, people got canceled and people lost their jobs and people had to get experimental medical concoctions. And some brave people left us some evidence behind. Today, class, let's look at this from twenty twenty two. 

I'm just glad he is he finally got it out, and he sort of establishes at those as being someone He has the credentials to back it up. He has some evidence to back it up, you know, his his relationships with the key people. That that's that's nice. It's nice because, like, again, six months, eight months, almost a year ago, I'd become aware of him, but I just couldn't use him as part of Grand Theft Auto at the time because he just, at the time, was being very quiet. And then according to him, you know, surveilled and, you know, being hacked and all these sorts of obstacles he had to overcome 

in order to make sure his message got out there. I also figured he probably didn't because he had sensitive information, he's probably being quiet about it on on behalf of Thomas Renz's counsel to make sure that they can get to court, they can get to senators, they can get in front of people that might be able to be willing to bring up a, you know, a house or a senatorial sort of commission to investigate what's going on in regards to the, gain of function, eco health, Department of Defense, and and DARPA projects and these sorts of, 

nefarious, you know, ideas and Silver up artists of the Grand Theft World variety. So, previous to him for getting the message out and Yeah. Real quick. So for people Go ahead. Klaus Schwab, Xi Jinping, who are the ten foreigners awarded reform friendship medals by China's president, sort of alluded to this earlier. There's Ade and Merliu. That's March twenty fourteen. Chinese president guy who paid for the Wuhan lab, the French dude. Yep. President Xi Jinping visited, the Maya 

the Emiliu, bio but science research center on a state visit to France. Elaine Meteau together with his family members and the staff, the center extended a warm welcome, blah blah blah. He had a long relationship with China's father-in-law, Paul Berlier, first introduced automotive industry technology to China. It was the pioneer of Sino French friendly cooperation. Nineteen seventy eight made the U visit China for the first time, that'd be about the time the trilateral commission just gotten founded and started. And hope of extensive and lasting cooperation in Beijing in the fields of tuberculosis prevention, infection control, and prevention and control of new infectious diseases. For decades, he kept promoting the medical 

cooperation between China and France having established production r and d basis and high level bios' biosafety laboratories in China. BioMediEU helped China improve its research in biomedicine, infectious disease prevention, and control. They're also the ones they reached out to, maybe it was the Sanofi, which, Didier Rayo was one of the individuals that's part of, I think, the Sanofi branch of BioMedio. Could be getting that confused. He's the one that came out and talked about chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, if I remember correctly. Here's another picture you can see. Claesch. 

That's not actually oh, yeah. And then he's Claesch and Gee there again. See here. We got Elaine Milieu, Klaus Schwab, a couple major, Japanese executives. So ten foreigners who helped transform China is the name of the article. China reformed federal friendship medal nineteen seventy eight to twenty eighteen. Notice that begins in nineteen seventy eight. Then we just go over here. Tri lateral commission. Found in July nineteen seventy three, 

David Rockefeller. In order and then, actually, before it was even founded, if I remember correctly, Kissinger made a secret trip over there, when he was Nixon's mentor. And that caught a lot of flack if I remember correctly, but that's going on some some old memory. Anyways, so it's about the time we're opening up. Western capital is flowing in, and and industrial technology is flowing into China. Nineteen seventy eight is not surprising in that regard. 

I'd have to research specifically other countries as they started to flow in their intellectual property and the capital. There, Carl Schwab. Did I email you? Can't tell. But, anyways, you kinda get the point. G in the background and good buddies there. So Yeah. From far away, Jeff Bezos and Klaus Schwab look alike, so it's hard to tell. Not to mention Steph, Stephane Bancel, who was the CEO of Moderna until he very, very recently stepped down. He also worked for Medellu 

by Medellu. So it's, and, you know, maybe, Sona, Sona, if you could actually because she just reminded me of that. I figured Moderna had a sort of a sort of connection. Moderna sort of research for mRNA going back ten years ago. There's some sort of connection maybe you or Sanofi. I know we had talked about that probably six months ago. But you can just see how incest the point is you can see how incestuous this network is and how international, to your point, Rich, this is. And that's maybe the most important point to understand 

in regards to, the activity of these individuals. Yeah. Their activities need to be tracked. Now there were some other individual activities that went on the past week. Neil DeGrasse Tyson. He's out there. He's not just an oblate spheroid with his own gravitational mass. He's also a past guest of the Patrick Bet David podcast this past week. I'm not, body shaming him. I'm making fun of his ablate spheroid. See what look where the premise and the punchline go together. Alright. So he was on the podcast. 

There were some things said about trust the science. Now, on this show, we've said for two years it's not about science, it's all about compliance. Patrick Bet David can't be fooled on this. I think he knows a little too much about the situation. Neil deGrasse Tyson, tone down. Squirmed. Tone down. He he does not understand that the agenda he's like, Hey, Pfizer, can I get a biscuit? Can I get a biscuit? I'm saying the thing. Pfizer's like, Dude, that was three years ago. Everybody knows that's not a thing you get a biscuit for anymore. 

So, a blade spheroid aside, outside of the gravitational mass, let's take a look at this, situation that happened and, there's any number of comments. It's a fascinating interview. I haven't seen the whole thing, but the clips, oh, they made me wanna schedule time and sit down and get more of Neil deGrasse Tyson because apparently, he's a sit down comedian. Whereas, on this show, I'm a stand up, move around comedian. There's a difference. And, so let's go ahead. We're going to go to Del Bigtree and he has a monologue 

with a theme of he would like to sit down and have a beer with Neil Degrassi Tyson and, talk about deGrasse Knowles. So let's go to the high wire from this past Thursday, and let's see, let's see what color Vaz Del Bigtree is wearing this week. I went with, this herringbone gray. Let's see what he does. What's been said by a lot of people, you should never meet your heroes because you're bound to be disappointed. I kinda had that moment happen this week, because of a podcast that went out. There's a podcast with Patrick Bet David. It's gone viral because it has one of the world's favorite scientists, 

Neil deGrasse Tyson being interviewed. And, he got into his opinion on vaccinations and mandated vaccinations and forced vaccinations and, apparently, our social responsibility. It looks something like this. If you wanna get an abortion, get an abortion. If I wanna get the vaccine, I get to choose. So you can't force if if I can't force you to get an abortion, you shouldn't be able to force you to get not about you. It's about people you interact with, and that's the social contract of public health. We don't even know if the vaccine worked or not at the time. Yes. That's what the trials are, dude. That's why these trials what? Are you missing data out there? But but let me ask you a question. Are we saying only one type of scientists are right? No. We're saying that the system in place The sixteen thousand that signed up. No. No. No. The the system in place to test vaccines. 

There's an entire system that's in place that that with review boards and all of this. Yeah. And the average That's in place. Now you can say you can what you can say is I I have a better idea than all these review boards and all these agencies and the CDC. I have a better idea. Here's what you should do, and that would have made everything better. Okay, you can put forth that idea. But what I'm saying is, in a case where you can contaminate someone else, it's not about you. It's about 

the collective You're assuming. Health. You're assuming. You're assuming because somebody can take the vaccine, won't get COVID, which by the way, I don't need to play the clips for you to see it where everybody said, hey. If you get it, you're not gonna get if you take the vaccine, you're not gonna get a Rachel Maddow, Joe Biden. I can give you Fauci. I can give you and you've seen these clips before. It's not like you've never seen it before. Yeah. What happened? They were wrong. Hold on. So so, the strain evolved, okay, 

so that the vaccine that prevented you from catching COVID was tuned to the variant of COVID at the time the vaccine was denied what was designed. Okay? Over time, there were variants that arose. The vaccine provided partial protection against the new variants Everyone witnessed what a straw man is. Dying, statistically, and to basically keep you out of the hospital. Alright. Well, first of all, I wanna say I thought Patrick did a pretty good job in this interview. If you watched the whole thing, he's a great interviewer. I have been 

on his show, Valuetainment, and, he does a great job. But this isn't his wheelhouse. It's not his specialty. Doesn't focus on it almost every week the way I do. And so I just wanted to throw in a couple thoughts. And first of all, I gotta say, kneel. Come on. Kneel. Kneel. Kneel. Kneel. We're talking about science here. And some of the statements you're making, I'm shocked. I mean, if I was watching this having been an interview that took place, you know, back in, like, early, you know, twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, Maybe. But it's amazing you're making these statements now. 

It really makes me wonder. But let's just deal with a couple of points you're making. Number one, he says, what now the wind was tested. And this is exactly because, I mean, Patrick makes the point like it doesn't stop. Of course, it does. Of course, it does. And so I wanna point out, Neil, I think the most important thing is no matter what your belief is on what it is doing, the FDA got an emergency use authorization bailed out of the trials early. Just as Patrick pointed out, should have been five to ten years long. Instead, they just truncated that and, you know, unleashed this on the population. But this is what the FDA said when it was, was it effective? Well, when we were asked, you know, was it effective? We knew this before anyone outside the trials got it. Data are limited. This is vaccine effectiveness against transmission. 

Unknown benefits and data gaps. This is the FDA saying it themselves. Data are limited to assess the effect of the vaccine against transmission of SARS CoV two from individuals who are infected despite vaccination. They were incapable of having a trial. Did it in that short period of time, this nine months you seem really confident about was not long enough to determine, first of all, whether it's safe, and second of all, whether or not even does the job a vaccine is supposed to do. Okay? Now also, Patrick makes a good point. You're saying, well look, I mean this is what the body of science is saying. If we have a social contract, we're supposed to just hand our lives over to the body of science that understands this. But Patrick pointed out you have like sixteen thousand doctors that disagreed around the world, world renowned scientists, and I'm talking about the great Barrington declaration. They were screaming from the mountain tops. Everybody stop. Stop listening to Fauci. Stop the lockdowns. You're gonna have suicides, alcoholism, 

all the different issues. Look at the amount of signatures. Nine hundred fifty three thousand total concerned citizens, eight hundred and seventy one thousand medical practitioners, now forty seven thousand three hundred and seventy nine jumping on and saying, woah, everybody slow your roll. And so this other idea that now you wanna make an excuse. Now it's clear, I guess, to you that the vaccine isn't stopping transmission, but it was when they released it. You're wrong, you said. You're telling Patrick as though, you know, you don't understand. It was variance. It was variance that was, you know, that changed everything, that it was perfectly effective when it was for the Wuhan virus, but it, you know, had variance and now it doesn't work as good. But the truth is is that and and you pointed this out very early on that this isn't your specialty, so let's talk about someone whose specialty it is that looks at barriers. And I'm talking about Geert van den Bosch who's been on the show multiple times. He started screaming from the rooftops, and maybe you should have sat down with him saying that if we deliver this vaccine, a leaky vaccine that will not stop transmission in the middle of this epidemic. 

We will cause variants we can't stop and make it impossible to get the herd immunity. It would be great if he was wrong. It'd be great if he could say, see, it didn't happen, but everything he said did. We can't get to herd immunity. We're not getting there. And Rachel Walensky is admitting that in a recent tweet. This is what she said about the current state of the vaccine program and these these various. We can't. Let me make this clear. We can't stop the spread of COVID nineteen. But departure testing the requirement to show a negative test result when flying from China to the US can help slow the spread as we work to identify and understand any potential new variants. They can't stop it. The technology didn't work and none of the boosters she's not saying, but the booster's gonna save us. She can't even say that because this entire thing is such a disaster. 

And now we have mainstream media starting to look into what the high wire covered with Geert van den Bosch years ago. We are now starting to see headlines like this, Neil. Are vaccines fueling new COVID variants? The virus appears to be evolving in ways that evade immunity. We have never seen a virus mutate this fast and evolve this fast. And certainly, Neil, you must understand the concept of evolution and how pressure upon anything in nature can cause an evolution, 

especially when you have everyone that's under attack everywhere. When we're all catching the virus and you have a vaccine that even if it did work doesn't have time to ramp itself up. So you're only getting half of maybe the protection it was even capable of doing. And so now you have all of these mutations being caused by the vaccine program. By the way, you're gonna say my social contract is to not put you in danger. How about your social contract? Your vaccine may very well be the reason that we all keep catching coronavirus because it has been a disaster and is driving variants if you look at the history and the science around this. And so all of that and to say, you know, wow, well the CDC and the FDA, we should hand our lives over to them. You mean a group of people that don't fix a problem when they see it, but actually just change the definition? Because by the way, your whole concept of vaccination, the rug has been cold pulled right out from under you. What am I talking about? They changed the definition. Once the vaccine didn't do what it was supposed to do, they ended up changing it. This is what it used to be. We all grew up with this concept. A vaccination is the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce 

immunity to a specific disease. This is the world you were living in, Neil, a long time ago, but it doesn't exist anymore. Because now all a vaccine can do is the act of introducing a vaccine body to produce protection from a specific disease. That's a big difference. That means you can carry this virus, you can catch it, you can give it to everyone you know, but at least you'll be protected. Forget about the naturally immune person whose body went and destroyed this virus. Had a couple of days, they probably weren't out walking around because they felt the virus. At least if it's as dangerous as you said it was, let's forget about the idea that so many people were handling this well. In fact, it was such a mild virus for the large part of the population that we were complaining about how many asymptomatic 

carriers that were out there. So when you wanna say, well, it reduces hospitalizations. Really? You mean because most people didn't feel it. And by the way, I didn't sign on to your social contract. I don't believe being born in the freest nation in the world means that I'm supposed to be injected like a farm animal as though I live under someone in China. So I didn't get it, and I had a very mild experience, and most of the people around me did. So there we have it. And when it comes to what this vaccine could and couldn't do, Deborah Birx, who worked for the government much closer to all the trials that were being done, this is what she's now saying about her knowledge, much different than your knowledge. Before there was ever variance, this is what Deborah Birx thought of the vaccine. 

I knew these vaccines were not gonna protect against infection, and I think we overplayed the vaccines. And it made people then worry that it's not gonna protect against severe disease and hospitalization. Oh, so I was supposed to sign a social contact contract with people that were lying to me. Is that it, Neil? Is that what we're supposed to be at? And by the way, in case there's any question left to whether or not it was variants and what they approved in this nine month trial, which was okay for you, not okay for me, and I'm gonna hold on to my right to choose while products are being rushed onto the market. But let's go ahead and look at what Pfizer finally admitted when being asked by a decent group of politicians that are asking the right questions in Europe. This is what they finally admitted about all the trials that you trusted so dearly that somehow this vaccine was gonna make sure that I didn't contaminate you. 

Well, did they know that? Did they even look for that? Here is the honest truth. The Pfizer COVID vaccine tested on stopping the transmission of the virus before it entered the market. If not, please say it clearly. If yes, are you willing to share the data with this committee? And I really want straight answer. Yes or no? And I'm looking forward to it. Thank you very much. Regarding the question around, 

did we know about stop and humanization before, it's entered the market? No. These, you know, we had to really move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place in the market. And from that point of view, we had to do everything at risk. Alright. Well, there you have it. That's Janine Small. That was the person I'm supposed to to put my hands, my body, and my life in her hands while she's not even looking the thing you thought she was looking for. So, Neal, we're in really shaky territory here, but you went on. So let's listen to what else you had to say on the topic. 

I'm trying to make a statistical pointer. Okay? If you say, I don't wanna take the virus because it hasn't been tested for five years, and there could be some long term side effect that worries me, okay? In that same moment, there's the risk factor of you getting COVID. Sure. Okay? Unvaccinated. Eighty at one point, eighty seven percent of everyone dying in the hospital of COVID 

was unvaccinated. Okay. So your risk choice is, I'm not gonna take it because maybe somewhere down the line something will happen and we don't know what that is, or I will risk getting COVID. And if I get COVID, depending on your age and other thing, there's a three percent chance of me dying in the hospital. That's your choice. I mean, it's really disappointing when a scientist that knows what he's gonna be interviewed on doesn't come in with the right stats, the right understanding of what's going on. But he condescendingly 

says says to Patrick, you know, if you have some long term concern, that shouldn't affect how we do this. I mean, that is what it is, but that's not actually science because you have some bizarre concern about the long term potential safety issues. But here's the point, Neil. It's not Patrick that had the concern. It's not Del Bixby that was the only one with the concern. The manufacturers themselves were concerned. So concerned that they demanded and said, we will not even put this vaccine out unless you protect us from liability. Look at what AstraZeneca admitted when they were trying to when Belgium was saying we're not going to stop, give you liability protection. AstraZeneca to be exempt from coronavirus vaccine liability claims in most countries. 

In an article, it went on to say this. This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk if in four years the vaccine is showing side effects, Rud Daubber, a member of Astra's senior executive team told Reuters. They were so sure that they did not wanna be responsible for this product if they weren't protected from what it could do long term that they wouldn't even give it to a country that didn't give them liability protection. So you want my social contract to be with a company that is gonna make tens of billions of dollars off a product, but will take on none of the liability 

because they're too concerned about the long term safety issues and can't be held responsible. Why? Because the trials were too short. That's the honest truth, Neil. The manufacturers knew the trials were too short, but not you And apparently not whatever planet you're focused on that seems to think we have a social contact contract to take rushed vaccines. And lastly, you're talking about hospitalizations and, you know, that the unvaccinated were hospitalized and you could die. You had a three percent chance of dying. It's just simply not true. 

John Ioannidis, one of the world's leading epidemiologist, has done multiple studies on this through the years. And what does he determine? It wasn't a three percent death rate. It was about point two seven percent across all demographics. Or if you break it down for everybody not above the age of seventy, zero to nineteen, you had a point zero zero two seven percent chance of getting of dying from this virus after you caught it. Twenty to twenty nine, zero point zero one four percent. Thirty thirty nine point zero one three percent. Thirty to forty nine point zero eight two percent. In fact, the only people that meet that three percent concern 

are the elderly over the age of seventy. And so okay. And many people even Malone, you mean for what it's worth said, if we were going to tell anyone they could get it or should get it, maybe it was the elderly. I don't know if I agree with that. I don't believe in having any products out there that have been properly safety tested. But, again, it's the United States of America and I believe in choice. And if you wanna take a risk with a product that we have no understanding of its long term effects, go right ahead. It's your choice. And you should actually consider yourself a part of this important trial, which is all that really did happen. We all became guinea pigs, 

this trial. And so when we break all of this down, why do I not believe I have a social contract? Because science has failed us so many times. Neil, do you really wanna live in a world where the manufacturers of the product that are the only ones actually doing the safety studies that will only tell you years later, oh, we never tested to see if the damn thing even worked. You want them to be you wanna trust I'm supposed to trust my life in their hands that they're doing the best work possible. Well, that is these are the same industries that created products like thalidomide. Can you imagine if everybody had to get something like thalidomide 

and then we end up having all of our babies be destroyed and looking like this. It's possible, Neil. It's possible. And there's no returning once the social contract says I have no way to opt out even if seventeen thousand doctors in the world are warning me we don't agree with Tony Fauci. There's also Vioxx made by Merck. It caused so many heart attacks. They lost over a three billion dollar settlement. And in the end, we knew that behind the scenes, low and behold, they didn't tell us the truth about safety. They knew that the product could cause heart attacks. I could go on and on with Johnson's baby powder and everything else. But the point is, Neil, if we have some sort of social contract simply by being born 

into the United States of America to allow companies that are now the number one lobby in Washington seem to have a revolving door in and out of our regulatory agencies are spending billions of dollars funding campaigns to presidents like Trump and Biden who maybe go to their cronies and say, hey, you know what? Even though it looks like this is only a death rate of about point two seven percent, we think if the government made an emergency, we could mandate this product on everybody even though it was never properly safety tested. And we will look at the history of this product prior to this really short human test. It was a disaster in animal trials. All the attempts at a coronavirus vaccine was written about and the immunopathology 

in the headlines were everywhere. Coronavirus vaccines, immunization with SARS coronavirus vaccine leads to pulmonary immunopathology on challenge with SARS virus. Meaning, it looked like the vaccine was helping the virus infect the host. And there was nothing in the EUA by the FDA that figured out and said, we got around this issue about they admitted, when it comes to enhanced disease, we don't know if the vaccine is gonna do that. This is what science is all about, Neil. It's about a conversation. 

And when you have censorship by a very small group of well funded scientists against tens of thousands around the world saying we should have a voice when they're censoring the body of science, I don't feel comfortable. And I believe that people are intelligent enough to make their own decisions and we should never have a product that is forced on anybody. And that's exactly what we learned from the Nuremberg code. After Nazi Germany, we said never again is a government gonna force any medical procedure or product onto free citizens. 

Certainly not in the United States of America. So I don't know what social contract you signed on to. I did not. And lastly, you make a really good point, and this is what I wanna talk about. Are you for scientific debate? So in a scientific debate, here's how that unfolds. I'm in conversation with you. Let's call it a debate. We know, you and I know walking into that room, either I'm right and you're wrong. K. You're 

right and I'm wrong or we're both wrong. We know that in advance. So we start having the conversation, well, what about these data? What about these data? I think those datas are flawed and here's why. Well how about this? Yes, that's a debate. But you know how that debate ends? It depends where, you know, we need this new data set to resolve this difference. Now let's go have a beer. I have never seen that happen in a political debate. Alright, Neil. I mean, here's the point. Should we have a debate? I wanna have a debate. I know that you think you're right, and I think I'm right based on things like what exactly the FDA said when they released this on everybody. You said that nine they did, dude. They did prove that it worked. Really? On who? On who? On everybody? On everyone in the world? Because this is what the EUA said, Neil. 

We did check the source. We did take the primary source, which was Pfizer's, experimental vaccine data that was submitted to the FDA for their emergency use authorization. And what did it say under, section eight point four unknown risks, data safety gaps in certain subpopulations, there are currently insufficient data to make conclusions about the safety of the vaccine in subpopulations, such as children less than sixteen years of age pregnant and lactating individuals and immunocompromised individuals. So there you have it. These trials didn't include anybody with any issues. I think it's said that nearly fifty percent of Americans have, 

some form of an immunodeficiency issue or an immune problem. So you're gonna take a total experimental immune product that was never tested in people that have problems with their immune system. And then just say, hey, it was safe for the Justice League, the healthiest people who could find that weren't allowed to drink, weren't allowed to have intercourse. Gotta ask ourselves why weren't they allowed to have intercourse and all those things. But because the healthiest little group that we looked at, now everybody can get it. Those that are obese, have diabetes, all those other issues. Neil, that is so 

dangerous, man. We are talking about the most reckless way science could possibly act. And what would happen? Can you imagine? Maybe not this time or next time, but if we keep this social contract where the most powerful lobby in Washington that seems to be controlling governments all around the world and the WHO keeps putting products out that haven't properly safety tested? Can you imagine if one day we're all given a vaccine that causes, you know, I don't know, like sudden death? Things like blood clots and and thrombocytopenia 

and and myocarditis and periocarditis. And and over years, they start getting cancers from these things. Can you imagine if that happened? What would the world look like? Yes. Doctors are baffled. Huge rise in all cause mortality. So lastly, Neil, I wanna say this. I've had debates before with great individuals And, you know, even Alan Dershowitz, you know, I've I've debated this topic with him. We were friends afterwards. And so I wanna say this, Neil, 

I'm all about getting a beer. Let's do it. But first, I'm asking you to come on to the high wire. And by the way, I just showed you a bunch of my cards. You get to study many of the things that I've said. You can even go back and watch my shows. So come in prepared and let's have a real debate. And by the way, don't go off half cocked again. You are really starting to make me concerned about the state of all science. I used to believe in you. I trusted you. If you will just take people's word for it, I mean, is all science just reading the cliff notes of what scientists before them actually said? It's time to do your due diligence, 

and then come on the high wire. I'm looking forward to it. Del is looking forward to it. We'll have to see what happens. Oh, man. The what an absolute fucking mess. Excuse my language here, but this one's an absolute mess. So he doesn't really understand what a social contract is. He built a straw man around being the variance with the reason for the fact that the vaccine didn't stop transmission when it's been admitted by Pfizer's unmarked representative market representative to say, well, we never even tested for that in the first place. 

So and Deborah Birx also admitting to the fact that these were never designed to stop transmission, and she knew that from the get go, that was not going to be an issue or not gonna be something that's a reality with these vaccines. Let's see. He mentions eighty one to eighty sevens. It was either eighty one percent or eighty seven percent, were unvaccinated. Although adjusted for population, recent data has come out, And those data suggests that the un that the vaccinated are dying at higher rates than the unvaccinated, and that's adjusted for population groups to mean that's not just because more people have been vaccinated. 

So that's also a serious issue as well as what's not being counted. Part of that was SADS, sudden adult death syndrome, the rise in cardiovascular issues, myocarditis, pericarditis, cardiac arrest. We saw last week with Demar Hamlin. Still don't know his condition. We don't know if he is vaccinated yet, but just something to be concerned about. We already saw I think it was through Christy Lee, the number of individuals that also have continued young individuals that continue to suffer heart effects and may or may not have been vaccinated. So we're just seeing a pattern here that could lead to a potential hypothesis that could be tested. 

Again, continuing on with this, the the thing I think that frustrated me were two things here. That those data he chose to represent the either the eighty one or eighty seven percent, that's very much in question because that's ever being debated. He mentioned, well, we can argue our two different data or multiple various data sets, and we can have a beer. Fair enough. We'll see if that actually comes manifest. He didn't mention the fact that the majority of the individuals that dying early on from COVID were had at least two or more comorbidities with obesity being the number one. And the fact that it was mainly a disease afflicting the elderly 

and, the the elder of our society. So he met you know, he didn't qualify that. He just went into this very broad general statistical category that has me and the unvaccinated that were dying. So I found that to be very curious. Didn't seem to really promote any sort of other forms of, con or consider any other sort of therapeutic options or even just general health, in regards to eating well, in regards to exercising, so forth and so on. Let's go to the social contract because this one's a big one. 

So, you know, he's supposedly a scientist. He parrots the relativity field relativism relativity theory made famous by Einstein, which is in and of itself quite problematic, but this isn't a show discussed as many of the issues that have been, you know, born out or bore out by many scientists as of recent in regards to many of the contradictions inherent with that model. Four dimensional space time model oftentimes represented as a, ironically, as a two d plane that gravity sort of warps 

this this this field is called space and time, but won't go down that road. So he sort of is your standard pair for modern sort of cosmology. Fine. Whatever. That's he he's a caricature. He's he's has a he's quite as a he has quite a, vivacious personality. Do you ever read Degrass Tyson's, PhD thesis? No. Alright. So basically, you get your PhD thesis. You not only have to like study under another PhD and there's that whole racket that goes on. But you have to add something new to the contribution of science. You have to defend it too. You have to go up in front of other right. Go ahead. What's the easiest thing to defend? 

Something way, way far away you can't verify. So instead of working on some sort of Earth knowledge, he went to, like, theories about black holes and stuff you can't ever prove. So So something that has no spatial volume is sucking in all this spatial mass. I just find that to be an inherent contradiction. And then it's sucking in all the light. So how can Gravity sucks, though. And how can you call it a hole? You know, these that's why philosophy, science is in need of philosophers because they set the parameters and the types of questions that can be asked that aren't in contradiction with nature. But, you know, deGrasse Tyson is famous for saying 

philosophy is dead. We'll never It's it's only for the realm of scientists now. Their philosophy is more of just a historical artifact. We don't need it anymore. This is Neil deGrasse Tyson, everyone. Yeah. Let's see. It's he's quite the, you know, what's the word I'm looking for? But erudite, precocious, man of the really anyway. Our audience is erudite. I don't know. I don't know. I'm trying to be a little bit. He's pompous. And absurd and pompous. Narcissistic. Yeah. Overly exuberant about little knowledge on the facts. Alright. So there's a couple different things. First off, 

it's hilarious watching him blow up and Patrick just sits there and chills. He's like, Dude, the science and the system and the authority. And Patrick's like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. And Patrick's like, this is great. Keep going. Keep going. And he's, like, you know, talking down to him. And I think Patrick's a lot smarter than Neil deGrasse Tyson, Oh, yeah. Which is ironic. Neil deGrasse Tyson, I don't think is very intelligent. Sorry, guys. So he's sitting there acting like, the third rail version of Ye on the other side of the tracks. Right? If you had two third rails, you have like, well, you'd have two thirds of a rail. So he's over there grabbing it. He's shocked. Oh, he's all 

energized up. He's very emotional for a physicist. That's what I notice right there. The next part is, what I'm seeing there with deGrasse Tyson is it's like a sad juxtaposition of the Dunning Kruger effect intersecting with the Murray Gell Mann effect. And to, enlighten you on that effect, let's go to Michael Crichton. Briefly stated that Gell Mann amnesia effect is as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray's case, physics. In mine, show business. You read the article and see the journalist has no understanding of either the facts or the issues. 

So you're you're incredulous of it because you know about the topic. But all these other topics you read about, you don't know about, so you believe them. That's the gist. Often the article is so wrong, it actually presents the story backwards, reversing the cause and effect. I call these the wet streets cause rain stories. The paper's full of them. In any case, you read with exasperation or amusement the multiple errors in a story and then turn the page to a national or international affairs and read it as if the rest of the newspaper was somehow more accurate about Palestine 

than the baloney you just read. You turn the page and you forget what you know. Well, I think that there's a lot of forgetting what he should know there. I mean, either he's not up to speed, and Rogan and Patrick Bet David are better researchers, and neither one considers themselves researchers. They're just influencers with audiences that do Hey, Jamie. Jamie, look it up real quick. Jamie. Right. You can just pull up that website for me. Like, go to the CDC or something. I don't know. Go to Snopes. Go to Snopes. You know, just check it out. He did that the other day, actually. Right. But they're still, like, miles ahead. Yeah. They are. And then they're also entertaining the censored forum of, 

whistleblowers, Malone, McCullough, all these sorts of people get to go on, a Rogan show or a Dell Big Tree show or one of these shows that's not Neil deGrasse Tyson. You know? Who gets to go on Bill Maher and infect a bunch of people with unrealisms. And then they think because the authority, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, said this thing that they should trust their lives to that authority. And he has I mean, you know. A huge following. It's the king of fallacies where they they assume, 

the advericundium that they assume the the authority can step in in place of evidence or reason or arguments. And he didn't really present many good arguments there. He didn't understand what a social contract is. Doesn't know that that concept comes from Hobbes and made popular by Rousseau. And there's many different theories around how we sign a, quote, unquote, social contract, but America's quite different from the way he was describing the idea of a social contract. Those same individuals in regards to public spaces have the right to take on the risk of being, 

to exposing themselves to a public space whether or not they're aware of being infected or not infected with the virus. So to everyone assumes their own risk by walking outside of their house and entering a public space, and it's not anyone's you don't have some sort of greater good mindset that you're supposed to force upon them that they have to, in order to occupy that space, take an experimental medical procedure so they might not potentially infect someone else. That's up to the other individual as to the relative risk they wanna take by knowing that there may be people that may or may not be infected with it. So it's a very different idea of social contract. It's not one that's very prescriptive. It's very much the other way around where we just see it over the idea that there's a there's a government that's supposed to protect the individual rights, not prescribe what those rights are to us, Neil. So are you aware of the different theories surrounding social contract? You're using it as a totalitarian would use the concept 

of, of social contract and and inalienable rights. It also makes me wonder if he's part of this sort of clown world of the effect of altruism that Elon Musk and Peter Singer and Will McCaskill and, SBF and all these various individuals seem to be a part of where all these, you know, woke scientists seem to be on in the they in club in regards to the greater good, long termism. They've now, you know, rebranded utilitarianism just to call it effective altruism. So if he is if he's a part of that, it would make sense because that's where essentially you have authority that prescribes to you what are and are not your rights, then that's what he calls in a social contract. So talk about just but then again, 

philosophy doesn't mean anything arrogant. By Pfizer. What a fucking oh, man. That He's a sophist. He's a sophist and and a partial solipsist. He just Yeah. Make up make it up as he goes. I also have this on screen, Dunning Kruger effect in case you missed the other, you know, the the the setup for Murray Gell Mann effect. It's Dunning Kruger, which is like a punch line in and of itself. The Dunning Kruger effect is a cognitive bias that people have whereby 

people with low ability expertise or experience regarding a certain type or lack of area of knowledge, tend to overestimate their ability in that knowledge. I don't have my glasses on, so trying to make fun of somebody for being maybe I should put my glasses on. Anyway, the point is I think we just heard from You think you're you know more. And when you'd know more, you actually understand how how little you know. No. My my point is I was gonna double down and say, you know, it's it's Neil and De Grasse with the the cock of Pfizer compelling him. Let the cock of Pfizer compel you. That's what he's up to, dude. And I I think that, that's what some people say. I'm not saying that myself. I mean, but there there's that scuttlebutt out on the street. 

And, it's particularly around the equator of the ablate spheroid. So it's it's not something from North America. Is that the grass, like, laced with mRNA? You know? Yes. The grass he might be smoking. Right. Sometimes his the grass is laced with the PCP. And it comes from the bottom of that oblate spheroid, I imagine. It's all a I'm not forget it. We can't go down that tangent. We need to go to arrowid dot com, start verifying some chemical compounds. 

You know, oblate spheroid is into the banisteria opsis cop eye and the psychiatry is Viridia. And, together he has himself a little concoction made from the vines. He has that milky substance and the MAOI inhibitor and has himself a nice trip down the Covey river. I don't know what he does over there. I mean, he's in the studio with Rogan where they have the psychedelic honey and all these touchstones of the world and he just ignores them all and he's like, Hey, here's what's going on from science's perspective. He's 

like the modern version of Bill Nye, the science guy. He's like, I am the physics. I am the oblate spheroid. Jay Gould (3five thirty three): Right, literally. He's like the Anthony Fauci of modern cosmology. Plato's forms now include the oblate spheroid. I checked it. They updated the definition. Plato had to change his entire theory and realize there's one imperfect form. Sponsored by the DeGrasse Tyson Foundation, sponsored by Pfizer. Yeah. I mean, this the the the beginning when he said that to Strahl meant about variants, like, they were never tested 

even with the original Alpha strain to, in regards to whether or not they stopped transmission. But he seems so certain. That's drop me. I know. See, that's a He says it with such certainty, Tony. That's a sign of a good soft. I have to wonder. The sign of a good softest. You know, he just he gotta exude bullshit and confidence when you know you're absolutely cornered and you don't know anything. But he's a scientist, so he's of that, you know, secular priest realm of science. Tag team with him and Fauci on the same side versus, like, Rogan and Aaron Rodgers on the other side, maybe. 

I would pay for I don't watch like UFC or football at all, but I would totally trade in my Fizer biscuits for that. Aaron Rodgers is pretty well read. He presents some interesting books to old Pat McAfee. And, he has, Don't teach your players to read. What are you guys doing? Taking on Ayahuasca. He's a very interesting fellow, Aaron Rodgers. Ayahuasca. I didn't even bring that up. So that's just Oh, bad. Supernasty with this guy. It's it's a combination of I I said a recipe. I didn't go to the conclusion of what it makes. But Aaron Rodgers probably knows that. 

I'll leave it there. So, yeah, that's the softestry one zero one. One of the great aspects of softestry you can see it right there is the ability to exude confidence, particularly in situations where you know you're talking out of your asshole, which is basically the bottom of the oblate spheroid is what I'm calling. Wow. I was gonna ask how does one do that, but then I thought I'm not really interested in the answer. I already heard him talk. So moving on. And maybe he'll get a beer with Del Big Tree. We'll have to see. I mean, there's a lot of views going on in that clip. I mean, I thought Patrick Bet David's four hours with Andrew Tate got a lot of views, but, you know, upload late Spheroid, 

is making the rounds. And there's a lot of clips from that interview. Like I said, I've only seen a couple, but there's a hour long conversation where they didn't get along like that. PVD reminds me, like, you wanna see true confidence versus fake confidence. You see it fake confidence of Blade's steroid. PBD, calm, cool, collected. He's not stepping outside of what he knows. He's asking very competent questions within what he's able to understand, knowing where it may not, you know, where it may go beyond his, experience and expertise. Shout out to PVD. He made calm, and that's, the and he didn't flinch. You know? He didn't really it didn't get to a situation where he don't because he's well trained. Yeah. Exactly. He's used to being in front of people like that. He's trained like a fighter is trained. 

This person gets all emotional. You don't get emotional with them. But the rookies, the amateurs, the people who don't, they do. They they oh, you let me get you know, it's all of a sudden, it's a it's a it's a big deGrasse Tyson contest. And, you know, you don't wanna be whipping out your deGrasse Tyson and looking like some Martin Luther King monument in the middle of a boardroom. So keep it cool. Gotta be careful, Cornpop. I heard his name was Tyrone. I don't know what you're talking about. 

I've not seen- There's a depiction. Paul Moore (3one forty three): I've not seen any means. Paul Moore (3one forty three): I'm Martin Luther King, but you know. I've been busy working. I made a workshop on mindset. I did not see any memes this week. Martin Luther King. I mean, honestly, Martin Luther King today would be canceled. The world Well, first off, the government shot him. So he kinda wasn't The FBI. That's true. Yeah. There's yeah. And they will cover up his Epstein client list. They killed Martin Luther King. I know that's a spoiler for some of you, but they also killed Bobby Kennedy's dad. What was that? And he killed his uncle, JFK. That's true. Just to name a few, the, you know, the big hits back in the day. That is absolutely true. What was the CIA's greatest hits. That's an awful album. Someone by the content of one's character, not by the color of one's skin. Boy, he would be canceled so quickly. Because isn't today the postmodern credos from Always Woke Moms to judge someone purely based on 

their sex identity or their gender identity or an ethnic identity or all these other, you know, victimized, marginalized groups that, you know so that's sort of a Marxist credo, but in the culture realm instead of the economics realm. So that's, it definitely I don't know how popular good old Martin Luther King would be today. But, you know, they really did such a great job of, Come on, man. He'd have twelve million followers on Twitter. Any Kaz, you know, it's the dedication of that monument sort of speaks volumes to, 

not only the state of modern art, but the, consideration there they actually give to honoring someone who actually did great service to mankind in general. That's, oh, boy. Yeah. I'm all for art. And when you're trying to memorialize the memory of a famous freedom fighter, my expectations aren't aren't high, but I do expect at least like it to be art. And that just looks disturbing. And I don't know of any art that I've ever seen and classified as art, which was 

disturbing like that. Tyler Cowen (3five thirty three): I agree. Paul Jay (3five thirty four): And I've seen, the art exhibit where they put the shit on the Virgin Mary over in Brooklyn twenty years ago. Like that was a big deal. Oh, look at these people. Okay. That at least is some sort of expression. I I don't know what this other thing is. Yeah. That's the thing. I mean, I have some, an interesting description. Disembodied arms? Is it Jeffrey Dahmer's leftover sketches? What's going on over there, man? And why does everything look like a penis from ten different angles? I know. That's what I first thought is, like, is it a form of sodomy? I can't because I didn't know what it was before. I didn't even know it was a dedication to The clouds that's something that we're doing. Thing because I just saw it, And I was like, why does it like, is there a depiction of that going on? 

And my girlfriend's like, no. It's an it's honorary statue for monument towards doctor It's just Davos, baby. And I was just like, oh, this this is as bad as, well, for Martin Luther King, he deserves much much better than, what modern art has to offer him in regards to honoring his life and legacy. Oh, wait. There there is a breaking there's a breaking from, Davos. Let's go to the World Economic Forum. Found a copy of the real virus. Now we don't have to wonder where the strain came from. 

It looks like the Gates, Sorel, Fauci, Schwab strain. And of course, you have to test for it, near the taint with an anal swab sponsored by Albert Boortain Borla. Now if that's too many inside jokes for you, you just need to watch more than one episode of this podcast. We'll catch up quick. They use the promise software. This is saying these memes are saying that chick is the f FTX SPF girlfriend chick. I don't know who that it is. Carolyn Ellison or whatever. Right. I don't know because there's a bunch of memes with her. If you just go to Sally's page here. 

There's probably ten. But you know, what like, it's her and her boyfriend at a bar, and they're smiling at the camera. And it's like, when these people sit next to you at a bar, be careful. There's a whole bunch of them today. I don't think that this person is necessarily SBF's former girlfriend, Ellison. No. I think she looks Ellison as much. Much. Tyler Lindholm (3one forty three): Yeah. Hairline, hair pulled back. I could see similarity. And that kind of makes it funny unless people take it serious. And then I don't like that stuff. So we'll see. Okay. Tyler Lindholm (3one forty three): Humor, humor though. I 

know what they're making fun of. Why don't you cover Epstein's client list? Yeah. You know, where is that client list? Have we seen that lately? How many billionaires is this? Should a great, Maddie Banda run a great, book club this past Friday. We covered Wexner's philanthropic activities. Scott Raider must have broke the rules on Twitter. Talking about Ukraine. Starlink. Starlink sponsors Ukraine. We can't talk about that. Ukraine is like Fight Club. You can't talk about that outside of Ukraine 

and Starlink land. What's the first rule? Don't don't leak personal data and location to kill people with drones with Starlink and then complain about people. No. That was a different rule. Mhmm. Something else. Don't leak location data of, Elon Musk, then don't leak Starlink for Ukrainian soldiers that have pretty much fled the, front line through the war and now are using NATO forces and are also being trained. New forces from Ukraine are being trained in America, apparently. So that's always good to continue, You know what NATO is like? NATO is like if you had two guys that wanted to rip off a bank, but they ran to the bus and told everyone they were going to the hockey game or something and filled up the bus, and they robbed the bank. And I was like, hey. You guys are on board. Right? We're invading Russia. 

You guys you guys know. Right? Y'all sorry. Sorry. You thought we were going to the hockey game? Now we're invading Russia. Something like that. Yeah. Because a bunch of those countries in NATO have really nothing to do with much other than they they give some stuff, they give some resources, they give territory to put US missiles on Right. To encroach on Russia. But they've added, like, I don't know, thirteen countries closer to Russia since the nineties when they said they wouldn't. Because a couple of this joined. I think Finland or some other, like, the Scandinavian bloc. Couple just popped on. They're like, oh, hey. This is going on. Like, count us in. It's like, what? Meanwhile, someone at Spectre is stroking their pussy and saying, oh, it's going recording the plan. 

Oh, there. That's, Spectre aside, the aerosolized vaccine that we're talking with Huff about. There's a new movie called Glass Onion. It's like a modern version of Clue. And then one of the first scenes before you can go to Ed Norton secret island, he's a billionaire, like Bezos type character. You have to get an aerosolized vaccine sprayed in your mouth by some spook who puts a gun up to your mouth, puts it up to your head, says open your mouth, and then shoots something inside. 

The first five people don't say anything about it and only the James Bond character, Daniel Craig. Daniel Craig, yeah. He asked a question but then immediately, kowtows to the alpha Takes it. And takes it. Yeah. Yeah. And I just thought that's an interesting normalization because there's nothing to aerosolized vaccines, but they're going to have them in a couple years and you should be willing to take it without question. But there's nothing to that, and that's a conspiracy theory. Double thinkers. Very fun. By Andrew Huff because because it makes a lot of sense in regards to the ability to facilitate 

aerosols in the environment local environment. It's a much much easier and cheaper way to, you know, deliver the product. Okay. Now I I wanted to say it during the interview, but I also wanted to respect his time. And so I didn't say, Amazon has these patents for these flying drone motherships that fly at thirty thousand feet with, like, two thousand drones, and they can deploy those over a stadium to deliver your con you know, your drinks. Concession stand from the sky is what they're telling you it's for. But what do you think a guy like Bezos does when he has flying super fortresses of armed drones 

with the capacity like make Spector's plans look like, you know, a kid playing with the BB gun compared to nuclear weapons. Kinda reminds me, I mean Maybe he's a good guy. What is it? The Terminator three, which is a bad film. But what did Skynet do? It disguised itself like a virus in order to make the the the, you know, researchers, the DOD essentially to upload the virus to all the military bases. And then it went live, and then so it disguised itself as the very thing that then it was used as the Trojan horse to get into all the systems 

by the use of humans saying, like, oh, we need to go live with Skynet in order to, like, stop this virus attacking our systems. That's actually the thing that's doing. It's sort of like an analogy for what's going on here, guys. You know, when it says that it Well, I was gonna say it's a perfect segue for chat GPT. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good Which I do not have down here on the computer. Otherwise, I'd just show it to you guys. But we'll have to tease it tonight, and you guys will have to go to OpenAI and surf around and find yourself a playground or a sandbox or something that goes on with that. It's a thing and 

it's been long time in the coming. These types of wishes that they're delivering on now have been around for twenty years. They didn't have the data. So So they had some algorithms twenty years ago, but they didn't have enough datasets to make it smart like it is now. How did we bridge that gap between the year two thousand, two thousand and one early on to twenty twenty three? What happened in between? Oh, the AI needs data to chew on. How are we going to get everyone's data? Well, 

they're pretty privacy minded about it right now. Let's give them Facebook. Let's take that DARPA project, Lifelog, put this Zuckerberg in charge of it, and all of a sudden you got almost everybody's everything. But then there's this other thing Steve, Jobs is working on. And if we could put one of these things in everyone's hand, we could track their everything, and then we'd have cameras and microphones, and they would take it around with them. We wouldn't have to bug them. And they're like, that's a pretty good idea. Oh, and they can interface with that thing called LifeLock that now has been rebranded as Facebook. That's not rebranded as Meta. How can you do that? And then they said, we're gonna need a place to store all this data. And GCHQ and NSA are like, we got you covered. We got this multi terabyte, whatever, gigabyte center that could it's good for the next hundred years, kids. Everybody's everything for the next hundred years. 

Utah data center NSA. So now they got the algorithm. They got the storage. They got your unwitting participation in surveillance capitalism to fill it up for the past twenty years. And now they bring out chat GPT. And they say, Hey, we've taken all the text you guys have typed in the past twenty years and all the voice and all the data, and we've given it to these algorithms that we designed. Right? So they're not conscious, but we don't know what consciousness is yet and we've been fucking with it for a long time. So at some point, not so smart people here among us 

are gonna create something that far surpasses our capacity and they're not gonna know how to shut it off. And then they're gonna come to the rest of us and say, oh, shit. We fucked up. No. Wait. Wait. Wait. They would cover it up in profit to the nth degree, lie to us to the very end, which is what they did in the pandemic. So we know they're good at. They've done it recently. They could still do these sort of things. So chat GPT, is it a career killer? Is it the apocalypse? Is it the Armageddon? Or is it maybe your opportunity to ten x your productivity, to leverage new technology, to serve more people, to deliver more plans of action so people can get more things done, and spend less time doing boring things like writing an outline, 

and more time, like, doing the research and then filling it in. So I see upsides and downsides. I agree. I don't think we should be ignorant of it. I think it's going on. We're here at the point in history. It's like, you know, everyone's in buggy and horse and buggies, and we just saw the first car go by. And by the way, the first cars were battery powered and electric. The first Porsche was an electric Porsche, but Rockefeller came along with gasoline, made everyone a deal they couldn't refuse. And now they're tied to that game. Of the Yeah. Too much freedom with it. Combustion engine. Well, yeah. And it's just more efficient, at least at the time. 

Too much productivity. Because China's, like, ten x is our pollution, and they're super productive because they have fossil fuels and coal power plants. I'm not afraid to use it. Electricity. Worse than they enslave their population too, essentially. So let's play a couple clips. I think the first clip that made it out into the public. So, OpenAI created Chat GPT. It's been available for about a month. We've been looking at it for about a month, looking at all these different scenarios. Lots of use cases, kids. Lots of use cases. 

Very interesting opportunity. Is it a trap? Also question. So let's look at the first, notice of this was who was it? Bret Weinstein with Joe Rogan? Yeah. We could do that. Kind of conversation? Yeah. Let's go back. I think it's just a couple weeks ago. And then there's more, recent ones people. I mean with Jordan Peterson talking about a good one about it. Even, Rick Beato. Again, he's a music guy, but he did a really good segment on, like, the future of it as well. So there's a lot of people talking about from a lot of different areas, a lot of different, you know, interests and expertise. And my buddy who works in high level technology is saying they've used it for network security to write code in high level network security and secure environments where it's it's like what he was terrified about is how efficient it was. It It actually works really well. You still need a human to go back and fix up little errors here and there, but it works really fucking well, especially for IT derived scenarios. 

That's and Rick Biyada points out works really well for coming up with if, you know, the lyrics weren't good, but it's still lyrics. You can and from this, you can probably ultimately imagine a program that'll be able to write music and do stuff like this. And what does this mean about the future of artists? So it it will expand into many areas of human value, you know, in human interest. So something to be aware of. Yeah. I was just gonna say the other part in the past twenty years that they've done, thinking back, to how they used to do it, because I was a director of sales for a startup artificial intelligence company, and what we could do back then is it could watch data and systems. It could learn what normal looks like, recognize 

abnormalities like someone trying to hack into your system. Here's signatures of what that looks like. It can recognize that behavior. Right? So what it couldn't do, so it could learn and deliver results and alert you like in a pager or a text or something. But it couldn't here's what they've done in the past twenty years. It couldn't communicate to you like a human. So now they do all that, plus there's a graphical user interface type of thing where you can chat back and forth and it represents itself as another human being. It can write stuff like it's your secretary. It can book stuff like it's this. It could do stuff over here like it's your editor. It could do stuff like over here like you're outsourcing code to India 

all from you with a keyboard and access to the Internet or even a phone and access to the Internet. That's what I'm gonna call it from now on because it's too there's too many people saying it. It's not a good name to say. So let's just call it Hal, and we're gonna refer to this AI system, whatever Jasper or any of these. It's Hal. And if you need a specific, we'll show you on on the web page. But I just don't feel like saying chat GPT any more than I have to. There's still philosophical concerns around whether, I think it's called what generalized artificial intelligence or something of that nature is even possible. And I I on the side of skepticism and caution in regards to we don't even have a good working theory of what emerges 

self reflective consciousness in the first place. So it to me, it just seems like a simulacrum or simulacrum, however you wanna pronounce that, but it's sort of a it's something that's very similar to this. Without understanding God. But it's not really Not gonna go well. It's not truly conscious in the sense of the way we are. And so but it's still highly efficient and it has computational powers for exceeding the human capacity, forth, and so on, but it still doesn't have that ability to conceptualize like we do. So it's still dependent upon the parameters of the programmers that designed the algorithm that does this quote, unquote self learning in the first place. Well, there's also, like emulates 

or creates a sim like a similarity or simulation of what a human would do, but not itself being of that conscious nature. What brings in the ethical concerns and I don't think these people are concerned with ethics. And here's kind of what I mean by that. I would argue on my side, you could learn more about the universe from a psychedelic trip than you're going to by experimenting with black holes at CERN. Oh, hundred percent. But they wanna do the thing that if they get it wrong, it fucks up everybody else. Whereas if you do, like, self responsibility, it's not hurting your neighbor. No one else is you know? So understand the universe from an individual perspective without infringing on the freedoms and the the futures of other people. 

The same thing with, like, a a time machine. They would want a time machine to go back and steal people's stuff. Right? And there will be a theory that if Tony creates time travel, the Pfizer in the future, the Northrop Grumman in the future knows Tony did that. They just swoop in and get it as soon as he does it. And he keeps failing and he doesn't know why, right? Whereas a philosophy of time travel cannot infringe on the causality of other people and can only be used within the confines of your own lifetime to self edit. Balance those ideas. It's a good metaphor for it. It's better than trying to blow up the whole with, the world with black holes and CERN and 

atom bombs and all these other neutron bombs. They just keep making more weapons till they fuck up the whole place. They are they are not constructive. They are purely destructive, and that shows ignorance, naivete, childlike mentality, extended adolescence, full of understanding. Of the fundamental nature of and principles of the love nature. Yeah. Yeah. Lack of love, lack of, you know, understanding of nature, philosophy, wisdom, ethics, metaphysics, you know, all the all the concerns that, you know, have been 

so ardently sort of what's the word I'm looking for? But worked out by so many impressive individuals that helped to create the situation to get us to this point where we have things like advanced technology, advanced science, you know, advanced communications of all sorts. And yet, like, we're acting like the ledger and children with it rather than being the custodians of, you know, knowledge sets that have been built up over time about trying to find out what who we are, where do we come from, and how where are we going, what are the conditions and parameters and principles of the universe, what what is the nature of consciousness, 

you know, what's the best way to, preserve individual rights and also honor the rights of other individuals? And and and how do I perform in, you know, groups, you know, as an individual and also as a group? All these, like, very important questions. And we just sort of throw it out the door and hand it over to scientisms and the leaders and the priests. Tyson. Like, the grassy He'll handle it. And they'll play spheroids and the Anthony Fauci's, you know, with his weasel ears and Yeah. It's a nice Jesuitical. Yeah. I am the I Well, I think it's saint science. I think they've moved them up a couple notches from one thing. Psalm candles. You know. They need, coins in the coffers over there at the Vatican, so they they opt them. You gotta you know, because you can just pay to become a saint. That's a thing. 

Maybe you can pay to be sold. Telescope. There was a pirate that became pope, like bought into the papacy, like he had enough money and they're like, okay, we'll take your money. And then the Medicis are like, what? You can you can buy popes? And then they bought two, Julius and Clement II, both of which dressed like Cellex. But that's a whole different conversation about what caused the Renaissance, y'all. But that's not this show. We don't have that show up and running. This is Grand Theft World. We're gonna keep talking about the facts of the blade spear spheroids and other things not in Plato's 

forms. Right? Because that's a good time. Plato's forms did not include oblate spheroids. No. No. Not at all. Justice, beauty, you know, unity, concepts of that truth, goodness. So, you know, what And then deGrasse Tyson. The forms. Those are essentially the forms. And then there's, you know, deGrasse Tyson. Yeah. I don't know if he fits in with the idea of unity and justice and beauty and and symmetry and, you know, ideas that make up what beauty is and rationality itself, which is conditioned by those and so forth and so on. So 

but, you know, you got Anthony Fauci, Neil deGrasse Tyson leading the public charge with knowledge and and science, I guess. Well, they blinded some with science, but we saw through it with Technocracy. Oh, Oh, boy. Sorry. I've been standing here for twelve hours. Things like that slipped out. My inner monologue editor stepped out. There's a 

little fat COVID. Look at the guy. He's pointing to you. He's like, Ah, you, selling you out to the Chinese, selling you out to the Ukrainians. He's a good guy, Former VP. I was just seeing if there's any more No. That's an interesting thing Yeah. Right. You can recall there. Yeah. Yeah. I was looking to see if there's any more Davos updates or Fauci drops because we've been going for a couple hours. A whole bunch of stuff has been going on tonight. We'll get to it next week in the episode, but I like to catch some of this stuff live. Sometimes I end the show and then I see what happened during the show. I was like, we could have covered it during the show, but we didn't look. And now Well, we got the mince. Will take a little bit of yeah. Yeah. I should do that during clips. I didn't usually I didn't used to have a monitor right here. A lot of people see me look up here. I'm just thinking when I'm looking up there. Now I do have a monitor that I can read from, history blueprint, 

browser, these sort of things. It's going to be more useful. All right. So, did we have a clip decided that we're gonna go to next? Because I know we bought we just messed up. I I sent LD the, chat what chat GPT. So this is, Joe Rogan speaking with Brett Weinstein. Alright. This is one of the original conversations, and we can move on from there and find, you know, a couple more recent clips if we're interested in sort of developing that further. Then I would say, dig if you will the picture of Brett Weinstein talking about chat GPT. Let's go to Joe Rogan and the Joe Rogan experience. 

See Prince callback. Got those butterflies all tied up. See if these doves cry. But I wanna talk about, chat GPT. Fascinating question. Yeah. Have you experimented with it at all? I have not, but someone, the gentleman who runs the, JRE companion page, made a rap with chat GPT. Like, was it was it if Kanye West wrote a rap for Chat GPT? They put it on Instagram? 

But it's, it's like, it seems like a person saying it. That's right. Either you are. I mean, it takes a long time. He I agree. His thing took like forty eight minutes to do. Well, whatever you wanna look up right now, we can do it. Yeah. The problem is you have to cajole it. It'll get something wrong and you have to listen to that. Well, listen to this. Explain what it is. So ChatGPT is a large language model trained artificial intelligence, which is, let's just say, it can be awful, but it is 

often surprisingly good at answering questions you might have about how to do things. One of the great triumphs of it is that coders are now asking it to solve coding problems, and it will actually write code that is functional. It it's pretty amazing. And it also there's a an implementation of it that if you feed it up to three tweets, it will write a New York Times story in one of five genres, you know, optimistic, 

pessimistic, neutral. And, you know, it's you don't really need the New York Times anymore because it's pretty good at this job, right? So, on the one hand, it's all very interesting that we're living in an era in which there is at least I mean, you know, and this is a prototype, right? This is a prototype that was specifically trained and then placed on the Internet so people could play with it. And I've seen lots of interesting, uses. It's gonna get better. Right? We're dealing with chat g p t three. There's gonna be a chat g p t four. But I have to say, 

I am quite alarmed. Not only that this thing exists, but I don't think we're ready for it. And I don't think we're ready for it in a couple different ways. I mean, if you wanna comfort yourself and say, well, this isn't that serious that we have this AI that can do these really shocking things. The the comforting thing is that the way it's programmed, it doesn't know what it's saying. It doesn't matter that it convinces you that it's 

saying something and it means it and, you know, that it seems like a creative entity. What it's doing is it is basically using a predictive model that has been trained on a huge dataset of written language. Right? So the answer is if, you know, you take three words in a row, can you predict what the next word is gonna be? And they've allowed it. They've exposed it to a large dataset, and it's gotten really good at predicting, basically, these sequences to the point that it can now if you're prompted correctly, it can spit out these, 

very long ex explanations. Some of them are dead wrong. Sometimes they're right on target. But I have two concerns about it. One, if you imagine that this thing just gets a little better than it is, which is inevitable. In other words, if you become expert at operating this thing, at querying it, and it becomes better at understanding a wider range of topics because they turn it loose on everything that's written on the Internet, for example. Right? Then the point is the ability to fake expertise 

is gonna go through the roof. I don't think we know how we're gonna police a world in which I mean, this is this problem is already bad enough. Most academics are fakers. They don't know that, right? They trained in something. They wrote a dissertation. They think they're experts. But you can see when something unexpected happens like the pandemic, you get just broad scale failure across entire disciplines where nobody seems to get it right. Right? 

So in that world, this is gonna be even worse because now you have some an artificial intelligence able to generate things in plain English that are often full of true information. But you don't know whether what generated it is some, you know, brain dead model or something else. That's one concern. And then the other concern is when we say, well, ChatGPT doesn't know what it's saying. It's not conscious. We know it's not conscious because it's not programmed to have a consciousness. 

We are actually ignoring the other half of the story, which is that we don't know how human consciousness works. I think it's clear that ChatGPT isn't conscious. It couldn't be. But it isn't clear to me at least that we are not suddenly stepping onto a process that produces that very quickly without us even necessarily knowing it. And what steps, if any, can be done to mitigate that at this point? 

Well, it's interesting. I I wrote a paper, which I never published anywhere, in twenty sixteen about this very issue. In fact, I used, basically the argument that you could you could attain artificial general intelligence by imbuing computers with a childlike play environment for language and then exposing them to a huge data set, which is not exactly what's happened here, but it's in the ballpark. And I would argue, and I did argue, 

that one needs to build a, an architecture in which this can't get away from you. Right? And so the architecture that I advocate for is actually a metamorphosis architecture, where metamorphosis is not allowed. It is an affirmative choice of humans. Right? In the case of GPT chat, you know, I think some of the, the artificial intelligence existential risk folks would tell you that one of the dangers 

is that the the chat, AI could convince you to do its bidding. Right? Right? As you said, when you were looking at this, it felt like a person. Right? And the point is, something that feels like a person can play on your emotions. Right? Can that be used to to cause a fail safe to be removed? Maybe. But in any case, this only deals with one of the two issues I'm raising, the question of actual artificial general general intelligence arriving, us not knowing necessarily that it has. 

Right? That's a frightening prospect. And in fact, I have a little thought experiment that might reveal why. But, the other issue is the issue of competence, where everybody is using this thing behind the scenes in order to say things that are beyond their own capacity to articulate. Right, then the world becomes some new kind of hall of mirrors. We we've had a hard enough time dealing with algorithms on, you know, on search and 

feed. This is a whole next level of difficulty in knowing where you are and who you're talking to and what it means and what their motives are. And, I think we ought to be on high alert. Whew. When you extrapolate, when you look at what this does and what it's capable of, and what I think what scares people is something that seems to be a person, but doesn't have any emotion, doesn't have any soul. It doesn't it's not us, 

but it behaves exactly as us. And then you can put it in a physical entity. So, if you have this chat d p GPT and then you extrapolate to version five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten to communicate with you, like ex machina, where it's exhibiting all of the behavior characteristics of a person, like, one of the most terrifying, that's one of my favorite movies of all time, I love that movie. One of my favorite movies of all time was when that guy who was brought in to, 

sort of run some tests on these artificial intelligence creations and determine whether or not they pass as human. What is that test called again? The, The Turing test? The Turing test. Yeah. And, he is in love with this woman. She's manipulated him to the point where he's aided her in her escape, and then she leaves him in that room with the bulletproof glass, and he's pounding on the glass, and she walks away with not a thought at all about him. 

It is the ultimate example of the worst case scenario of where this can go, where you have something that behaves exactly like a human being and knows how to play upon your sexual urges, your emotional desires, all of those different things that she plays upon, and then she just walks away from him and leaves him to starve to death in this fucking bulletproof room. Yeah. 

And, you know, I'm now recalling the film, and it's it's done very well because it manipulates you passively in your seat. Yes. Right? As it manipulates this character on the screen. And so you are betrayed too Yes. In this. You want to believe that it's emotional and it has none of that. You feel bad for this woman, who you think is a woman, who is, contained. And, you know, when she's saying to him, when the power goes out, don't trust him. And then, you know, the power comes back on, she behaves normally again, you're like, oh my God. Like, she's trapped. Right. Like this poor creature, 

they've made an an a person, essentially. And she has these thoughts and hopes and dreams, just like a regular person, but now she's trapped, and he falls in love with her. And even though he's seen her in her robot form, when she puts skin on and when she puts clothes on, when she's in front of him, he's in love with her. Right. And it, you know, again, it plays very well because, there's a manipulable circuit in straight men. Yeah. This particular narrative Right. You'd have to be a gay woman or a straight man Right. For it to trigger you. But, 

but a, part of this is actually inevitable in the Chatt GPT story. Because, especially to the extent that this is a mindless entity that doesn't know what it's doing. It's just striving to do it better. Yes. The tactics that work will register as, oh, you did it right. So to the extent that you have those vulnerabilities in you, and it finds them, and that works, then the point is reinforcement. Right? It scares us because it's not us, 

but it is us. Well because it's behaving exactly like us, but it doesn't have all the things that make a person a person. It doesn't have the biological vulnerabilities. It doesn't have the the the ability to actually sexually reproduce. It doesn't have emotions. It doesn't have all these different things that we like to think of. The soul. You you know, whatever that means. Whatever that term actually means. Yeah. But I'm worried about what could be generated. And I know that that sounds it will sound to a lot of people, especially technological people, like a biologist out of his depth. Mhmm. But I don't think so. This is a biologist trying to say something about the biology and what it applies 

about this analogous system. Anyway Yeah. We have we do have another clip, but let's break open what we heard. So he's a little concerned about the uses of it. Okay. Well, I'm concerned about like this is the tip of an iceberg. What's on the rest of the iceberg? This is what they're willing to show us and let us play with for free, knowing that we're probably the product and it's tracking what we're searching and all that fun stuff. I asked it, How do you free Ross Ulbricht? And it said, 

Ross Ulbricht is a federal incarcerated prisoner and he he can't be free. I was like, you're not thinking out of the box enough. You know? It could say. It had the option to say, here's how you go file a petition. Here's how you get strength in numbers. It didn't have anything useful. It gave me a very standard answer, almost as if it was programmed to not think about such things like that. Sure. Yeah. That makes sense. I mean, the parameters by which the algorithm operates probably only supports certain sort of knowledge environments 

or, you know, conditions of value. Like programming, for example, solving engineering problems. Like, those are where it probably exhibits the best functionality. But then when you ask questions of, you know, political social nature, I, you know, I I feel as though it's certainly being left behind in that realm because of the, you know, the importance from a monetary fiscal standpoint in regards to the returns one can get, the the functionality, the efficiency one can get, from the engineering and or, development 

sort of realm. So that's that's where I see it being most effective currently. Obviously, you know, as I point out, Rick Beato mentioned about the importance it could, you know or the tragedy rather because he looks at it as an a possible negative in regards to music production, but it's, know, the public's been so conditioned to accept synthetic and sort of artificial music, quantized drums, and, autotune and all these sorts of elements, that they've, you know, it won't be long before it the music is sort of programmed or or developed by AI systems. There's lots of people besides musicians who are panicked, like lawyers. Lawyers or accountants. Say, hey. Write me a sales contract. Write me a negotiation contract, and it will. 

Right? Like, it can do pretty complex things. So I'm happy to use a tool that can help make the skeleton and I can flesh it out, but I don't like when it fleshes itself out and presents itself to me as a human being and it's hard to tell the difference with the Turing test and all that sort of stuff. I don't I'd have to go back and look because there's there's wisdom in what Bert Weinstein's concerned about. I'm not so much and he points it out. I'm not concerned so much about GAI, generalized artificial intelligence. I don't think it exhibits that. I think Brian Brett Weinstein did a good job of the of exhibiting. It's not it's not actually manifesting any sort of in other words, it's not conscious like we are. But 

but it's able to convince us or act enough like a human like a simulacrum or simulacrum. Like, it's it's almost a simulation of ourselves as though it's real, but it's a it's a copy. It's sort of an after effect. It's something that it's almost good enough where it can convince people unwittingly that it is the real thing. And that's where I think the real concern lies. Not that they actually created a truly conscious machine. I'm not even sure that's fundamentally possible in the universe. Well, let's assume that what they're showing us now is twenty years ago and that what they have right now is something like what you're talking about because, like, we're talking about DARPA. Right? So we're not seeing the bottom of that iceberg of what they actually can do. 

We're showing what they, according to national security, can show people to be publicly available. And if you go back to the origins of OpenAI, I'm pretty sure Musk had something to do with this, the origins of this ChatGPT play, which is also interesting. Saying from a standpoint it's I agree with you. I'm totally on I'm not disagreeing at all. I'm just saying there may be a parameter by which the philosophically and then inevitably in nature itself by which these types of machines can't become self aware the same way we are, but that doesn't mean they're not gonna become infinitely more and more complex than the type of algorithms 

than in these programs that exhibit these algorithms can can produce. So in other words, it can get much better at being able to come up with very nefarious and intricate strategies for freeing someone like Grosso, or creating a song, or writing very complex code, or maybe designing some type of, like, fusion reactor that's hyper efficient and can work really well, but it's not conscious it's doing that. It's just being able to learn based on the continual feedback of datasets we're feeding it and the refinement of the algorithm to be more and more and more and more and more powerful. But there still may be a limit as to whether or not it can become conscious the way we are. That whether whether it might not matter. 

In that capacity, then it's always a slave to the people that have total power over it, which should be DOD, dart you know, through DARPA and, and their projects. DARPA projects that is with the Department of Defense and other elements, black projects, and other sort of, you know, government agencies and or military branches. You know? Because every military branch has their own intelligence, branch associated with it. So You can't call them black projects anymore, Tony. That's racist. You have to call them projects of color. Oh, boy. And there's fifty shades of gray where that's coming from. 

Speaking of take it, there's a second amendment issue we also have to cover, but we're not going to it's not this segue. I'm just foreshadowing after you hear Doctor. Jordan Peterson scare your socks off. Because when you hear how he feels about it. When he's like, I asked it Let me see if I can do his impression. I asked it. No. I can't do it right now. He asked it. You're gonna hear him say it. I don't wanna do an impression of him. I've been working too long today to do a good impression, but 

catch me at the right moment. I might give it to you sometime in the future. All right. So let's go to doctor Jordan Peterson. He's going to break open this chat GPT how situation a little bit more. He's going to show you, you know, there are people who are scared in losing their careers. But I think at the end of the day, lawyers, all these people that are scared, copywriters can serve more clients. Because the ChatGPT can give you a structure, but you still need someone to come in and make sure that's okay and legal. It makes sense. 

It's early. So these people have transition period of five, ten years. But there is something knocking on the door. It says, Ye shall focus on your highest and best value and delegate things that AI can do to the AI and be more productive. Or Joshua L. (zero twenty three:forty seven): There's certain irony to it insofar as it's actually going to target white collar jobs first and foremost. Now there's plenty look. McDonald's just rolled out a fully automated system in Texas, apparently. So it's not like blue collar jobs are safe. But this and the irony behind this specific system, it's actually threatening white collar jobs. You know, sitting behind a desk, paper pushers, 

you know, people work with sort of theory crafting knowledge, datasets, those sorts of things. And, yeah, the fact that it's threatening a lot of jobs in that domain, well, I think a lot of people thought they were insulated. You know, it's just gonna be the blue collar work. People work Right now, I guess part of physical labor. It's like, oh, no. Sorry. Go If you got kids in elementary school, this isn't a big deal. Don't worry about it right now. If you got kids in high school that are looking to go to college and there's chat GPT available and you're about to shock out a hundred thousand that you don't have, 

you might wanna get yourself some other options because what you're sending them into, it's gonna be obsolete. You send them to college. They wanted to go into human resources because that was a career twenty years ago. Now, human resources is going to be automated because who wants to deal with hiring and firing anyway? Resumes come in, they pass the algorithm, they go in and when they get fired, you get the automated, here's why we took down and canceled you and you have to move. All those good things that school prepares you for over those fifteen thousand hours. It definitely tells you how to live life and survive the track. Joshua L. (zero fifty five:thirty seven): one hundred and fifty five thousand dollars as well afterwards. Because it's fifteen thousand hours just to get through primary education, but then you can spend an extra hundred plus thousand dollars. Not to mention if you get a master's, get a master's and or go to professional school 

or boy, it's a lot of money. Or or, you know, instead of fifteen thousand hours, go through season nine of autonomy coming up in a couple months. It takes you one hundred and twenty hours, let's say. Twelve weeks, ten hours a week. You can undo the fifteen thousand hours of indoctrination and get the skills you need to survive and thrive and get the confidence and competence from actually practicing the skills in the incubator before you take them out to the street. So I'm just saying, you know, autonomy dot info forward slash ignite. So we need to discuss, 

for private matters by getting a corporate offering out there. I have a couple corporations that are very interested in the possibility of purchasing something like that. So We have a corporate offering in the r and d department. So Yeah. We just need a a use case for first testimonial. We can get it all real. Couple that are interested. Again, we'll talk about it privately. So lots of lots I mean, it's obviously high value skill set. It gives it's sort of a it's a deconditioning from the conditioning of the Prussian education model and progressive education, and it sort of regains your literal agency and your autonomy. 

Find value on your ability to to provide needs and wants that individuals out there have, and you can find a way to step in there, communicate effectively, and fill those needs, fill those wants, and with your own expertise, your own skills. So it's a it's a high leverage sort of value set. And if you wanna be response able, able to respond, you're gonna need some more information. You're gonna need some practice with that information. You're gonna need some use cases where you actually gain your confidence and say, Oh, I can do that. Now you can just go do it wherever you want to in a freedom like fashion. 

So, let's let's let's now let the doctor take the floor. Here's Doctor. Jordan Peterson. Before he went through the reeducation camp for those of you watching in the future, This is before the reeducation of doctor Jordan Peterson. Here's some parhysia. How many of you clap? How many of you know what chat g b t is? There are things, and everyone on in the audience should know this, there are things coming down the pipeline on the artificial intelligence front that are just gonna make your hair stand on end within the next year, because there is so much transformation 

going on in that domain, and and that's been the case particularly for the last six months that it's it's almost unimaginable. I figure a third of the universities will go broke in the next five years. So I'll tell you what Chatt GPT is, just so you know, because you need to know this. And I don't know what sort of technological revolution this is. It's smarter than you. This is a big deal. So this AI system, it's a general language processing model, was released about a week ago, a week and a half ago, and 

I I went and interacted with it. You can it's an AI system, artificial intelligence system. It basically is trained on, well, a massive corpus of analysis of human speech, essentially. It it isn't using real world data yet, but that will be happening certainly within the next year. And CHAT GPT analyzes a very large corpus of text, and that corpus is growing all the time. 

Now it's already sophisticated enough, I went on to it last week and I said, okay, some of you know I I've written these books, twelve rules for life and then beyond order, twelve more rules because, you know, you can't have enough rules. And I asked asked it, this is what I asked it to do. I said write me an essay that's a thirteenth rule for beyond order, written in a style that combines intersection of all three, that's impossible. Well, it wrote it in about three seconds, four pages long, and 

it isn't obvious to me, for better or worse, that I would be able to tell that I didn't write it. Right. Right. And, okay, and that's pretty impressive, but the fact that it could do that grammatically perfectly. Right? And quite impressive philosophically. I also had it write an essay on the intersection between the Taoist version of ethical morality and the ethics that are outlined in the sermon on the mount, which it just nailed, got that dead right, brilliant. 

Again, it took it about three seconds. There is a computer engineer who purported to work for Tesla. He asked GPT, Chat GPT, said, look, I work for Elon Musk, but I haven't been doing much for the last week, so I need you to write me ten bullet points about what I probably would have done as a as a engineer at Twitter. What ten things did I do last week that were productive and valuable? And oh, if you don't mind, write me the accompanying computer code that goes with each project. And it did that to three seconds, and the computer code works. 

Right? And so, okay. So that's that's already there. So then a university professor did this. He thought, oh, that's interesting. Any student will be able to write any essay on any topic with GPT, and, someone gave it an SAT by the way, and it scored about as well as the average student in a well functioning public university, so that's how smart it is. So that's basically an IQ test. He said write me an essay, gave it a topic, wrote the essay, he said now grade it. Said if we can automate the students, we should be able to automate the professors too. 

And so it provided a complete comprehensive analysis of its own essay with grade. It wrote, someone else asked it, write the screenplay and describe the characters for the next nine hundred million dollar Hollywood blockbuster. It's like, bang. Plot characterizations, then someone else took the descriptions of the actors and said generate computer, photorealistic computer images for each actor. Nick did and all the AI systems could do that. So I'm gonna tell you what's gonna happen next. This is gonna happen this year, so get ready. 

Okay. So now we have an AI model that can extract a model of the world from the entire corpus of language. Alright? And it's it's smarter than you, and it's gonna be a hell of a lot smarter than you in two years, so you can get ready for that too. But it's not that smart yet, because it's just a humanities professor at the moment. It doesn't test its linguistic knowledge against the real world. That's what a scientist does. Right? You come up with a theory that's linguistically predicated, and then you throw it against the world and see if it sticks, and then the world tells you whether or not your linguistic construction is valid. 

But the new AI systems will be able to extract out patterns from the world itself, from images and so forth, and then be able to test their linguistic constructions against the world, and so they'll practice just like scientists. And the most advanced models are going to use text and image and action as well, because they'll build a model human action. And so and all of that's going to come down the pipes within the next year. So hang on to your hats, 

ladies and gentlemen, because what did my friend Jonathan Pajot say? Giants are going to walk the earth once more, and we're gonna live through that. In Elon Musk, one of the things he's working on, see he he thinks that the world will be controlled by whoever produces the most functional AI system the fastest, because there'll be a first mover advantage. And one of the things Musk has been working on for a long time are distributed AI systems, so that you'll have your own artificial intelligence to protect you against, well, let's say against Google's artificial intelligence for 

starters. Yeah. Or or the CCP's artificial intelligence because you can bet your hat. They're working on that about as fast as they possibly can. Very fascinating. Always appreciate Jordan Peterson's perspectives. Very intelligent man, obviously, very wise individual. You know, there is major concern around these systems. I've already echoed the sentiments of my buddy who works in high level network security and what it's been able to do, which echoes the realizations 

that these professors, were able to test of it in regards to it being able to automate what they do. The fact that he was able to put in two very different systems, you know, Dallas ethical theory with, you know, the Sermon on the Mount. One's very much instantiated in Eastern concepts and practice. The other one is completely of Western contrivance and combine it in such a way to make it intelligible with no grammatical errors, which combines the primary concepts therein to make it something that's readable and understandable, that's quite frankly unbelievable. 

It's a hell of a test too to take a a theory that's very much eastern and isolated, eastern theory, And to juxtapose that to, obviously, the canon of western ethics in regards to theological concerns of the Judeo Christian tradition, That is a phenomenal test, considering that both are very although there's similarities in ethical, stances, practices, behaviors, so forth and so on, so ethics is really dealing with, they're they're they came they were arrived at completely differently conceptually, 

philosophically. So that's, it's very disturbing. He is right though too, just on a base IQ sense that, it'll be a lot smarter in the ability to recognize patterns and and perform action based on that. That has nothing to say about wisdom or about its own ability to integrate those patterns in a meaningful, understandable way, or whether it can ever understand it in the first place or just pump out patterns of information more quickly and more quickly and more quickly. That remains to be seen. But to Rich's point, we can only imagine what the, 

DOD through DARPA and so many other government types of agencies have in regards to advanced technology that we don't know about? And the long history behind it. I mean, just go back to IBM and the Holocaust. Hollerith cards, and then, Brzezinski calling for like, the Eastern Bloc, the Soviets could collect information on people, but they didn't have the technology to process it and use it real time. And then from the 1970s to present, they've developed the capacity, the technology, 

the data harvesting, your approval and habits. It's not accidental. And it is going someplace. It's going to a panopticon that people don't even realize is a panopticon anymore. Right. Right. That's why I'm not so people don't get caught up in the facade of whether They're panic. Start thinking. Well, yeah. Don't get and don't worry about whether it's GAI or not. I get caught up in that conversation. These systems, whether they're actually conscious or not, it doesn't kinda matter at this point. What matters is they're they're able to exhibit a level of 

intelligence, not maybe consciousness, but intelligence enough to be able to help the technocrats bring in this sort of global panopticon to Rich's point and be able to model human behavior so efficiently, so effectively, and put it into practice. Right now, it's just a linguistic sort of contrivance. But over time, they're gonna be able to test out these these linguistic patterns as Peterson noted through actual environments. And that's where it becomes really scary because that's where they can turn all of humanity into a live action lab, which is already it has been, but now run by AI, which can operate many orders of magnitude faster than human minds can 

and be much more efficient in what these technocrats maybe want to do with it and how they want to mold our behavior. That's that. It's really that's what terrifies me more than whether, you know, GAI is possible or not. Yeah. And I I figure if it's here and they let us have access to it, let's learn how to use it. I agree. We might like, I don't have it loaded here. I don't know if you have it, Tony. We might want to ask GPT, AKA how from now on. Let's ask how. How do we preserve 

the Second Amendment? Because the next story we're going to cover is ATF related. ATF does not have the ability or the right or the clearance to write laws, but people are going to think so for the next one hundred and twenty days. A lot of them are going to panic. I'd rather get informed and see what I know there's a longstanding agenda to disarm everyone on the planet. I was thinking depopulate everyone on the planet. They also want to disarm you. 

And part of that is playing on your ignorance, your fear, your inexperience in these matters. So I think, with this with the new news, I've been talking for twelve hours, with the new news, it's time to take a step back and say, Yes, the First Amendment and all that comes with it is very important. And most of this show has been dedicated to preservation, proliferation of the First Amendment. But the Second Amendment is now like abrasively under attack. 

They went after bump stocks. I don't know what a bump stock is. I didn't really pay much attention to it. But now they're going after something that's making forty million Americans felons, not overnight, but they wrote it overnight. They're going to, it's going to be circulated tomorrow, Monday, later today. And in one hundred and twenty days, according to the rules, people become felons. So we're going to need to, you know, Tony foreshadowed it. He's got a friend in security. He's got a buddy in security talking about the canon of ethics. Well, we need to talk about another canon of ethics 

and we need to put that on the table. We need to talk about the right to bear arms, the right to be informed, the right to, practice, the right to carry, the right to own. All these sorts of things are slowly but surely being pushed off the table. More and more rules infringing upon your civil rights, your bill of rights, your second amendment rights more specifically. They're getting more, 

proliferated every day. There's a bigger stack of laws trying to keep you from being able to protect protect yourself, protect your family, and protect your neighborhood. Used to be neighborhood watch was a thing. So let's take a look at a few things. We're gonna have, a couple different clips on this topic to give you guys not a panic perspective, but an early warning perspective that there are attempts to do these things. And I'm sure today, gun owners of America, National Rifle Association are getting, like, overboard donations. 

Go out and support. If you were a second amendment supporter or if you're someone that believes in people's right to defend themselves and not become the property of others, if you're just antislavery, you might be, you know, better suited to become more educated sooner than later because these rights are going out the window unless people like yourself become more familiar with what's going on. So we're going to have, a first clip up. It's a guy named Mike Glover. He runs, let's see what he does, Fieldcraft Survival and Tactical. 

He's a former special ops guy that now does, training of, people who take themselves seriously. And, following that, then we're going to have another clip, another analysis on the same ATF law that they're passing. And, we'll get a little more familiarized, and then, we'll pass it around. Maybe LD will have something to chime in after we have something to comment on. So let's go play this clip from Mike Glover. This is from his Mike Glover actual YouTube channel. It's separate from Fieldcraft Survival. It's his personal channel. So let's hear his take for the first couple minutes on this new, attempted 

pseudo legislation. Is that the mister guns and gear b channel? I don't think so, but it might be. It was from the YouTube playlist earlier today. Yeah. Let's try something, and if not, I'll pull it. Welcome back, everybody. As you probably guessed, the title of this video, we have And the YouTube channel should be 

either Mike So the ATF just came out with their final ruling on pistol braces, and we all It's news. There's a couple of different clips. Let's see. Yeah. We'll try it again. There you go. Hey, welcome to prep life. Let's talk about the FAA. You guys saw this in the national news. 

Ten thousand flights shut down. It's the first time in history this has ever happened because of a software glitch and the second time in the country's history since September eleventh, two thousand one. Hey, we're gonna shut down. Let's talk about airlines grounded them because of a software glitch. According to a more deeply seated report, one software engineer transferred one file and it shut down ten thousand flights. Now they identified this about twenty four hours prior to the actual shutdown because they were trying to reboot the backup system, but it failed. 

Ironically, Canada faced the same thing the following day, but according to the Department of Transportation as released in a press conference, this was not terrorist related. They haven't ruled it out, but I don't buy that an entire systems. Transportation was shut down because of a software glitch. And then the following day, Canada went through the same glitch just so happens. Here in lies a problem with our country right now. We're putting all our eggs in one basket 

for the sake of efficiency optimization. And so this analog approach where we have a contingency, a backup doesn't exist. We talked about it before on the show about the power grid and the power stations vulnerabilities across the country. Fifty five thousand of them. If nine to twelve of them were attacked according to a report from the US government, then it would shut down the power supply to the country for up to eighteen months. That's pretty scary, guys. 

So, you know, the things that we teach in self reliance is about understanding that all the things that you lean on because of this social collaboration and agreement of outsourcing everything. You better be prepared and start in sourcing some of that because if you depend on that system solely, you're setting yourself up for failure. I'm talking about these floods that affected, California still affecting California across the entire state up to twenty inches of rain. And 

Alright. So that is Mike Glover. He is an excellent instructor. I do think he talked about this story, but I mixed up the video. And, we'll go to the first one that LD was playing. He was playing the right one. He was right. I was wrong. I make mistakes. I'm a human being too. I passed the Turing test. Alan Turing actually failed the Turing test, which is interesting. And I don't even think Apple's logo comes from. I don't even think it's used. You say I was late, I just, like, muted myself. I don't even think it's used anymore as a legitimate example of whether or not AI is, 

a recognizance consciousness. Yeah. There's there's inherent paradoxes built into the test itself or limitations. But but it was a good it was a good thought experiment at the time, but it's been shown to be insufficient for my understanding, historically speaking. Yeah. And the other thing is before we go into this video, because now that we LD does have the video, and there are two videos on this topic. And it is something that's just broken like the last I think it broke this morning. Right before I did the workshop, I was checking these videos out. And I understand there's nothing to panic over. This stuff goes on all the time, but you do need to pay attention to it because, 

like, these are people who are criminals, who are trying to get away with mass murder, who don't wanna go to the gallows. And so in case they get opposition, they want everyone to be disarmed and come after them with butter knives. And I'm not saying, you know, I'm not calling for, like, French revolution. I'm not saying guillotines, any of that type of stuff. I believe that these people are intellectually bankrupt and that we should not gratify them and go down to their level and roll in the mud mud by carrying and conducting violence. But at the same time, 

I believe in physical self defense, intellectual self defense, and non aggression. And so you do need to become familiar with the rights that you inherited, but you don't own them until you experience them and do some learning. So I like to say that freedom is learned. It's not inherited. You have the potential for freedom, but you also have to step up for self responsibility in these other aspects. So in the interest of let's just bridge the gap for people who have fear of firearms. Been around for a long time and they are more dangerous when you are ignorant and scared of them than if you are knowledgeable 

and respectful of them. And, yes, criminals are always gonna break the law. And so making more laws to hurt the law abiding citizens from protect themselves, not a good idea. So I thought, what useful thing could I convey in a short period of time? Well, the first thing before you could even go to like a place to look at firearms, to educate yourself and get experiential tactile feel, you need to know something basic. Like not how to aim and fire a firearm, but how to check and clear a firearm. 

And I thought that was or Right? That's a useful demonstration? Oh, yeah. That's the most one of the most important things you could learn right out the get go for for safety and functionality understanding first and foremost. We shouldn't get flagged for showing that. Right? We're not gonna disassemble. We're not gonna play with springs and triggers or anything like that. But I thought it would be Trigger discipline's a nice thing too. Right. Yeah. You know, because it's like it's like the elephant in the room. So Now, clear the trigger. For instance Don't put your thing in the middle of the tree. Sorry about that. This is something that people are scared of. 

So let's clear it and let's clear it And let's look down inside it. Look down inside it. Anything in there? Let's tap it. Nothing in there. We're good. So we have a cleared firearm. Let's lock it open for safety. So it's clear, clear, clear. Everyone, we're clear. Right? We're good. Okay? Everyone, deep breath out. If that made you anxious at all, take a deep breath. Let it out. 

Because what you just saw was a demonstration of a BB gun. Okay? Any twelve year old in your neighborhood could have something like this and it might look like a firearm. Looks like a firearm, right? How many of you thought that was a real firearm? This is not a this is not even a training firearm. This is an airsoft, CO2 propelled BB gun that's fifteen or twenty years old. Okay? So I'm just saying, when I do that and you hear that, don't think anything of it. Well, c o two goes in the bottom. You guys can order these from Amazon right now. You might be in a place where firearms are illegal. I don't suggest you carry this instead, 

but it might be better than not being armed at all. You might be able to show and, you know, tell nobody. If somebody comes to your house and they mean you harm, having something like this for twenty bucks or whatever this costs these days might be better than your broomstick. Now if you have the means and the, adeptness to pick up something like this and not flag anybody. Right? Like, I'm not gonna flag even the camera because that's not good practice ever. Every gun is a loaded gun even if it's a BB gun. Even if you just saw me clear it, we're still going to respect it like it's a real gun. Now, something else, if you ever had to aim a gun, 

which I hope you never have to do at a human being, but it might be fun to plank some targets, you might practice and you don't even need a gun to practice. You don't even need a BB gun to practice. You can just go around pointing your thumb because wherever you point your thumb, that's your support hand. If you're right handed, that's where your target's going to be. So you can just go around planking all day. Plank, plank, plank. Doesn't cost you any money. But now you're at least in the mind of being a little more self aware, being a little more fearless around the inherited right of having second amendment. All the other countries on the planet, you can't have pistols. You can't have firearms. You can't have cannons. You can't have fifty cal. You know, you can't have three zero eight, 

Lapua. You can't have any types of stuff. You can have all this stuff, but you have to be responsible. With freedom comes responsibility. So it's good to not be in fear of, a striker fired weapon. Right? It's good to not be in fear of an old fashioned nineteen eleven. It's good not to be in fear of the shot cannons. All these things that people are, Oh, we got to ban this, right? They want to ban pistols. They're not automatic. They're they're not machine guns. Semi automatic they wanna ban for my understanding, which is absolutely asinine, which tells me the ignorance, 

the conscious ignorance of the people making legislation because they don't understand how firearms work. We're already limited quite dramatically compared to what the military and even paramilitary forces and also tactical forces in regards to SWAT and so forth have for local police departments and then state departments and so forth. You know? Yeah. You're not gonna take up arms against your oppressor. So all those you guys planning for that There's a big gap in technology there. But you might need to defend your family, your property, your way of life against people who would like to come on your property and take it from you. 

Self defense is a real thing in the world. Even animals without consciousness or reason know to defend themselves, and they will fight you if you go try to manhandle those those animals. They'll scratch you. They'll bite you. They will fight for their lives. It is only because people have been indoctrinated and habitualized into a level of servitude, that of Django unchained chained at this point. Yeah. And we of the underground railroad need to go out there and softly educate people and say, you know what? Things that go bang are only scary when they're being pointed at you. And as long as you don't use these tools to take away anyone else's freedom, you are perfectly able and capable and have the right to own such accoutrements of freedom and to be able to use them proficiently with practice and have the right to the ability to practice. Not with we're gonna ban lead smelting and all ammunition has to come from China. It's gonna be skyrocketed, and we're gonna tax it, and we're gonna license it, and you have to have a permit. Like, that's a bunch of nonsense 

made from made by people who wanna take away your rights and freedom. Yeah. The hyperbolized rhetoric around the the tragedies that happen with guns is drowning out an actual sort of, grassroots rhetoric. You can find websites. You can find blogs. They've they've been deep sixed by the algorithm, the goo you know, Google search and and so forth, but they do exist. That detail and document all the local news stories of individuals that have protected themselves, their families, their loved ones with firearms. And they they far outweigh the tragedies you hear about, but they never make, obviously, national news. They know they barely make local news, but we hear about it through local news and then they get reported on various blog websites that try to document, look, there's, yes, there's a negative. We see the negative. We see high hyperbolizes 

in the media, how tragic. But yet, at the same time, politically charged and hyperbolized that then is in the the rhetorical schemes of those who wanna create legislation change. But here's all the individuals you're not hearing about that are actually using it responsibly, to Rich's point, and are able to defend themselves and their friends and their family. And it's quite voluminous. Every single year, the amount of people amount of lives that are saved due to the fact that someone had a firearm, whether it's in a local barbershop, whether it's, you know, down at your local community center, whether it's in your home, you know, burglary situation. They could be used as deterrents. Hopefully, you never have to fire one. You know, when I first started getting used to and sort of practicing with fire, I kept saying to myself, I still have the sentiment. Although I do enjoy going to the range, I don't do it that often. But I said to myself, I hope I never in my life ever have to use this, quite frankly. That that's really the the sentiment with which I go into it. Although I do enjoy 

the act of, you know, general target shooting and stuff like that. It's not it's, you know, beyond that, I don't, you know, hope I never have to use it in the way in in form of self defense. I hope I never have to I hope I'm never accosted to the point at which I have to utilize it in the form of self defense, but I will. And now I know I have the ability to do so. And, Well, and so many generations before us had to fight for their liberty and freedom. The least we can do is respect what they've left to us and hope that we never have to use it. 

Because to have to use such things whether in self defense or in times of civil war. Nobody wants to do that. We all have things we would rather be doing, right? But if it comes time to you know, there's civil unrest and your families at risk, you want more than a broomstick and harsh words because they're no longer like a woke mob trying to cancel you. They're an angry, hungry mob that doesn't know how to meet their needs without resorting to violence. 

And that happened recently. My a bunch of mine that was in Washington state when the summer of love was happening. And what was it called? Chop or Chaz or whatever? That's yeah. That that whatever. That community that was set up in, I think it's in Seattle, Washington. You know, he it got so bad that, you know, he essentially had to he'd he'd he's the type that would never ever touch a gun. He actually went for and and learned how to deal with firearms because he was afraid of his property deal because of the rise in crime. 

And he first went the route of using something like what you have there on the screen, which is, you know, to sort of psychologically manipulate someone to think you're armed. But then he realized that Washington state has very amenable laws in regards to, the ability to carry firearms and, utilize them. So he had Or someone that's, you know, let's say, you were slinging some weed back in the day and you got a record and you can't have a firearm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. You know, they got they got some mighty airsoft. There's all sorts of things these days that are plus, there there's there's creative ways to defend yourself if you're not legally allowed to do those things. Sure. And you wanna follow that law because you don't wanna be a lawbreaker anymore. I I understand those things. Also understand the difference between a BB 

and even a three eighty is a world of difference. Right? Now, I thought, Is there something else useful I could teach you? Yeah. I was watching some Mike Glover videos. So one of the things that he recommended was a lot of people starting out with shooting, you're not used to having this explosion out in front of your face. And it's a natural thing to flinch and anticipate the firing of it and to flinch right before your barrel rises and this sort of thing. So what he said was, This is still 

unloaded and it's still fucking airsoft gun. That's an airsoft. Right. Yeah. So like, if you have a limp wrist, so it depends on like how you shake hands. If you have a a up and down limp wrist, then when you fire the gun, the recoil is going to go straight into your wrist. Whereas if you shake hands like a man's supposed to with a solid wrist, that recoil will travel up into your body and your gun won't be doing the rise and fall thing that everybody bends off at 

the range. So, becoming more familiar with not just your First Amendment, but the second amendment. Not for the purpose of taking anyone's life or threatening anybody ever because that's not something peaceful people do. Every adult, mature male I've known in life carries a pistol, carried a pistol. A lot of them passed away having carried a pistol defending their own freedom without ever having to pull it to threaten somebody's life or at least not to fire. Not to having to fire. Let's put it that way, right? Never having to take somebody else's life. So 

something that prevents that type of violence from happening is worth it. And then something that can defend you if somebody brings likewise or greater violence, at least you can learn how to stand your ground. Have a chance in the game that they're playing out there. But you're not gonna do it in a mindset of fear. You're not gonna do it in a mindset of that's for other people because I think that's people who haven't gotten themselves the least bit educated because it it'll it it honestly, it does not take. There's several instructors online that are awesome top quality instructors that'll teach you how to fire a handgun in ten minutes. 

They may or may not teach you some of the things I just taught you. But I'm also looking at other great teachers to see what they're teaching and what they're learning. So Mike Glover was one. I wanna recommend also, John Lovell from the Warrior Poets Society. So take in a wealth of information from people. And then the other thing is, no, I'm not going to show you an everyday carry pistol live. That would be silly. But I can show you this. I can make the point with this demonstrative BB gun just in case anybody was real sensitive to firearms. It's a BB gun. And now for the next story that has nothing to do with pistols 

but has to do with, well, technically pistols with braces. But the ATF is funny about how these things work. You're going to see it as a rifle, a carbine, something you might call an AR-fifteen. AR does not stand for assault rifle. Let's just also get that done if we're going to talk about Second Amendment, The Holy Trinity, Eugene Stoner from the ArmaLite company, he made AR-fifteen. Moses Browning made the nineteen eleven, and Gaston Glock, right? So, if you know about those three characters, 

you're going to be all right. The canon of ethics is going to start here with trying to take away these braces. I think it's discriminatory that these braces are being called out. I think it's a way to get people on a registry, which is the dream of the globalists. If they want to disarm people, they need to know who has what armaments, right? So you don't want to volunteer that too much. None. So anyway, let's go to two other researchers on this topic, on this story from earlier today or earlier yesterday 

and let's learn about this new brace problem that the ATF is causing in order to create forty million new felons. Welcome back, everybody. As you probably guess from the title of this video, we have some very bad news for a lot of American gun owners out there. And even folks who don't own guns, this is terrible news because of the type of precedent that it tries to set by the federal government. So long story short, we're going to, presume that most of you guys have seen seen my videos before on the ATF and their brace. 

Obviously, I'm not putting this video up on YouTube right now because I can't. I'm suspended from YouTube. So if you guys are watching this video anywhere besides rumble, head over to my rumble channel and, subscribe because that's the main place for this video during my suspension. So bottom line is today is the thirteenth. The ATF just dropped their quote, unquote final rule, for firearms with attached stabilizing braces. I'm gonna read a couple things from it, but kinda big picture. Let me give you a quick overview here first. Number one, this is to go into effect a hundred and twenty days from the day it's published. That will probably be Monday. We don't know that yet for sure, but very likely. 

There will be, at that point, of course, criminal penalties for it. I have spent the last forty five minutes reading all of these documents. Comprehensive, and so many people are gonna be impacted by this. So, again, the rule is gonna go into effect a hundred and twenty days from publication, probably Monday. Anybody who has a braced pistol that I am aware of, they have an exception in here that I've seen, but I've not seen an example of the exception. We'll get to that here in a second. So on the macro overview, anybody who has a braced firearm, if you don't go through the ATF's approved, 

options that we're gonna talk about here in a second, you will be a felon overnight, and you will be facing up to ten years in prison and ten thousand dollars per firearm that you are in possession of, again, as of a hundred and twenty days from now according to the ATF. And, again, just kind of on the big picture level, the ATF does not have the ability as an executive agency to pass law. And what they're trying to do here is pass a law, without Congress being involved or the president. So nobody's passing in the legislature and the president is not signing it. They're just saying this is now a law 

and upwards of forty million, very likely much more than that, American citizens, like I just mentioned, will be turned into felons overnight. Again, before I get into details, what do I suggest you do? Number one, blow up every single one of your political representatives, whether they be a federal congressman, state representatives, your governor, whatever the case may be, everyone needs to oppose this on every level because it is one of the most dangerous things I've seen by the federal government during my lifetime, if not the most dangerous. Well, 

there are probably more dangerous after nine eleven. But regardless, it's up there with it. It is that dangerous. This this is extremely, extremely dangerous should this go into effect, and you guys are gonna see why here in just a second. So getting into what is actually posted, and, again, I'm gonna link down to this below in the video description. You guys can check it out and do your research yourself. There will probably be a follow-up video because, again, there is a lot to read here. I have not read all of it. I've skimmed over it, and I just wanna get this out so everybody knows. You could share this with all your friends on all the social media platforms, 

because this this is crazy. So, basically, it says January thirteenth two thousand twenty three today. The ATF published final rule, factoring criteria for firearms with attached stabilizing braces. So what is a stabilizing brace? It is this. In all types of variations of this, a device designed for people who are handicapped that you can put your arm through to make you a more accurate shearer, should you be disabled. So if you have one of those, hundred and twenty days from now on a firearm, it will be considered a felony for every firearm. Again, literally over forty million Americans have these, and it's probably higher than that, but at least that many. 

And so basically what it says is that constitutes a short There's a little disambiguity that needs to happen there because you might say This law only applies to people who have a disability because that's what the braces are for and you'd be inaccurate. And then you might say, Well, if it affects forty million people, there must be forty million people with disabilities using these types of braces. That's also inaccurate. The ATF, because of how they've written the rules and all the school shootings all the year over the years, they came up with these rules where basically 

you can't own a AR fifteen, but you can own a AR fifteen pistol and put a brace on it that allows you to have like an AR fifteen carbine without breaking their whatever laws. So over the years, people who needed a carbine to defend their family, to shoot coyotes with these sort of things that you do with a rifle these days and, traditionally. They got in. They got so there's forty million braces going around. They're not all handicapped people. They're not all disabled people. There's just people rocking 

personal defense and security that have these braces on their firearms that they paid a lot of money for. And they don't see this coming because it's sitting in their safe. They're not paying attention to the news. A hundred and twenty days is gonna go by. And if the gun owners of America or NRA or some other lobbyist group doesn't get this reversed and it actually stands to law, they know likely where those guns are and who didn't register, and they might do a sweep as they've done in other countries. So I wouldn't put it past them and I see this as like, they're drawing a line in the sand and they're making people decide to be either a law abiding citizen by complying and becoming a part of a list or you can become an outlaw 

and get hunted down probably by drones and robots in the future. So it's going to be fun either way. Let's go ahead and continue to roll this clip. Yeah. Yeah. A rifle, if it is on a firearm with one of those braces attached and the barrel is less than sixteen inches or eighteen inches if it's a shotgun. It goes on to say, this is the exception, but I've read through, again, a good bit of this, and I've not seen an example of this. But they do say that there's an exception. The rule does not affect stabilizing braces that are objectively designed and intended 

as stabilizing brace for use by individuals with disabilities and not shouldering the weapon as a rifle such stabilizing braces are designed to conform to the arm or not a buttstock. However, if the firearm with the stabilizing brace is a short barrel rifle, it needs to be registered within a hundred and twenty days from the date of publication of the Federal Register. So that entire paragraph completely contradicts itself. So, again, this clearly with this wrap around in this slot here to put your arm in is clearly designed to aid someone who is handicapped in firing a firearm. It's very clear. The majority of this the examples that they show here have something similar to this. Not all, but most of them do. 

So, again, it's very contradictory. Let me get into basically a few examples, and we'll roll them in here on screen so you guys can kinda get an idea of what I'm talking about. But this is all straight from the ATF's website. So right here, you see a Daniel Defense DDM four SVPW. I have a video on this on my YouTube channel, but you can see that it does have an adjustable brace on there. Other AR style guns with different braces are there. Here's one, which is FN, which has this very brace on it. They say that this is now a short barrel rifle. 

Continuing on down to different styles of guns, you can see an AK style gun here with a nine millimeter with a side folding brace. Once again, it has a loop around it that you can easily run through your arm for somebody who is handicapped and, wants to use it as such. Another example as we go down here with another brace that is designed for handicap folks, and they have different, you know, options here. We have some bolt action options here, which are designed, again, for handicapped folks, but they're saying are now short barrel rifles. 

And the list goes on, but you guys can get a pretty good idea here of what the ATF says is a violation of this. They also have released some, non I guess, not as common guns like an Uzi that you guys see here. They also have some, Glock kits that are adapted for folks who are handicapped. You guys can see those here. But, But, again, you get a pretty good idea that just about every single stabilizing brace in America, according to the ATF, is now part of this and is now a short barrel rifle. And once again, I cannot emphasize this enough. Everyone who has them, including people who have no idea this happened because, again, congress didn't vote on it. It was not debated. It was not passed in law. The news probably isn't covering this. 

After a hundred and twenty days after the date this is published, which, again, is probably gonna be Monday, will be a felon in possession of a National Firearms Act firearm. So the ATF put this chart up here that you guys can see. I'm obviously gonna focus on the individuals because that is the majority of you, but they also have, some guidance for law enforcement agencies, federal firearms licensees like myself and others. But, basically, they consider you the person. This is literally how they define you in the table. They define you as an unlicensed 

possessor, unlicensed possessor. So here's some options as to what you can actually do. You can replace the short barrel with, what they're calling the short barrel. You can replace the short barrel on your firearm with one that's sixteen inches or longer. You can remove the brace so that it cannot be reattached. Now I've read through this, and, again, I see nowhere listed that they actually tell you what that means or what that definition is legally. Again, it's not a law. This is the ATF just making it up, and they're using this chart here as a way to explain it to you. They it may be defined in the literature, but, again, I've read through a lot of it. I've not seen that yet. 

They also say that you can forfeit your firearm to the local ATF office. Now I try not to give legal advice here. I'm not an attorney, full disclosure. That said, do not ever ever if you're firearm to the ATF, all you're doing is submitting evidence of a possible crime. Don't do that. You have a right to not incriminate yourself. Do not do that. The other part is like how ludicrous the request is. Let's say somebody has a rifle that has, the shoulder support on it. Mhmm. First off, I've never seen anybody use that for what they're claiming it's original intention is. Yeah. That's fine. First off. First off. And then, 

the second part is, I lost it. There was an important point to make there before he moved on. What was he just saying right there? Essentially, he's describing he's not a lawyer, but he wanted wanted to make sure that you don't incriminate yourself by taking your firearms into the ATM. Because one of the options is just go give it to him. Like, you can either make it compliant by getting a new barrel, which is basically like a big deal, or you can just give them your your rig. Right? So my point was going to be the rifle, whether you put it together yourself or you have one built professionally depending 

it's a thousand to thousands of dollars for a rifle. And then you want an optic that's hundreds to many thousands of dollars. You want to see night vision? It's five thousand dollars starting point and then you can see that's without, the NVG. Let's just like on your gun, right? Like a Trijicon, like night vision type thing. So the people who have those things, they got paychecks. They got investments into that armament for their family and their personal protection. They're not likely to just be like, Okay, here it is. You guys are the ones that did Fast and Furious and provided guns to the cartels, right, that killed American servicemen? 

We're going to give you our guns? Okay. That's a great idea. Thank you for your consideration. No, thank you. That's an offer I can turn down. Thank you. It's not something voted on, so, like, is this legally binding? Is this a situation that's not do they have more power than we, the individuals? Like, is this one of those things where they're hoping that it's gonna bank on people's ignorance? They're hoping and they're praying on that, dude. Because, I mean, I'd get a constitutional lawyer to challenge this as quickly as possible in case she found herself in a precarious situation. 

Yes. Yes. For sure. Alright. Let's continue to play this and get through the news of it. The ATF says you can destroy the firearm. There actually is guidance, not in this rule, but in actual laws on how firearms can be destroyed. And here's the big one that I think they want to get most people under. So I should also mention that in the explanation of this ruling, they mentioned that there's over a quarter billion dollars that they're losing every year, and they don't explain what that means. But what my opinion of what that means is is that they mean they estimate that a quarter million dollars 

of tax revenue they're missing out on because folks have braces. And, again, I realize a lot of people watching this don't know what I'm talking about. So if you were to create a firearm, let's just say an AR fifteen for simplicity's sake, and you put a stock on it, not a brace, you put a stock on it and your barrel was ten and a half inches, In order to legally do that in America, you would need to submit a tax stamp application for a two hundred dollar stamp for a short barrel rifle, which is a legal class of firearm in America. So what they're saying here, at least the way I read it, is that they're missing out on a quarter of a billion dollars 

in tax stamps not filed. Is that a motivation as to why they're doing this? Certainly possible. There's a lot of other motivations so that we can expound upon later on. But on tea. The option that the ATF gives you as a, quote, unquote, unlicensed possessor is that you can register on an e form, e form one during the hundred and twenty day compliance date, period, which is there. Not and it says in parenthesis, and this is key. This is what they're trying to do to entice people to do this. It says not required to pay the two hundred dollar making tax during the one hundred and twenty days. 

Couple issues with that. Number one is that they're trying to give you a quote, unquote grandfather clause, which, again, they legally can't do. The ATF does not have the ability to do that. If it is in fact a short barrel rifle, they're mandated by congress to collect the tax on that. So I don't I mean, they can't do that. Number one, it's it's illegal for the ATF to do that. It's also illegal for them to declare these short barrel rifles and short barrel shotguns regardless. That is what they're saying they're doing. They're giving you a tax holiday during the hundred and twenty day period. They specifically mentioned the e form. 

I will show you guys here. I went to the directions in the new guidance here, what it says to do, and the actual form it tells you to fill out literally isn't even there. I obviously have an e form account because I'm this is my job. This is what I do for a living, and the form that they're telling you to fill out doesn't exist. So let's presume that it starts on Monday. Right? Let's just kinda work through a scenario here. Let's presume the hundred and twenty day starts on Monday, and folks were actually going to register their firearms. The eforms for anybody who doesn't know is down one day a week and it's only operational, 

during certain hours. So you have to think it's only gonna be operational six days a week and many hours of the day. It's also not operational. EForms takes a long time to fill out for somebody who knows what they're doing and does this for a living like myself. Never mind somebody who's never done it. And it is a it's literally a government website, so it is super clunky. It's not intuitive in any way, and we're expecting that forty million people are gonna be able to use this website in a hundred and twenty days and get their firearms in the tax free period registered. 

It's not gonna happen. I can just tell you that, but that that's what they're saying is they're saying if you do that, then you're not a felon at the end of the hundred and twenty day period. There's a lot of other things that go along with that and dangers of that. Again, there will probably be a follow-up video on this on on my channel. But, again, initial thoughts on that is number one, this is a gigantic registry scheme in addition to lots of other things. And as we all know in America, a firearms registry is completely illegal. It is explicitly banned by Congress. The federal government cannot legally maintain a registry of firearms. So what they're trying to do here is use the National Firearms Act, which is a law that was passed in nineteen thirty four, I believe, and they're trying to use that as a way to create a new firearms registry. 

Again, it's wrong in every level. They don't have the ability to do it. They don't have the ability to give you a grand product tax. They don't have the ability to give you a hundred and twenty days that's just made up out of thin air. They don't have the ability to mandate you go to a website. They don't have any of these capabilities unless Americans essentially allow them to to do it. Right? If we allow them to do it, then they'll do it. And as we know with the recent EPA case, the Supreme Court has said executive agencies do not have this authority. They are attempting to make law. So, again, what do you guys need to do? Just like I said in the beginning of this video, you need to contact your representatives, 

federal, state, everywhere. Obviously, we need to fight this. Lawsuits will be filed immediately by Governors of America, Firearms Public Select Coalition, the Second Amendment Foundation, and others. I recommend you guys donate to all of those organizations as well because this fight is not going to be cheap. There'll be links to them down below in the video description for you guys to donate to Donate to them. But there's a lot of different ways we can fight this. So number one, states. We can have states pass laws that this is not allowed here, and any federal agents that attempt 

to enact this type of enforcement within state boundaries will be arrested on-site by the state police. That absolutely could happen because, obviously, this is a civil rights violation. Most states have civil civil rights crimes already, and just turning this into one, it definitely is one way to fight this. Additionally, on a federal level, congress, having congress do this, slapping down the ETF, letting them know they are not allowed to do this. And then, of course, we're gonna fight it through the courts as well with the organizations that I just mentioned. And all of those need to happen quickly, and they all need to happen with a lot of 

energy and support behind them. Because, again, like I mentioned earlier, this is one of the most dangerous things I've ever seen during my lifetime for the federal government. Imagine overnight if tomorrow, let's say there's three fifty million Americans right now. Imagine if overnight, in a hundred and twenty days, I guess we'll say better say, one in ten people is a felon for something that is completely harmless, that hurts no one, and that most of them, probably ninety five percent of them who own these items, don't even know this is happening. And then all of a sudden, a SWAT team of federal agents from the ATF, the FBI, the Department of Justice rolls up on every one of their houses with an MRAP, an armored vehicle, and they have full auto weapons. They're kicking their door in, pointing them at their children in the early morning hours, that is what the federal government is trying to do to ten percent of the American population. 

Let that sink in. That's how serious this is. That's how crazy this is. We need to get active. We need to get active quickly. With that, I suppose I will on the video there, again, there'll be links to all of this down below. So if the ATF can't pass laws, what intimidation factor are they bringing to the table? What did the f, the IRS just do? Oh, armed agents. Oh, they have a monopoly on force. Mhmm. Well, wouldn't they have even more of a monopoly on force if they had everybody disarmed? 

And wouldn't it be easy to disarm people if you had them scared of owning their Second Amendment rights? It's beautiful, nefarious, devious. But we have worthy adversaries is what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. But they're still wrong. Yeah. Sorry. You're ignorant. But you're you don't understand freedom. That's all. I understand. Yeah. We'll see, how far this goes. I it seems like it oversteps the balance of what the ATF can functionally 

do, represent, enforce, so forth and so on. So it'll be interesting to see how far this actually goes. They're really banking on people's ignorance in this regard and hoping that people just, like, willingly comply. Give us your guns, or we'll take away the sun. And then I'll also by by complying, we'll set up a registry through that firearms action nineteen thirty four whenever Yeah. Isn't that convenient? Like, that's a really amazing roundabout way to do what they aren't allowed to do in the first place. But by getting people to con convince people they don't have a choice in that matter, even though this is not something that was legislated, 

this is just a government agency that's saying you just have to do it. I had the website up whenever I still have it. Well, why are you looking at there used to be a guy named Bob Daisy from Austin, Texas who did a presentation on how the United Nations had this historical agenda of trying to disarm America since nineteen sixty four to present. I don't know if it's still it used to be, like, on the Infowars website that they banned and deep sixed all that stuff back in the day when it got canceled. But Bob Daisy, Austin, Texas, UN straight jacket. No, that's, Vian's book. But it was the UN and disarmament 

of Americans because that agenda is still going on today and every school shooting. Like the British Empire, they had a school shooting in Ireland, no more guns in Ireland. School shootings over there in Australia, no more guns in Australia. They really thought by the time they started having school shootings here, Columbine, et al, for the last thirty years, We would, Oh, for the children, give up your guns and be a good little colony again. And I think that you guys should learn your history before you go giving up your weapons around these people Yeah. They Because 

they're not to be trusted. Yeah. To to pull this off, and they've not really gained much ground in that regard. I mean, they've already taken away so much of our ability to have access to even close to equal armament, even the local, like, SWAT groups. And and, obviously, you know, when it comes to military and paramilitary forces, we're nowhere near that. But so they've already done a lot to restrict, but even then, they understand the value of, I mean, was it ninety four when Australians had their gun buyback? I mean, look what happened in Australia during COVID. So it's sort of like, you know, they're they're not able to enforce 

the the stringent rule sets they were able to pull off during COVID. Well, they collected people up and sent them to camps, Tony. Right. And that was easy to do in Australia. Because they're still kinda doing that. Because people don't have armaments. Yeah. It's exactly right. Right. Under percent. So the only only thing that's the only when someone has the potential, even if they're that's their job to go in and take someone out of their house forcibly, but that person has the ability to defend themselves, that person that's supposed to do their job is gonna think twice about it. Like, it's very simple. Called the equalizer because it made women on par with men. A woman could hold six shots in her hand and hold her ground. And a single mom who had lost 

Like a single mother, widow who lost her husband could still defend the farm and raise her family because she could fend people off and she's a force to be reckoned with with a six shooter and some reloads. Whereas today, people don't have what they don't even have situational awareness, let alone improvisation to use what's around them to defend themselves. Their immune system for defense is turned off. It's like they have an acquired immune deficiency syndrome 

where they will no longer defend themselves and almost they feel threatened by their defense system like a Second Amendment type thing. Now, I know we showed some peep We showed you the BB gun and some people were like, but Then you found out it was a BB gun and you were like, oh it's okay. Right? So we made it through that. So here's another example. This is a pistol. This is not something to be toyed with though it is a toy. This is made by Daisy. I've had this since I was ten years old. It goes like this, 

right? It's CO2 compressed with a little slide back. You can check, oh look there's ammo inside or not. Well okay, it's got a little safety. So you learn safety from age ten in this country. Like, there like, this is a very popular gun. There are many, many people my age that that cherish, like, their first couple BB guns with Red Ryder BB gun, of course, the Daisy Mach nineteen eleven with a gas and clock, slide, like it's a striker fire. I don't know. It's a made up weapon. So if you're scared by something like this, let me show it to you up close. If you're scared by something like this, it's because you can't tell the difference. You don't even know enough to be like, Oh, it's a Daisy BB gun from the 1970s, 

right? This is not something to be scared of. It'll sting you. It'll poke your eye out for sure. But if you don't know enough to know the difference between a BB gun and an actual handgun, don't go around trying to take other people's rights away. And if you don't know enough to tell the difference, you don't know enough to be scared in the first place. Now, on the other hand, if you right away said, Oh, that's a Daisy BB gun. It could also be a pellet gun because different armaments back in the day. It's modeled to look like, but here's the differences. 

Then you're also not scared of it because you have enough knowledge to know the real thing from a fake thing and there's no threat posed here, Right? So I've given you two good solid examples of recreational types of accoutrements that people have played with in this country for a long time. Okay? Lots of people have used and not been killed by these things. Now, on the other hand, there's a famous movie out there called John Wick. John Wick has this beautiful H and K pistol. Oh, yeah. And it looks just like this. Now I have had this pistol for nearly twenty years. Let me go ahead and let's make sure it's safe for everybody. 

Let's make sure we're safe. Safe, everybody. We're safe. We're looking down. We're safe. It's clear oh, everything's empty. Okay. We're safe. Everything's safe. It's a BB gun. All right? So again, if you don't even if you can't even like fool the prop master and you don't know like, you don't know the difference, You don't know enough to be around. You're dangerous. Right? So if someone picks this up and they don't know what's a BB gun and they flag me with it, I saved my life because if it was a real gun, they might have shot me. So having something for entertainment, for training, 

for muscle memory, you know, if you have a Glock and you don't wanna sit around and maybe reload a live, round in there, get a BB gun. Make it blue. Paint it orange. But get your muscle memory. Get your repetitions in. But don't go doing dangerous things, because that's not cool. So become knowledgeable. Don't see violence glamorized in John Wick and go doing harmful things to people. On the other hand, H and K pistol is pretty damn cool. Now again, if I had the real thing, I'm not going to be showing you real things here. I'm showing you examples. These are examples of the things that are going on. Now, we also did have, 

there was one other video on this brace issue. Now, the brace looks a lot like a stock, but if you have a stock, you have to pay the tax stamp, you have to be on a registry. If you have the brace, anybody I don't know. There's, like, people out there with a machine, a CNC mill called a ghost gunner. You could get your, lower third. You get your trigger array. You get all these things. Put it together. You got yourself a gun, and you didn't get it from the gun store. So there are things like that going on out there. 

There's also a lot of polymer three d printed type of situations. There's the the melding of those two worlds to make almost all the parts. So like them trying to disarm people forever, they're going to try to do it. But I think it's that cat, that boat has sailed. Those horses have already left the barn. Yeah. All they can do is make it illegal, but they can't disarm people forever. So they can just make turn more and more law abiding citizens into criminals by doing, you know, the Fox sort of, 

legislation. You know, fake, sort of absurd, beyond the bounds of the the, Bill of Rights, first ten amend amendments to the constitution, so forth and so on, particularly the second amendment. You know? And, just looking here, some CNN politics. This this was Friday, January thirteenth, so just a couple days ago, twenty twenty three. Attorney general Merrick Garland and Steve Dettelbach, the director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, ATF, announced new regulations Friday that would subject pistol stabilizing braces to additional regulations, including higher taxes, longer waiting periods, and registration. 

It goes into the whole issue as wide as gun control proponents argue that stabilizing braces can which can be attached to pistols effectively transform a pistol in a short barreled rifle, which are heavily regulated under the NFA or the National Firearms Act. I think that's what he was alluding to before, the one passed back in the nineteen thirties. Will will go into effect as soon as it's published in the federal register. So I guess it has legality somehow. That's I have a lot of questions, but not a lot of answers. Legality brought brought to you by the people who performed a coup a couple years ago Yeah. And admitted it and covered it up and covered up Hunter Biden's laptop and lied to you about a pandemic and lied lied to you about the experimental treatment. 

Fair enough. I don't mean to talk about these things with BB guns on screen. I'm not trying to incentivize or, you know, get anyone exuberant in the violent direction. I'm just saying these people should expect to be called out. They should expect grand juries. They should expect congressional inquiries. They should expect some journalists finally getting off their asses and asking some hard questions in these situations. And I think we see little sparkles of that coming out of the White House as they're saying, Oh, Biden is not a continued thing. So let's 

proverbially, euphemistically throw him under the bus. I don't know. Is that an idiom? That way of turning a phrase like that? It's, it's too early to to decide. We'll have to get the vote on that. We'll do a poll later to see if that was an idiom or not. All right. So let's head into some, intermission and we'll play like maybe a half hour of this gig. Do we have a half hour or do we have, like, twenty minutes from the public and ten minutes to give a taste of behind the scenes? No. I mean, we have both. But, well, if we do behind the scenes, it just to be noted that it's 

it's, slate. Jason Burmas' private video, which I don't you know, I think if I think we have enough rapport with him that a week as long as you didn't play the whole thing, but play just a section of it or just continued the flow of the conversation and stop it and let people know to go there to check it out, I think that would be fair. I mean, obviously, I can speak for him, but I think, you know, you The whole thing is on Corbett's site. So Oh, it is? Okay. Boom. Thank you, Corbett Report. Thank you, Jason Burmes. If you guys are Rock Finningtons 

over here watching Grand Theft World, go over to Burmas. If you're not on Rockfin, go subscribe to Burmas, then you can watch Grand Theft World for free. Thank you to Corbett for putting the whole thing out there and making production easy at this early hour in the morning. And, if you're just tuning in, this is not, a locked and loaded hammer back H and K. This is a BB gun. We just talked about it, but you missed that part because you just tuned in. All right. So let's go to who is Elon Musk? Should we trust him? And, who is Johnny YouTube? I think that's the the character you're going to meet in this video. Yeah. I'm pretty sure that was it. It's been a couple of days. So let's go to, 

Whitney Webb, James Corbett, Derek Bros, Jason Burmas, and the MuskerNuts himself, Elon Musk being talked about. And, let's check it out for this intermission, then we'll be right back. And we won't have any more BB guns to confuse you. Hey, everyone. This is Derek Bros, the Conscious Resistance Network, and I am here with a lot of amazing people. And I just wanna say real quick before we introduce everybody, we're gonna spend about an hour talking about why you shouldn't trust Elon Musk if you happen to. I reached out to everybody here. I know that each of them has done different work talking about Elon Musk. The reason I think this is important as we're in twenty twenty three, the beginning of the year, is because there are a lot of people in our spaces and in our communities and people who follow our work who are falling for the Elon Musk deception in one way or another. So I figured we should try to get ahead of that because we've seen this happen before with Donald Trump and other people. 

Why not try to do our best to spread factual information and maybe plant some seeds of doubts in the minds that are trusting this man. So that's why we're here today. I'm Derek Bros with the Conscious Resistance. Let's go around and get to know everybody real quick before we get started. I guess I'll jump in. I am Jason Bermas. I do a morning show now, eight to ten AM, Monday through Thursday, also a documentary filmmaker. I've been talking about Musk, transhumanism, and his military industrial complex ties amongst other things for some time now. 

Ryan, I can't hear you. You're getting it right there? Always a classic. I'm Ryan Christian from the last American Vagabond, founder of the last American Vagabond. You know, this is such an important conversation. I'm glad we're having this, and I definitely think that, you know, all of your work here in this room has helped to guide my perception of this as well, and I think this is, you know, my big thing. I think it's just about the kind of retraining us how to engage in this journalistic practice, like, through intermediaries. But, obviously, the great reset and everything else that this ties to and and all the newer working pieces, I'm excited to talk about all this with you guys here today, so looking forward to 

it. Okay. So, hi. I'm Whitney. I, have a website. It's unlimited hangout dot com. I also write for Ryan's site. We'll be doing more of that soon. For those that don't know, I've kind of had some time off because I wrote a long book, and it broke my brain. But, you know, it's working again to talk about why you should not just trust, not trust, at all Elon Musk, but really you shouldn't trust any big tech billionaire, period. 

And Probably the broader name of James Corbett of the Corbett Report. But for the purposes of today's conversation, I am Johnny YouTuber. Alright. Let's straighten her up because this is gonna be a super boring conversation because we are all on the same page. We all agree. Elon Musk is phony as a three dollar bill. Don't, sorry, Elon Musk is phony as a three dollar bill. Don't trust him. So I'm going to be the devil's advocate, and I'm going to argue for Elon Musk in this conversation. 

Love it. Love it. Wow. Okay. That's cool. That's a wild card. I I actually thought about inviting somebody on here who actually does believe that, but I wasn't sure how brutal that might be. One of our mutual friends out there, so we'll we'll just, let James stand in for him. I'm willing to bet James is gonna be more objective with his faking that position than somebody who actually that's my opinion. So Alright. Okay. Well, I'm gonna just throw it out to you, Jason, because you have done a lot of work, in the areas of military contracts, SpaceX. So you let maybe we could start there and see where it goes. Yeah. I mean, alright. Let's let's first start with the fact that Elon Musk 

is the number one defense contractor in the country right now. Now that's on a multitude of different levels, and then he checks every single Klaus Schwabian box you can imagine. So, you know, just to run through some quick things. During the COVID nineteen eighty four nightmare, this guy increased his, wealth by over six hundred percent. Okay? He beat out Bezos, Gates, Buffett, Page, Brin, and everybody else. How did he do that? He was sitting there talking about free speech and all this stuff. Well, number one, 

he was still ramping up, Starlink and the blackjack program, which is the classified Starlink, for space warfare and other maneuvers via the military. But number two, Tesla's not a car company. Shots via CureVac, also with the Optimus robot, which automation is coming. And right now, when I talk about STARLINK, the highest concentration of dishes in the world is in Ukraine 

where they are also hooking up to what ghost and sidewinder drones. This guy is a cookie cutout and and was literally, prophesied as what? The man of the year as he pushed the sustainability agenda, fifteen thousand dollar trailer pod home. So I I don't wanna hog up too much space here really quickly, but there are even more examples of this, especially when you get to human brain interfaces and Neuralink, which is DARPA Tech from now fifty plus years ago? 

I think for me, this is one of the strongest points. I'm just gonna say from, I'll start with specifically from a libertarian perspective because that's a community that I've, associated with over the years that anybody who considers himself a libertarian or even a conservative, let's say, people who don't who are usually argue against corporate welfare, subsidies, you know, people getting help from the government. It's clear that Musk's just so much of his career there's there's good articles out there literally listing all the different subsidies that his companies have gotten from from the governments and obviously the military intelligence connections. I feel like just 

anybody hearing this who likes Elon Musk for one reason or another that if you stand any anywhere on other grounds about standing against corporate welfare, that that should be, on principle, one reason not to support this person, not even getting into some of the deeper things. Just on the principle of his company and their practices and their corporate welfare with the US government. What do you think, Johnny YouTuber? Okay. Yeah. Alright. But, an oft repeated libertarian argument is that, look, the government's taking your money anyway, so you should take the money from the government that you can get from them and then use it towards 

good things. And isn't that what Elon Musk is doing? He's sending us to space. We're going to Mars. And, okay. You know, there's some there's some NASA military things, but that's the ballgame you gotta play at that level. But he's using it for good. And let's put it this way. Yeah. Brain chips. What's the libertarian position on brain chips? If you want a brain chip, should someone come in and be able to stop you from taking one? Of course not. So they should be available if you want to take one. It doesn't mean you have to take one. Right? It's just he's making that option available. 

And how else are we gonna beat the machine takeover other than by joining the machine? I mean, we have to become one with the AI consciousness in order to not be, swept under the rug of history. So look, you don't have to agree with me, but you can't stop him from doing what he's gonna do and, and saving free speech while he's at it. Let me just jump in on one point, and then people can deconstruct some other ones. Ones. This idea that you should just take government money and that you're using it for good is laughable. 

Once you have this fascistic, outwardly fascistic partnership and you're working with the defense department, the defense department has no no reason, no legal liability to tell you or anybody else the truth. And when you are working with weapon systems, you are using money not to empower but in slave humanity, especially when we're talking about autonomous drone warfare. So that's absolutely ridiculous. By the way, we're not going to Mars. I'm the chief scientist 

at NASA, repeating on a multiple occasions. The first things that will supposedly go to Mars are going to be nanobots that then survey the area. They will bring that information back. They will build a virtual world, and you will be able to visit it, Johnny YouTuber, in this virtual era that they create. So I'm sorry. That is incorrect, sir. Well, on top of that, I I think so the the World Economic Forum overlap and the great reset direction with Elon Musk and all the everyone's seen the videos and the comparisons. They're all fantastic points, and it's very relevant. But it always comes down to choice for me. Me. Right? As as Johnny YouTube is pointing out, well, shouldn't people have a right to to make these choices for themselves? And that's kinda what Jason's touching on is that, obviously, that's not really the premise here. They're already arguing that this is a moral obligation that we have to do this. Otherwise, we're you're killing grandma or whatever narrative we're we're sticking into this. Oops. And I and I think that's the important part of this is clearly it's about them. This is this is an idea being forced upon the people. So those things obviously don't connect. But the bigger thing to me is, 

obviously, there are people that as YouTube point guy is pointing out, that there are people that would want this direction. But the the issue is how all of the people right now in my mind, the biggest current problem that are pushing back against this, largely, I would argue in the two left right paradigm, the right side of the argument, are right now being manipulated with Twitter, Twitter files, Elon Musk, and the whole thing in order to get them, and I are I argue to go in line with this new direction. And this is the something Sam Husseini and I had a conversation about that he ultimately calls Trump the opposable thumb of the establishment. 

Not necessarily because Trump's aware that he's being used, but rather that Trump's actions, especially even if he especially if he doesn't know, are being used in to drive people into it. For instance, saying we shouldn't be funding NATO, and now we're funding NATO more than ever in a general sense. And so this is where we see and we discuss this, and I agree, Elon Musk playing a role in this same way, stepping in as the new Trump two point o concept in Twitter, and all these people are kinda rushing in behind it and seeing him as this new savior figure, whether it's just journalism, which is like the current obvious point that's being discussed, or whatever comes next. Because I think we're being trained in a very alarming way to take at face value what's being presented. And I think I think, again, the biggest point is where this all goes. The great reset, the overlap, the transhumanism. 

Right? That's where I wanna get into when we get there, the Neuralink overlap with the injection research and going all the way to Charles Lieber and all this stuff that seems to be going to a very alarming direction. There's a lot in that point there, but I think it all comes back to how the illusion of Elon Musk is being used to let all of this happen without people really pushing back against it. At least that's how I see it. If I may chime in, I would like to, put forth a a theory. It's just a theory. But I think Elon Musk was sort of chosen, 

long before the Twitter takeover to be sort of a personal savior, figure to at least a segment of of the population. And I think you can see this in his connection to the Iron Man movies. And I personally have never seen them because I don't really watch new movies. But, I I think actually, not Johnny YouTuber, but James Corbett did a, piece on, Elon Musk. Right? And then there he he gets into some of this, Talking about how robert downey jr 

As part of that movie modeled his character after tony stark or sorry modeled, tony stark after elon musk and this was made more explicit with his cameo and like the second movie and whatnot But so Musk is a Pentagon contractor. Right? And was at this time? And then the Pentagon had significant contracts with the Iron Man movies. Like, in totaling in the millions of dollars, I think it's very possible there was some sort of effort here to have, you know, like Jason pointed out, the number one, defense contractor be seen as, like, the guy that's gonna save us all, 

or as, like, you know, a a trustworthy figure that's, you know, doing all this innovative, upstarting, you know, game changing technology. We should trust him because he's like a superhero. Right? And that idea of a personal savior, I would argue, is super culturally ingrained in Americans and, you know, it's beyond the United States as well and that Hollywood is a long time driver of this stuff. The military, the CIA, all of these organizations, 

interface very intimately with Hollywood as a a means of propagandizing the population. And, why wouldn't they use Iron Man like that? And why would they want this Musk, Iron Man connection into place like Teslas and the movies and all of this stuff if they didn't want certain people watching that stuff, to associate Elon Musk with this cool superhero scientist guy that's doing all this cool stuff, and he's gonna he's looking he's saving the world. Avengers guys. 

Yeah. No. I I franchise. That guy's a schmuck. Someone sent, that, that Elon Musk technocratic huck Huxter episode to John Bush and on Facebook, he said something like, there's nothing new in here, nothing I haven't heard before. Therefore, it is just nonsense. Who cares? Whatever. Yeah. Iron Man, by Iron Man. That was that was a decade ago. None of that really matters. The point is, Elon Musk is the cool billionaire. He knows how to troll people on Twitter. And he is saving free speech. I mean, have you guys been reading the Twitter files? Come on. 

So let me jump in here again. Have to. I'm sorry, Johnny YouTuber. But you're talking about how this guy is saving free speech. Well, anybody who's following along even with the regular narrative on all of social media, they weren't making it a secret. They had teamed up with what authoritative sources and the World Health Organization that, what, doesn't have our best interest at heart. Number two, we still have no WikiLeaks type dump of any of the information that is out there that although is good, 

is extremely limited in its scope with names like Dan Bongino and Charlie Kirk that literally have millions of dollars behind their brand and product. And that's not to even come come down on them because at least Kirk is talking about transhumanism. And, but at the same time, lauding Musk. You have to let them do something that is already obvious. And let me say this, these are Trojan horse civilian systems that have a plausible, deniability circle in what they do. So Twitter still is openly 

employing former CIA, NSA, and FBI at the highest levels. We have still not seen the algorithm. Narrative management is absolutely still a thing there, and we should see all the documents since its inception and them working with the Department of Defense. And and I want, John, a YouTuber to understand, NASA is a part of that defense department. And to kinda get into where I wanna go and I and I wanna ask Ryan about this, the aspect 

of these mRNA shots, again, that were scaled up by Tesla, supposedly this guy's company, and he's got so many. You talked about it, Johnny YouTuber. He's got time to tweet all day, and he's running Tesla. He's running the boring company. He's running SpaceX. It's magic. I mean, how is he doing all this? Well, the bio nano era according to the chief scientist at NASA from a future strategic warfare document, okay, right here, supposedly, they knew in two thousand one, this is pre nine eleven in July, that that bionano era would happen in twenty twenty. No matter what you think about the shots, how they're the best thing since breakfast or the bioweapon, 

come home to roost from DARPA itself, billions of people took them in twenty twenty. The next deal is the virtual era that I'm talking about, and the World Economic Forum, Davos has essentially partnered with the metaverse. Last year, they had two forums on it alone, and it is the new global push. Because, Johnny, brain chip. Let me add one one thing in real quick. A great conversation here. I I popped on screen a moment ago. I'll show it again, this article. I'll put this in the the description. 

If anybody needs to learn more about what Whitney was talking about, the relationship between the Marvel movies and the military, Pentagon, and yeah. I mean, this is a a regular kind of relationship. In fact, I cover this in, the pyramid of power for anybody who hasn't seen it, the pyramid of power dot net. Chapter four is all about the Hollywood military intelligence complex. And this has been going on for for some time. So I would ask you, Johnny YouTuber, to really you know, when you're watching those Marvel movies and you're feeling so great about Elon being there and he's here to save the day, to recognize the relationship that, everyone here is pointing out to. 

Where should we go next? What do you got? What what's what's your other what's your other reasons for liking Musk, Johnny YouTuber? Is it his entrepreneurial spirit? He's, single handedly contributing to the underpopulation problem. Well, you know what? Let me let me briefly hit that. I'm sorry. We're fighting to fighting the underpopulation problem. Sorry. I got that. No. He's got a lot of kids apparently, and some we might not even know about. And he is one of the few people out there that openly 

discusses the idea that overpopulation is a myth. He's, given the bowling, ball reference. Right? He's also about that. You can't deny it. I I won't deny it. And there's another guy that says the same thing, and it's Ray Kurzweil. That we've only used nine or ninety five percent of the land has not been used and that basically by two thousand and thirty, renewable solar in particular harnessing only one ten thousandth of that will be able to distribute the populace wide, give us all the energy we need, and use the quote, unquote, metaverse and virtual universe 

to our advantage. He says that overpopulation is a myth. Everybody else does it that's employing Musk, including the people at NASA in this document that actually talk about world Population Stabilization, the author of which I have in twenty eleven talking about population control that changes everything. It's also in this document. They also talk about taking hold of the genetics, the genomic code of the human species 

and directing it in any way they want to. And when I say they, again, this is NASA. It's the good people at a space agency, supposedly. However, when you look who else is involved in this document, Musk has kinda echoed the same thing. When you start augmenting human beings with supposed AI hookups, who's writing the AI? Garbage in, garbage out. I would encourage people to go check out the limits of growth by the club of Rome. No matter what data they put in, it was population collapse. But they still wanna invoke this idea 

that we're destroying the planet. NASA very much behind that as well. And and that's the excuse to bring us in from the bionano era that they've started injecting people and normalizing mRNA. Let's not forget. Moderna had no products at all. They partnered with DARPA in twenty thirteen. Okay? In twenty sixteen, they patented a drug that has a twelve sequence DNA nucleotide, identical to the virus. And then their one product one product on the market is the COVID mRNA shots, which is CRISPR tech. Alright? And on top of that, the one that, their CEO is now promoting is one for heart attacks. You can have a heart attack, then they're gonna just directly inject 

the mRNA into your heart. How convenient. And it's hilarious because the guy interviewing him, points out that, boy, that's great that you made that possible. You didn't have any products on the market, and the only one that's driving that financially is your COVID vaccine. And I have to sit in la la land and act like that's a good thing, Johnny YouTuber. I I think there might be a little bit more than a coincidence there when you're talking about billions of dollars and the defense department. Sort of like Narcan and the opioid crisis. This is something we've seen before. You know? It's a Let's let's jump to the AI, the transhumanism thing you wanna talk about, Ryan. I know you wanted to get some, and I wanna get Johnny YouTuber's opinion on this because I wrote an article recently for TLav about the Neurolink presentation that Musk gave and then they showed the whole fake brain getting the seat sixty four threads in the brain and all this stuff. And, what the main reason I wrote that article is because anyone who talks about it, they just hear it's gonna help blind people see it, it's gonna help paraplegics. But when you actually listen to what Musk said in that presentation, 

he said what he said before, which is that we're we need to deal with AI rising up and, you know, maybe seeing us as useless and the best way to do this is to merge with it. He said something to effect that night. The best case scenario is that we get a benevolent AI, and then at some point, we merge with it, and we go along for the ride to see where it's at. Right? So his vision is very much like Jason's pointing out, merging with the AI, you know, transhumanism vision. And, again, I do believe people have bodily autonomy and the the right to do so if they want, but I don't think they really know what they're buying into. I'd like to hear from John, a YouTuber first, and then Ryan. I know you got some to add to this. 

Mhmm. Well, first, let me set could set the record straight on this vaccine stuff because I don't know what planet you're living on, but the planet I'm living on, planet YouTube, I know that Musk, has spoken out against the lockdowns and the COVID, COVID restrictions and everything since the beginning, since March of twenty twenty when he was saying that the coronavirus panic is is dumb or whatever he called it at the time. And I know that in September of twenty twenty, he said that his family 

wouldn't get vaccinated, because they weren't at risk of COVID. So there's that. Now I know in December twenty twenty one, apparently, he did say that he and his children had been vaccinated, but he had to say that because he was getting bad press at the time. So don't don't think too deeply on that. As to the machine upgrade interface, I mean, what's the alternative? Are you just going to sit there while everyone else is getting shipped? And what's that gonna make you? Ten years from now, twenty years from now, you're gonna be so outdated you're gonna be left behind. The robots are gonna finish the job and to just take care of the non upgraded humans. So I think, 

gotta gotta join them to beat them. Well, obviously, choice is the main point. I you know, you can't really argue against somebody saying we should have a choice to be able to take that route. Again, the point is that this is something that's being thrust upon the population without, you know, under a guise that it's the right thing to do. But the the prob the big issue for me, and I do wanna make sure we get back to the Twitter files at least at one point because I wanted to talk about that. But the the very alarming overlap here and this this ties in with everything we've just talked about, the the brain machine interface, the mRNA injections, how all of this ties back in the 

alarming overlapping research to going back to Charles Lieber when he, in two thousand eleven, discovered the lipid nanoparticle acts, the way to encapsulate these things in lipid fatty lipids and and able to inject them into cells and ultimately making virus sized transistors all the way back then. And then that very research being connected with the concept of finding ways to, you know, give amputees the ability to move arms again or, you know, Parkinson's disease and all the same stuff we're hearing from the Neuralink overlap, except the the research there was the same stuff we're now acting like was the saving grace for the mRNA injections. 

Interestingly enough, on a side point was the same thing they continue to do increasing lipid nanoparticles in the past, which is why they continue to fail. Nobody explains why doing the same thing today suddenly succeeded. But my concern is how these things overlap with the idea of right now what we're pushing with the BRAIN machine interface and the lipid nanoparticles, the the nanotechnology within these, and the big open question on top of all of that about whether or not there are other things in these injections that we don't know about. Now I was very resistant to this in the beginning. I guess not resistant, but very skeptical. And I think we continue to see more and more high level, very credible people begin to poke at this. 

Doctors, scientists, research groups saying we're finding things in this that we can't explain, whether that's graphene oxide or something else. I don't know. But the point is that we do have research going back as far as you wanna look. First, they've been researching this kind of technology saying that graphene oxide vaccination was the future. That's just one part of it. My point is that nanotechnology, the connection to the injections, the connection to what they're doing with the mRNA, with the brain machine interface, and every direction Elon Musk is taking this, it's impossible for for me not to think that there's an overlap with the agenda and how that's being driven. 

And then, again, with the guys of Musk being in this position, and as Whitney pointed out, prepping this for a long time before this and kind of lulling people into a position where we accept that if it's coming from Musk and his associated companies, then it can't be bad because he's on the right or whatever the argument becomes. And there's a lot of unknowns in that big discussion there, but I think the problem is very obviously that, one, the mRNA injections are clearly failing. I mean, obviously, in a catastrophic way and hurting people. And I wonder and this is actually something Whitney and I have talked about a couple of times, whether this, in part, 

was itself a test to try to achieve something, whether that's to suss out how this works properly or maybe execute some kind of experiment to find out how these things, you know, map out the human brain, meshing things. I mean, we've talked about the reaching the singularity. There's a lot of possibilities to flesh out, and there's scientific research to back up these exact directions. And then I guess the final point to add to that would be them routinely discussing between about two thousand seventeen or even before that up until right before this started, what they call moral bio enhancement from a compulsory level, forcing people to do this because they've decided it's the right thing to do without you knowing about it. So, I mean, all those pieces together, it's kinda hard to doubt that this could be 

something much more alarming than it looks like. Okay. So the thing I have to say about Neuralink is the following. So according to Neuralink itself, eight out of their twenty three monkeys died after getting the brain chip. Yeah. If you believe this other watchdog group, it was fifteen out of twenty three. Whoever you wanna believe, if any product, like, device, medical device is seeking FDA approval, and in your animal trials, 

eight out of twenty three die, are you gonna send that to human trials? If fifteen out of twenty three die, are you gonna send that to human trials? Probably not. But because of what's happened over the course of the COVID crisis, we've, you know, seen a a total gutting of any sort of illusion of of government, you know, regulatory stuff for products, particularly medical products. It's the FDA that also approves medical devices. And what do you know? The current head of the FDA is Robert Kalief, a former Google Health executive, 

who's all about approving all of this transhumanist medicine where you're basically seeing big tech and big pharma, merge with each other. And that's essentially, what I think we're seeing here. So it seems like it's going to get, greenlit and there, this twenty sixteen act, the Cures Act removed informed consent, from medical device, approval processes, technically for things that have a minimal safety impact, but I mean, you know, they're so corrupt they could argue that even though, you know, fifteen or eight out of the 

twenty three mice died, you know. I just think that's a really high number. Would you wanna sign up for a medical trial, where your chance of dying is that high? Or would you send that to the next thing? Is that what, like, you know, a super, benevolent, billionaire like Elon Musk would do just to make the blind see even though there's a bazillion video videos of him being, like, talking about commercialization of that and how it's, Okay, guys. Come on. Look. I know you guys don't spend all day on YouTube like I do, but the latest YouTube challenge is called the shallow water challenge, and it involves diving into a pool filled with six inches of water. 

My grandma tried it recently, and she's now a paraplegic. So, she's she can't type. And she's trying to text me all day, but she can't type. So Elon Musk is going to help my paraplegic grandma type again. And you guys wanna come in and stop that from happening? Alright. So so let me break it down. Shame. Alright. Because the first thing that I'm gonna tell you is number one, this idea that we're gonna get left behind. There are plenty of human brain interfaces that are already available and being utilized by the military that are just wearables. 

So for instance, you have now swarm drones of these small drones that are semi autonomous but are literally being guided by a soldier's thoughts. If you wanna see where the technology is and where they wanna take it, there is a great Rand piece that they all have out there, Brain Computer Interfaces, US military applications and implications, and this looks to, twenty forty in the future. Right now, you know, we talked about NASA. According to Dennis Bushnell, same guy behind the document, same guy who's the chief scientist right now, same guy who's been around since the Gemini days and has a slew of patents. 

He says in twenty eighteen, there are two hundred thousand people already with the brain chip, not the Neuralink brand. You can read about one of them here that isn't using it to walk again, okay, isn't helping grandma. No, it's just helping depression. And by the way, there's a new one out today I covered on my show. You can tell that she's over her depression because she's alone in the garden, heavily obese with a mask on her face. It's obviously worked. I think the main thing that we have to realize when we're talking about transhumanism, it is two different things. 

And going back to what Ryan said, the possibility of different things being, in the shots. Okay? First of all, we have a multitude of batches. We have a multitude of types of shots. You have the mRNA, which was Moderna, but you also had the vector based shots that were out there. And you also had those trials. Remember, they were warning about possible false, HIV, in Forbes. You think that I'm making that up. It was literally a mainstream article, and then it happened. And those were with the non mRNA. So they're you know, outwardly, 

there are different things in the shots. But they again, when I say they, the defense department doesn't have to tell you anything. The defense department is allowed to lie. It's called classification. Okay? And this is the partnership that they made. It's called Adept Protect. I'm glad to see people like Peter McCullough finally talking about this, but it was against contagions that they would identify, and then they would produce an mRNA spike protein within two or three days, right, very quickly, whether it's a a bio attack, by the way. It says, 

diseases that are engineered biological weapons, weird. And then you print up the mRNA, which Musk did, you know, because he's the best. He he scaled that up for Tesla. But there's a lot of partners and strategic collaborators when it comes to mRNA. Good people at AstraZeneca, you might have heard about them. Merck, Vertex, BARDA. There's DARPA, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Karolinka Institute, and the Institute Pasteur. All great people. Once you start taking this on and you work with them, there is a classification 

process. And as we saw with MK Ultra, what? Universities and private, private pharmaceutical, companies worked hand in hand with them, and we still don't know a multitude about that. So, you know, I think it's here. We're in the bio nano era. They are running experiments, but transhumanism, guys, it's two different things to them. Okay? So there's there's the transhumanism they want for us that they run the experiments on. Right? Because biologically, they think they're going to live forever. People like Jared Kushner have openly talked about it. And in fact, I would argue that people like Martine Rothblatt, 

for those unfamiliar, this is the person who wrote the book From Transgender to Transhuman. And in the very beginning, talks about billions of sexes. Guys, LGBTQ TQ plus has a long way to go. I promise you. This person wrote the book Unzip Genes in ninety seven. And in this, it advocates for no more nuclear family, no more natural birth. They're taking hold of genetics. And if you wanna have a kid yeah. Also the head of United Therapeutics 

that's doing xenotransplantation and printing up organs. So they wanna biologically live forever. The rest of us get the brain chips and the virtual universe and eventually the idea as we create entities that are very human like. Okay? The singularity, the age of spiritual machines, you're dumb enough to upload your consciousness to this virtual universe, AKA, you don't have a soul. That's not a real thing. There is no god. You you're another number. That's it. That's what this all is. And I'm not a part of that. You know? I know I I went on a little rant here, John, at YouTube, but I'm team humanity. 

You wigged out conspiracy theorists. You're always talking about the end of the world robots and stuff. We're here to talk about the Twitter files. What's going on? Come on. Real quick before we get past it, Jason and I had a really great conversation about that exact point. I don't know what we're gonna get into today, but it's an important conversation about whether or not the trans overrepresentation is really about normalizing the next logical step of transhumanism. You know, I it's an important conversation because I think overlap is impossible to miss. And I think one of the main points is that you only have a small fraction of the population that's representing a a very large portion of policy, and there's something to that, I think. And, you know, then we got the fourth industrial revolution 

and merging bio, you know, everything they're talking about. Like, it seems to be that exact direction. Let me jump in just really quick on that because I you know, we can't marginalize that the person that wrote that book. Okay? You can get all these on Amazon, by the way, from transgender to trans a manifesto on the freedom of form. Okay? This is, again, the, virtually human person in unzipped jeans. You know who writes a forward to virtually human? That is, of course, Ray Kurzweil. Ray Kurzweil heads up the immortality division at Google. Alright? Again, 

Google and the defense department are the same thing. They work with NASA on quantum computing. That's AI. And then they work on immortality with Ray Kurzweil. So Martine Rothblatt, hands down, is the richest, most powerful transhumanist, aka transgender person on the planet. There is not another. This is a multibillionaire that headed up SiriusXM and wrote a law a lot of the lawfare regarding satellites. So when the most powerful transgender 

person on the planet is writing these books and founding these companies and actually doing it. I don't know. I'm paying attention. I'm I'm connecting the dots. I'm not Colombo, guys. I'll admit it. He's probably better. But give me a break. Ryan, go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead, Winnie. Well, I was just gonna say to take the conversation back to Elon Musk about transhumanism. I would like to point out that a lot of his narrative I'm not sure if it came from here, but it's the same narrative and he funds them. I saw it Oxford. There's the Future of Humanity Institute funded by Musk, 

and they're the people that run that are the ones that have argued since, I guess, the, you know, two thousand seven or so that we have to merge with AI to beat AI. Like, it's, you know, inevitable the inevitability, reasoning, behind this. But, I forgot the other thing I was gonna say. Oh, no. Yeah. So the Future of Humanity Institute shares an office with, the, the philanthropy the effective altruism group that was, basically running Sam Bankman Fried and FTX. 

So and then you have the weird overlap there with how the Center for Effective Altruism also basically was very involved with, the financing of event two zero one through the Open Philanthropy Group and Dustin Muscovitz, Facebook cofounder. This is basically a mafia of big tech people who are obsessed with this and wanna take it there whether they they like it or not. So for example, let's talk about Elon Musk and Epstein a little bit since he's another transhumanist. Right? But it's also relevant to this big tech idea. 

Elon Musk is the guy that allegedly was introducing Jeffrey Epstein to Mark Zuckerberg at these Edge meetings. Edge, was John Brockman, the publisher's, you know, meeting of, imp important minds in science and culture that was basically a front for Epstein. He was basically, solely financing it for a long portion of its existence. Amazon, Google, Elon Musk, of course, with it being Amazon, Google, Elon Musk, of course, with it being Tesla, SpaceX, and all these other companies. 

And, they're all, you know, hanging around together. And Elon Musk and his it's worth talking about his brother for a little bit, as well. So his brother ended up dating a woman in Epstein's entourage, one of Epstein's girlfriends. And this led to Epstein getting a tour of SpaceX in, like, twenty twelve. So Kimbal Musk is on the board of SpaceX and of Tesla. He's also a, young social entrepreneur for the Schwab Foundation, 

the Schwab Foundation being the foundation of Klaus Schwab, of the World Economic Forum and, apparently, potentially blackmailed by Epstein to some extent. No one likes to talk about Kimball Musk for some reason, but he's, definitely, worth looking at when you consider this, you know, oh, I'm Elon Musk, and I'm introducing Jeffrey Epstein to Mark Zuckerberg stuff. And then you also have, as I noted in my book, one of the major suppliers to Tesla is a company called LS Power, which has direct links to ASSA Properties, which is the the, 

I guess realty company that manages that's run by Jefferies, Epstein's brother, Mark Epstein, and owned the apartments where a lot of the sex trafficking activities in New York City were ongoing. So, you know, there's some odd ties there that speak to intelligence ties here. And one of the main drivers for most of the past twenty years and arguably much earlier, of a lot of these technologies that are leading to transhumanism, it is the military intelligence industrial, 

complex, a hundred percent. And, you know, speaking again to this, you know, specter of intelligence ties, I would say is the Starlink stuff, so somehow Starlink against the will of the Iranian government became active in Iran, So what does that mean? That means that and Elon Musk promoted this, by the way, that it was in there. So that got in by one of two means. It was smuggled in either by US or Israeli intelligence, and so a Musk is an accessory to that, you know. So it's there there's some interesting stuff going on there. Is that the guy you want making the chip, 

that goes in your brain? And then, again, to bring this back to, what I mentioned, earlier about him sort of being a construct, if you think about him just being a billionaire in general, most of his companies wouldn't exist without massive government subsidies. I mean, he's a guy swimming around with a lot of these people there and has a lot of the same ideas, and maybe he can have have that same time type of, I guess, let's call it a social bond that Trump had with his supporters 

because he's like, look how funny Trump is because he made fun of Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio on TV. I mean, yeah, that's cool because they both suck, but that doesn't mean like Trump's policies are gonna be great. Right? It's entertaining. It's a circus. And so like Elon Musk can can do all of that. But I think, again, he was primed for this personal savior role. He was primed to be a billionaire and doable all these other things. And like I, said on a recent podcast, it seems to me that a lot of the Twitter file stuff is very similar to what happened with, a few years ago with Pierre Omidyar and The Intercept, which effectively laundered, 

Pierre Omidyar's intelligence linked reputation and sort of recast some of the of this guy that's gonna protect adversarial journalism, and then the intercept, basically becomes a honeypot for whistleblowers and sends three of them to prison, even though it was supposedly, you know, founded to establish the Snowden links and then doesn't publish ninety percent of the Snowden links and blah blah blah. But it sure made Pierre Omidyar look good, and same thing with Elon Musk and the Twitter files. Right. But like Jason said, he's still employing a lot of these same intelligence guys. He has his own intelligence connections, 

and he's using Twitter to feed the AI. And he also, is a cofounder of OpenAI, which has just put out this chat GPT thing where people are interacting with AI more than ever. You know, the brain chip is the next step, but we're already through through this viralization of things like chat GPT. We are interacting so much with AI. It's learning from us, but it's also manipulating us. The more people that come to rely on that, like kids at school is becoming a controversy with that particular thing, that feed questions into it and, like, use it for their homework and all that stuff. They're reading these ideas put out by this AI, and it's basically, 

over time, can be used to manipulate their thoughts and persuade them. Who is this being programmed by? And is AI starting to modify us before we've even merged with it? Yeah. I think it's getting to that point because think about how, you know, over time as these convenient technologies over the past hundred or something years have emerged, humans become increasingly enable of doing that thing. Before calculators, more people did mental math. Now there's a calculator, and you never do that kind of math in your head or on paper anymore. Right? And it's harder for you to do it. But what happens when the AI starts to speak for us because it knows us so well? Why do you think Elon Musk acquired Twitter, 

and, you know, has stuff in OpenAI and he's, you know we have to merge with benevolent AI. He's gonna create it. And if you think about this whole idea of data as the new oil, whoever becomes the owner of the most data is gonna be the guy that's on top. He's gonna be the Rockefeller of the data era as opposed to the oil era. Right? And that's exactly what Elon Musk is setting himself up for, one hundred percent. And that's part of why Alright. So the entire clip, Corbett Report, 

TLav, Jason Bermas, Derek Bros, Whitney Webb, they've all got it. You could see the whole thing. But that ties it up. I mean, if you've been paying attention for the past seven hours and you can load all that RAM of what we've said since we started, you're coming to a conclusion all by your lonesome that we don't really have to say. Right, Tony? You get it. If your ram is big enough for seven hours of attention span, you can outgrow your status quo, separate yourself from the herd, no longer be subjugated, 

and have a chance at freedom for you and your next generations. What do you think? Yeah. At this point, I think we made it more than conspicuous in regards to the connection We're trying real hard to make it conspicuous. I mean, it's as obvious as it can possibly be at this point. And you can see the interconnection with intelligence, with, AI, with technocracy, which is a social engineering through AI. You know, the the the control not only of financial markets, but of human biology itself and emerging not only with machines with the possibility of extending life. And these people are essentially what Rich put on screen at the beginning of the show. Was it Homo Deus? 

Yeah. Yuval Noah Harari. I got it right. One of the key sort of philosophers. I think he's at a a Jewish institution. Here, let me just start. Let me just do it like this. Israeli. They're dumbing us down so they can have homo Deus where humans become God. And then they can have the singularity with Ray. Yeah. Right? Now, Ray and who's the Yukon professor that wrote the time travel book? I forget his name. But both points are 

Ray Kurzweil, his dad died when he was young. So he wishes he had time traveled so he could go back. And Ronald Mallet, who I've interviewed before, Yukon professor, wrote a book called The Time Traveler. He also wanted to create time travel to go back and save his dad. So, people with personal experiences that maybe they should have gone to therapy for are now trying to change your world, your future, your timeline, your kids' future because they got big ideas. Now, I was elated when I went and got this off the shelf. This is a great big thick book. 

Singularity. Big thick book. I looked in here. It's published two thousand and five and there's no mention of Elon Musk in here at all. So at that time in two thousand and five, Elon Musk is not even on this guy's radar. And that brings the question, is Elon Musk a recent face man, just like Zuckerberg, to represent ideas of DARPA in the industrial complex? The reasonable hypothesis. Oh. It's reasonable theory. I don't know if it's something we can necessarily test, but certainly reasonable theory based on the evidence that exists thus far, 

considering, the fact that he took a lot of what were DARPA proposed projects and ended up being the front man for, you know, allowing for the space to for it to go to consumer markets. So we have now Starlink. You have, yeah, although he didn't take up LifeLog, which then became Facebook, he certainly, you know, connected to, that's just by virtue of being a part of the technology sector. You have this connection to Peter Thiel and the way in which most people or many people utilize digital commerce in regards to PayPal. 

And you have the, you know, connection with his interest in Tesla, all of which weren't his own creation, all of which he able he was able to sort of gain ownership much the way he gained ownership of Twitter, just buying stocks and gaining ownership to publicly traded companies. And then from which or from there, he sort of takes the idea that it was his when in fact it wasn't. You know, I go back to the Greg Reiss report, how much of his life has been a facade, and how much of his life is sort of a fake in regards to his fake intelligence, his fake companies, his fake wealth from his family that's sort of, you know, from being, 

emerald dealers. There's there's a lot to be desired in regards to Elon Musk. I mean, everything about him is bad. South African. South African, that too. Not against South Africa, but just a Cecil Rhodes. Milieu. Right? Anyone It just has that overhanging. Yeah. There's a lot of Anglo American establishment ideals being represented by that young man. That specter is sort of, like, hanging over. Actually, we're, like, the same age probably. So he's not so young anymore. So it's reasonable to consider. I mean, it really is because he's not really an innovator in the sense that he's the one coming up with these great ideas, these great businesses. He takes it over, and he seems to control the way in which they're 

the way in which they're developed or the way in which they develop and innovate new technology. And he seems to be the forward facing sort of communication for that knowing that he you know, Tesla or SpaceX rather doesn't happen by accident. Same with Bezos having control of Blue Origin. My buddy worked there. He said it's all top military brass. Like, they're no longer part of the military. They're not working in the private sector, but it's run very bureaucratically, very top down, very sort of, hush-hush with you know, it's and they're their main competitor. So it's sort of like a false dialectic setup with these two, 

you know, private sector corporations that we, you know, are sort of set up for what are really DARPA projects, it seems like. I think it's a reasonable theory to consider. You know? We'll have to see over time what plays out and whether or not that's ultimately true, but there's certainly a lot of evidence in support of that. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. There's a lot more to be learned on that topic. Yeah. Now before we go to, wrapping up this episode and before we go to, playing this next clip from the past because we're gonna do a flashback from two thousand nine here in a few minutes. 

You know, we talked about, a lot of things tonight. We talked about, the goal setting workshop, which you guys can still enjoy. We talked about the launch of Jay Dyer's course. We just saw during intermission a whole bunch of people listed here on the Autonomy Agora, your one stop shop for liberation. And, those people might have been James Corbett and Derek Brose, among others. Right? So if you wanna get your learning on and you're not up to speed and you don't wanna do autonomy, that's all well and good. But keep your development growing. 

Keep your interpersonal communications flowing. Do these sort of things for yourself in twenty twenty three. And, that's market place dot autonomy agora dot com brought to you by the folks who sponsored that whole intermission of tasty vittles pertaining to Elon Musk. Now, before we get to this flashback from two thousand and nine, we have a situation. So we talked about the Second Amendment. We talked about this, brace being outlawed. 

Forty million people becoming felons overnight eventually if this law goes through without resistance and repeal and these sort of things, right? So don't panic yet, but clock appears to be ticking. And we showed you guys some basic fundamentals of at least how to check and clear a weapon, right? A pistol. And then there's a bunch of Second Amendment people here. They're like, You look, you just can't show airsoft all night. You have to show something from an example. So I brought you another example. 

I cleared the desk for this. Let's see. We might have to go to let's go to a document camera. Let's put this on the table. This is a Sig Sauer. Some people call it a Sig Sauer. Now some of you were laughing already. Don't say anything yet. This is Sig Sauer. It's got, let's see it says Sig right there. It's got your laser sight, all this sort of red dot. There you go. Right? Right? Right? Might have a can on the front. Oh my goodness. 

Can you have a can? Are you allowed to have these accoutrements? Oh, it's got a strap on it. Oh my goodness. Is that the stock that they just outlawed? No. No. You guys are panicking again. Again, just making the point that an air rifle made by six hour is the air rifle. Actually, it's not a BB gun. Technically, it's a pellet gun. And let me make sure that the magazine is unloaded. Let's show you the magazine. Here's the magazine. Look, pellets. There 

are pellets in there. And there is a safety switch on here. There's a safety. And you got, it's not ambidextrous, but you could have a safety, right? That'd be red as dead. That's no fire. It also could be cleared and then we could visually, you know, but it's a BB gun. So we're gonna put it back on the desk and we're gonna stop being scared of things we don't understand. And we're gonna start to look at reality maybe with, curious eyes to say, Hey, I'm not sure what that is. 

How would I identify if that was, you know, a pellet a pellet pistol, a pellet rifle, a pellet carbine, these sort of things. Right? This is not dangerous. There's no magazine in here. Chamber's been cleared. It's not a real firearm, but treat all firearms as if they're loaded. So I'm still gonna respect it. I'm still not gonna put my finger in the trigger. I'm gonna treat it with respect. I'm not gonna flag you. Right? We're good. But some of you had a lot of fear just because, you know, there's a pellet gun on the table. 

And the only way to dispel fear is with a method to take that fear and transmute it into knowledge, understanding, wisdom, experience. It is not given to you at school, but neither was the second amendment nor the first amendment nor anything else. Self responsibility to have freedom, there's benefits, And there's the work you gotta put in to maintain, attain, retain that type of freedom. So becoming knowledgeable in not just your first amendment, your second amendment, third, fourth, fifth, all your rights. These are not rights 

for just Americans. They're human rights as is the right to defense, as is the right to practice with things that might have similar ergonomics to actual and factual things you would use for your defense. That would be the purpose of this platform, by the way. Ergonomics, repetition, not having to spend a whole bunch of money on ammunition, not having to make a bunch of noise. I bought this during the first week of the pandemic. I said, if everyone's going to be locked out, at least I can get some target practice off the back porch. So before you guys go, we'll jump into conclusions. 

Again, the CO2 is here. This is not a brace type of stock. Nothing going on here. You can get this on Amazon. Go ahead. Not Amazon. Don't pay Bezos. Go to your local sporting goods store and have them special order you on because they probably won't have it in inventory. That's the gist. Alright. Enough said about that. Let's go back to two thousand nine. Let's get in our time machine back to a show called conspiracy theory with Jesse Ventura, a younger, 

more hirsute Alex Jones, and a woman named Rima Labeaux, very interesting person in history, who was married to a former general of special operations at the Pentagon that ran psychological warfare operations named Stubblebine. Very interesting character in history as well. Don't judge. Just take in the information and juxtapose it to what you know now. And then, dig in and maybe you'll learn more. Let's go to that clip and then we'll bring it back and we'll thank everyone who supported the show tonight. Thank you, guys. 

Jesse Ventura's conspiracy investigators have tracked down the deadly secret behind the elite group that tries to rule the world. When the population gets too big to handle, the solution is cut it down. There's an entire agenda afoot to force the population to undergo different type of medical treatments, namely vaccines. We're seeing a medical tyranny being set up, not just in the United States, but worldwide under the UN and the World Health Organization. They want a planetary dictatorship 

so they can carry out their forced depopulation agenda, and they want to do it through the medical system. And that's why vaccines are so important. We know that many of these vaccines turn out to have serious adverse reactions. This is being done by design. They kill you slowly over time. That's why they're called soft kill. We must must acknowledge that the genetic COVID nineteen genetic injections cause far more harm than good and provide zero benefit relative to risk. The death rates from this vaccine 

are there's been more deaths in eight months than in all the billions of vaccines combined over the last thirty years. Fifty percent of the deaths occur within forty eight hours, eighty percent within a week. And I've got an insider I think you should really talk to, doctor Rima Labo. In a very short time, not today, not tomorrow, but very soon, we'll be facing compulsory vaccination under the mistaken term of voluntary vaccination. Now what is it about these vaccinations? You think that they're bad? Well, first of all, let's start with the fact that the World Health Organization 

has decided that we have ninety percent too many people. The World Health Organization has been working since nineteen seventy four on vaccines to create permanent sterility. Now this is pretty shocking. This process has already been ongoing. To make matters the a substance called squalene. Squalene, an organic compound used in vaccines 

to stimulate the immune system and increase the response. Of your body. What does that look like when you meet a person to whom that is happening? It looks like Gulf War Syndrome. It looks like every joint in the body swollen and intolerably painful and immobilized. This is in these shocks they're gonna give us? In some of them, but the US government has a trick up their sleeve. Which is? They will 

induce a pandemic using the nasal mist vaccine, which is a live attenuated virus. That means that if I take it, I can infect you. You're going to get the flu. Everybody around us is going to get the flu. Yes. It's startling, but it's over in a moment. That's it. It's all done. A new report tonight that early CDC coronavirus tests were probably contaminated. Why didn't they work initially? The post reports the cross contamination 

most likely occurred because chemical mixtures were assembled into the kits within a lab space that was also handling synthetic coronavirus material. A production firm in Luxembourg said that core parts of the test have been contaminated with coronavirus. This was reported by The Telegraph. Now the best protection against COVID nineteen could be by going up your nose. What nasal or mucosal vaccines do, they concentrate the immune protection in the upper airway. We do have a nasal spray vaccine for influenza virus, so called flu mist, which has not been a game changer. So I'm a little skeptical about how this nasal spray vaccine will work out. But Then the United States government, based on their 

statements that they've already made, will say, oh my. We have a pandemic. According to the CDC's own literature, the tests do not rule out bacterial infection or other viruses. They are detecting all varieties of coronavirus, including the common cold and counting it as COVID nineteen. I mean, the great thing about having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to market as COVID nineteen infection, 

the intent is right now that those if someone dies with COVID nineteen, we are counting that as a COVID nineteen death. We aren't pressured to test for flu, but ER doctors now, my friends that I talk to say, you know, it's interesting. When I'm when I'm writing up my death report, I'm being pressured to add COVID. Why is that? Why are we being pressured to add COVID to maybe increase the numbers and make it look a little bit worse than it is? People lining up, sometimes by the hundreds, for an h one m one flu shot. 

What that means is a holocaust, a genocidal holocaust. Men and women will sicken and die, and those who survive will be infertile. If people start dying massively from these inoculations, won't there be like a revolution, a rebellion, a rising up from the peasants? That's interesting because we don't have a time machine, and we did not go back and make that clip. That appears to be a historical artifact 

that we had all seen, you know, ten years ago, twelve years ago. It's been a long time since they made that conspiracy theory show. And it appears to show a younger Alex Jones, a younger Jesse Ventura. I'm not sure if Rima LeBeau is still with us or not, but she seemed to be pretty informed on it. And we either have We have a choice there. They are soothsayers who can see the future and they have a magic ball and they look into it and they can tell the future. Or or they've read the business plans of the people doing these things that continue on today. What do you think, Tony? 

They read the business plans. The white papers, the business plans, the business plans Not so much mysticism, more objective learning literacy? Objective learning literacy. You know, they actually decided to read. Reading is fundamental. Although it's frowned upon. If you're a slave, you're not supposed to know how to read. Literacy, if you taught a slave how to read, you could be killed for that because it ruins the value of the slave. Or at least you'd have to pay for the slave because you've ruined a slave if you teach them how to be literate back in the day. Well, it's a little different today because there's plenty of people that read, but they don't read 

substantial books and and media. So, you know, kudos to, obviously, Alex Jones and but they play fantasy football, like, dude, they're good. They got two teams going on. Fiction. People read fiction left and right. So people read, but it's now the the idea is, okay, if people are gonna read, let's just money the waters with all sorts of meaningless, you know, Let's wokify it. Yeah. Wokify it as well. Change the neighborhoods around things. Yeah. Change definitions. Woo. What is woman? We don't know anymore. 

Apparently, that's what happens when you Well, I mean, that's what they want you to believe. I Believe it or not. Technically, I know, but I'm not allowed to say anything anymore because, oh, you're canceled. Canceled. Oh, you can't you can't talk about firearms. You'll get canceled, you know, these sort of things. Like, we need to break those taboos, otherwise we're all going to be talking to each other in a Gulag camp with no wifi access. It's not going to be fun. It's not like those camps they had in Australia or at least you had communications. Or maybe they didn't. Maybe they had a blackout. We need to talk to some of those people that were down there because they're still building those camps. And, it's a thing. It's gonna continue going on 

until people are smart enough not to let it go on anymore. Like, much agreed. I mean, unfortunately and it's much more even of, a truism and reality in China right now. I know they've eased up a little bit, in regards to their zero COVID policy, but I know there's a number of camps across the entire, the entire sort of Chinese area. It's almost like you're just ferreting out the resistors in the first phase. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, China is the perfect test ground for it even more so than I would argue Australia, but both are pretty pretty good for it. 

Australia, I don't know. I've heard different reports from sort of people who live there in regards to how effective or how useful or how utilized they really were. But now the thing is they're there. And what happens if another pandemic, which according to Bill Gates is guaranteed to happen again within the next sometimes He and Fauci can predict pandemics. Yeah. Apparently. They also seem to fund the Just them. Logical institutes that, you know, just, that happen to be implicated and potentially working on viruses. Just happened to be 

doing the thing. They're like the Peter Powers of pandemics. Right? Peter Powers, London seven seven. Mhmm. He was there doing drills of a subway bombing, and then magically, the things they were drilling for happened to go on, and he could switch from what was his quote? From quick time to slow time reacting to quick time thinking or whatever his stupid quote was. And I'm like, dude, you from visor consultants just admitted on the BBC that you were doing the same thing. Like, the it's just such a cliche of them running drills at the same time as terrorists. Like nine eleven. And no one told this guy not to say the quiet part out loud. So he was like, oh, yeah. We were running the drill that morning of those three things that happened at those three places. 

And then conveniently, no one told him MI6 was going to capitalize on those drills and raise their budgets. That's the gist. Yep. It it happens all lot all the time. And boogie man called terrorism, which is just like a virus because you can't see it. It's nebulous. It's abstract. Never sure where it's gonna strike. So it's, you know, these these perfect perfect sort of concepts and abstractions utilized in order to cause unwarranted fear in a mass population that is already conditioned. 

You know, if you take, what's his name? The idea is a mass formation psychosis. You know? They're already untethered to reality. Yeah. Yeah. And they're already And, Desmond. McDonald and Desmond. Yeah. I'm a tease. Doesn't matter. But they're already As opposed to Dunning and Kruger. I mean, Dunning and Kruger is a goes in effect with it, but they're already sort of conditioned in a state of of being untethered to reality, which is is a major component. So they're looking for someone to explain that reality for them when embraced with the fearful. So it's really just it's it's a mass Stockholm syndrome. It's fear based, 

trauma based mind control, these sorts of ideas. It's there's many different synonyms we could utilize to describe really the same process, but that's what's going on. That's what will continue to go on unless people sort of become aware. The opposite of trauma based mind control? Happiness based liberation? Something like that? Happiness is a state of being that's transitory. I would say something that where you at least you maintain a sense of your own autonomy and Integrity based. Yeah. Integrity based is better. Yeah. Yep. 

Alright. Cool. Alright. So we've got that, on the record now in the time capsule. Those things were said back in two thousand nine. They may or may not resemble pretty accurately what just happened for the past three years, but I leave you to be the judge of such things. And now with that, I'm gonna go to, fellow marksman LD, who's going to load it up over there on his end. He's going to let us know, aside from our thousand plus wonderful, superlative members of the Grand Theft World community, 

thank you guys all because you make all the difference. Who else do we have to thank for tonight's event, gala, and firearm safety demonstration? Alright. Let's, So sound of freedom right there. Thirty out six. It's not empty. Not anymore. So thanks to the Rockfin Tippers. We had Nick the sound guy, five dollars. Hey, fellas. My wife is telling me that she needs to be more antifragile 

and that she's getting tired of my scarcity mindset. What can I do? Go to the next seminar with her and be a graduate. First off, Nick, thanks thanks for the question. To John Massaria, happy birthday because his birthday is today. LD, you've got headphones coming your way. Tony, are you still working out? Is that what you're rocking right now? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My girlfriend is the other pair, and then I have JM Audio Editions. The ones with the balance connectors, the four pin. So, anyways, I got the fancy ones, but they're all And yeah. And John donated, 

I was gonna buy them. Lisa was gonna buy them for my son's birthday, but John was nice enough he contributed. So my youngin is gonna be able to hear Clapton like he was in the studio and not through some bogus iPhone speakers like most other kids here. He's gonna be able to hear in true clarity. So thank you, John. And thank you, Nick. And thank you, Aaron, for encouraging Nick to, become more antifragile. Hell, yeah. And happy birthday, John. Thanks for sending me some headphones. 

Excited to try those out. Dave and Laura, twenty dollars. Just received our tickets for pork fest and hope to see you guys there. I will bring be there. Venison and maple syrup. ATF aside, I think, is it a hundred and twenty days? So we'll have to we're gonna be at pork fest, but we're not giving up our rifles. So we'll see. See you there. Knowing the rifles. No. I'm just kidding. But you can bring guns. So there you go. It looks good in the transcript. I'm balancing it out. 

It's court case in the future. Don't worry about it. Dave said, I'll bring the venison and maple syrup. Be fruitful and multiply, and you know the thing. Yeah. And we need, cheese too. Cheese, venison, and maple syrup is how it works. Yeah. Tea can Many thanks. Thank you, guys. Tea can, five dollars. Thanks, GTW. Jeremy Austin, 

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Three hours, and, I keep it a little bit I'm keeping it more condensed and confined this year. Gonna make sure I cut it off around ten because of, schedule scheduling purposes of work and whatnot, but still three, four hours come participate. Have Yeah. Tony's on a robot. He needs sleep too. Yep. Yep. I had to sort of limit it this year before we I let it it was fantastic. The conversation you have going to one, two in the morning after a forty eight hour turnaround from GTW could be a little intense. So keep into closing up around ten o'clock PM. But three hours to come discuss, share a conversation with people in the GTW community. 

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Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you guys so much. Thanks to everyone listening in, and, hope to see you guys at the town hall or the book club. In some weeks, I feel like I'm shooting at LD's feet, and he's doing a dance because I don't give him a heads up of what the clip is. So I've been trying now that I have a better monitor set up, I can I can let him know here's the next clip? He has time to find it, and it's less like, let's see how fast he can be. So, I'm looking to improve, not only our ability to communicate to you, but the overall experience of that communication. 

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flowing easily between we and you. Thank you guys all for tuning in tonight, not dropping out. And, who do we have to play us out tonight? What do we got? I saw the, recent What's Her Face. I don't think that's probably the thing we need to play. It's a bit of a We have something from JP. Yeah. Yeah. I gotcha. He's gonna be at the, the Greater Reset coming up on the eighteenth. Don't forget to get your, your tickets, the Greater Reset Conference, and, you know, we'll see you there. Peace. Have a good day, everyone. 

To be a real man, you need to know how to suppress your emotions. If you're watching this, it means you're not a real man yet. So listen up. Nothing handicaps your journey into manhood more than feminine emotions and the feminine emotions happen to be all of them. Scientifically speaking, emotions are the same thing as estrogen so having them makes you a woman. The one exception is the emotion of happiness because it has the word penis in it. So that's the only emotion acceptable for men to feel. So what can you do when your manhood is threatened with emotions? 

Answer? Take matters into your own hands and suppress them. Here's three easy ways to do that. Emotional suppression technique number one, acquire an avoidant personality disorder. The beauty of an avoidant personality disorder is that your inner wisdom helps you avoid people and situations that could trigger emotions and their non binary stepsister feelings. This personality dysfunction is a sign of strength that functions to make you stronger. Now conflict with your spouse or potentially 

any interaction with her threatens to generate feminine feelings like sadness, anger, or I think that's all of them. But your avoidant personality disorder helps you avoid your wife at just the right time which is most of the time so you can avoid feeling emotions. But JP there's just one problem. What if my childhood wasn't traumatic enough to bless me with a talent of this personality disorder? Well, that's like having a childhood where you didn't even learn to walk but there's hope for you because with enough determination 

you can learn this disorder. Here's how. Anytime your wife has that look in her eyes like she just wants to talk, immediately walk out of the room. But if she follows you, then walk into the garage and start fixing And if you don't have anything to fix, then start breaking so that you have to fix. But if your wife follows you into the garage, then leave the house for between two and thirty seven hours, then come back when she's in bed. But if she somehow catches you anyway and says we need to talk, that means you didn't get out early enough and you'll need to fake a heart attack. Alternatively, 

you can have a real heart attack. Emotional suppression technique number two, hold your breath. Now if you feel a surge of emotion coming on the last thing you wanna do is let it out because that'd be like being in the middle of restaurant and you feel a big poop coming on and you just let it out. That's bad manners. So what do you do? Hold your breath. Here's how to do that. Holding your breath is basically contracting the anal sphincter of your emotions. God wouldn't have given you one if you weren't meant to use it. It. When the emotional surge hits your contracted emotional sphincter of you holding your breath, it'll go back down to where it's supposed to be 

deep inside of you trapped forever. But what if you're holding your breath and the emotion still wants to come out? Answer, keep holding your breath because eventually you'll pass out. Then when you wake up, the concussion you receive from hitting your head on the way down will be sufficient enough to render you temporarily, if not permanently, incapable of expressing emotions. The only downside to this technique is you may require ongoing medical assistance, but that means just having a sexy nurse around you all day. So it's actually all upside. Emotional suppression technique number three, stay in your head. Let's just say your wife is starving for emotional connection because she probably is and she's desperately wanting emotions out of you so she can selfishly 

feel safe, protected, and loved. What do you do? Answer, stay in your head. The more emotional she is, the more logical you need to be. Seek to rationally explain away everything she's rambling about in as much intellectual detail as possible. This means when she's explaining her feelings to you, logically enlighten her about why she shouldn't be feeling that way. Take a look at the process in action. You shouldn't be feeling that way. Discounting her emotions is like putting an electrical fence up around your yard to keep your dog inside. 

The only difference is it's not your dog, it's your wife, and you're trying to keep her out. Now faking emotions Empathy is basically when a wounded animal wants you to limp with it, and you do that by pretending to feel the same emotion that she's feeling. And let's face it, because she's a woman, she's probably feeling sadness. Here's how to do that in three easy steps. Write the name of the emotion on your hand as a reminder. Step two, in the heat of the conversation, 

check your hand. Step three. Pretend to feel sad with her and now you're limping with her because that's how you do empathy. Just like the age old wisdom has it, if there's one thing better than boobs, it's fake boobs and it's no different with emotions. The faker, the better. Frequently asked questions. Question, JP, what happens if I cry during a movie? Answer, go immediately to your doctor and get your penis x rayed because what they'll find is it's actually a giant clit and you should be ashamed of yourself. Question. 

My therapist says it's bad for me to suppress my emotions and I should work on expressing them more. Answer. If you're seeing a therapist, it means you're not a real man, you're actually a woman. So congratulations, you just had your gender reveal party. In conclusion, just like the well formed calluses on your man hands, these tried and true emotional suppression techniques will help your entire being be just as thick, tough, and full of dead skin, which is a win for you and probably nobody else. Tune in next time as we continue our journey into real manhood with a lesson on how to work out like a real man. It won't be what you think. But until then, stay hard and stay disconnected. 

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