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the lunacy, and the irony because, that's just the way we do it. This just in before the show started, Axios has announced that Trump has a, a statement out. The statement says something to the following. Jeffrey Epstein had no client list and committed suicide. There's nothing to see there. Tonight's special, little known outlet, tonight's special guest is a little known outlet from the sunny climbs of Japan. We're gonna be deep diving into the incredible 

and indelible work of James Corbett. And it's gonna be live, not pretaped because we are up all night, and he's on the other side of the world. Joining me also tonight, Scott Armstrong and Charlie Robinson. And, if you look closely, we have moved the studio. This is thirty miles away, or it's thirty minutes away from where the studio was. I just got done hooking it up, and, so let's sacrifice a Tootsie to the tech gods and hope that it all works tonight. And, Tootsie Roll is not a reference foreshadowing any Diddy trial coverage that concluded this week. We don't have time for that. So let's get fact up. Scott and Charlie, good evening. 

Charlie just got back from the Jeff Madine Truth Art Festival in Colorado, in Pueblo, Colorado. I think it might even still be going on right now. Charlie, how are you doing? Fantastic. Just back from Pueblo, Colorado, Third Eye Carnival, and the, Truth Art Show that Jeff put on. This is now, I think, the fourth time I've been down there. Third time for, for, Third Eye Carnival. Fantastic, Friday night. Had a great great showing. Had some bands playing. 

Saturday, podcast to start off the day in the early afternoon, and then band one after another after another all night long. Had a food truck there. We had some great art. It's a fantastic time. I encourage people to come out. We also got a free fireworks show from the neighborhood, on fourth of July because Pueblo loves fireworks, I found out this weekend. I mean, they are all in. The city is in. The people are in. By the time we even got back late at night, they were still going off for hours and hours. So, 

yeah, if you're looking for a good free, fireworks show, you could there's worse places than Pueblo, Colorado, I can tell you. That's a good fireworks show where no one gets any shrapnel because other places on the planet. They got fireworks shows going off all the time, and it's not so independence, celebraty type stuff. Alright. So, Jeff has been having that. Yeah. It's been probably four years at this point. I'm so glad to see that it's also kinda, like, joined with the Third Eye Carnival circuit. Right? And they're bringing new people into Jeff's art, gala and his, you know, his spectacles of conspiracy art at his gallery. And, he's been working on that a long time, so I'm glad you got to enjoy it. And Tee Snyder also got to film it. So in a couple weeks or so, when Tee is done editing and color correcting, we'll get to see some of that. Presently, I think he's interviewing Mark Passio, 

but maybe that's supposed to be on the down low, so don't tell anybody about that. Alright. So, anyway, Scott, how are you doing this evening? I'm doing good. I'm just kinda disappointed in myself for not just putting everything aside and going to Third Eye Carnival. I was there last year, and I can vouch for the fact that that neighborhood fireworks show that they do is nuts. So I dude, the Blowback Gallery is so amazing. If anybody's near or around the Pueblo, Colorado area, just pop in. They do events there all the time. Like, it's super amazing. Although, it really is like a conspiracy art gallery. That's what it is. Jeff is super cool. Yeah. So he's, been a supporter of Tragedy and Hope for a long time. He helped to, create the ultimate history lesson with John Taylor Gatto. He had donated to that endeavor. So, yes, please go see, Blowback Gallery, 

Pueblo, Colorado. And, Scott was just too he was too busy, covering he was covering the big, beautiful bill that he he loves so much. He was over on Christy Lee's show on, who's the pillow guy? Yeah. So it's it's it's a fun it's a funny story. So Christy, she does a show on, like, Patriot TV, Lindell TV. She's, you know, we're Mike Lindell. I've hung out with her in in person and everything down in Austin at these big info wars events, and she's just so nice. And she she told me it's so nice and flattering. She's like she's like, whenever I need someone to cover for me, you're always the first person I ask. So she goes she had she's had two babies in the last two years. And so she's been taking time off, and I've been covering for her. But this is the first time I actually I did three days news coverage on Lindell TV. The show is called DC Dispatch, 

and there was, like, literally correspondence in DC at the Capitol. I'm like I was on, like, total Fox News mode. I was like, alright. Let's go to our correspondent in DC. And I just got to rally against the Democrats, and I just I knew the audience is like super boomer maga. So I kinda got into character and it was fun. I I called Trump out on some things, but we had a lot of fun. And so shout out to Christy Lee. She's the best. But, it was just really, really interesting fun. They do pre morning show, just kinda, you know, producer meetings. So I got to sit in on that. Michael and Dell was there. I was like, what's up? 

So I used your pillow, bro. He's like he's like, I'm I'm in DC. I'm on my way to meet Trump at the White House. He was, like, literally on his way to go meet Trump at the White House. And so it's like Did you go up to him and say, Mike, why are you so intense? No. I'm just like, well, okay. So in the in the recovery world, in in Oh, okay. The addictions recovery world, we have a term called permafried. Okay? And there there's a thing where you smoke enough crack, you get permafried. And he's like, I'm like, dude, I kinda wanna smoke crack with Mike Lindell just a little bit just once just to see what that was like. But, no, never gonna happen. But I got a lot of respect for him, a lot of love. So, I mean, you know, this is Now I know you were covering for Christy Lee, and you wanted to do a good job and represent, you know, please everybody. But when you wanna burn those bridges, you know, sometime in the future, I could see you calling on those correspondents in DC, but asking the questions in the voice of Butthead. And that would either get you hired in, like, a raise, or it would get you persona non grata, which, you know, if you're looking for that, that's the easy switch to pull right there. It'll be hilarious 

Yeah. For your catalog And the which we all celebrate. What the hell of this crap, Davis? Yeah. Yeah. That's pretty cool. Pretty cool. That's big, beautiful, bell or something. How would Beavis introduce the concept of Jaguar going woke? I don't like it. Butt butt head. You could do it as butt head. It might be easier. Hey, babe. Did you hear about a Jaguar? They went really gay, and now their cars suck. Oh, wow. Their cars all sucked. Shut up, babe. You just don't know how to drive. He's gonna pick up some chicks. Alright. Colby, go ahead and We're gonna pick up some chicks. Yeah. Let, let Jimmy do it. Wait. Wait. Hold on. Hold on. Wait. What do you got? Hold on. It's like, 

yeah. We gotta go pick up some chicks. Bebeth, you can't pick up chicks and jaguars anymore. They're for picking up dudes. Oh. Man, I'm just mad at the cold. I'm glad we waited for that. Alright. So, Colby, let's go to Jimmy Dore and probably Kirk, and they're covering, the jaguar incident. Jaguar. So Jaguars, you know, the the the car Jaguar, which used to be Jaguar? Jaguar. Check this check that I used to hit in England when I went there, she came in a jaguar. A jaguar. That's what she called it to pick me up. Yeah. And I that's Jaguar. When I was in Africa, I saw an Elephante. 

Oh. So James Elephante? That's a conspiracy. So their their their sales collapsed ninety seven percent. I I wonder why. Maybe it had something to do with their commercial. Do you remember this commercial they came out with? Here's their commercial. This is their commercial for their sports cars. It's it's a bunch of freaks. Which one is the car? 

Copy nothing, Jaguar. I like the the the guy with the fro, and it looked like, it's like the wedge cut on his fro, and he looked like he stood up at a ride at Six Flags, and it almost took his head off. I don't know if you said but so here here's the story. So this is from the Economic Times news. Only forty nine percent. Only four I'm sorry. Only forty nine Jaguar vehicles were registered in Europe in April of twenty twenty five. That's a ninety seven point five percent drop compared to one thousand nine hundred and sixty one units in the same month last year. 

Nice. Year to year to date, sales between January and April fell seventy five point one percent with just two thousand six hundred and sixty five cars sold across the continent. Wait. So Jag Jaguar is not a perfume. It's a car you're telling me. It's a car. See that. Yeah. I know you Oh. Isn't that something? So and then down here, it says the shift to an all electric ultra luxury brand coupled with a controversial marketing campaign 

and the absence of new electronic vehicle models has alienated long time buyers. The company's future hinges on the successful launch of its upcoming electric vehicles. And but listen. Watch how they spin this. This this is to me, this is the fun part. Yeah. That they're the Bud Light of cars. So, yes, they're like so that so that so that was their what was that woman's name? The Bud Light woman? I don't know. That butter dick they put on the can, and it made some more of the time. That was their Dylan Mulvaney movement. 

And now and now their sales are down ninety seven percent. Now it's up to Shane Gillis to turn this around? Now it's up to Shane Gillis. So so watch this. This is from auto spies. Everything going as planned. This Oh, good. This is the news spin. Oh, drop your sales? Every everything going as planned, Kurt, as Jaguar sales plummet ninety seven. This is true. It's not just your imagination. If you've stopped by a Jaguar dealership recently, you probably noticed that a lot. The lot looking 

unusually bare. In fact, most local dealers have less than ten color cars available for and some don't have any at all. The slowdown has contributed to the dramatic ninety seven point five percent drop in Jaguar sales across Europe. Oh, that's why there's no car in the commercial because they don't have one at the store. They don't have it. So listen. At first glance, Kurt, that figure seems catastrophic. At first glance, yeah, it does. And second. And second glance too. Right? And it's already fueled headlines pointing to a collapse linked to Jaguar's high stakes rebrand 

of its pivot toward electrical vehicles. But those but those interpretations, Kurt, miss crucial piece of context. Shane Gillis is going to be promoting them. Jaguar intentionally we wanted to do this. We wanted to have our our sales crash by almost a hundred percent. Jaguar intentionally stopped producing cars at the end of twenty twenty four, a move that stretched into early twenty twenty five in some regions as part of a planned transition 

to becoming an EV only brand. If you were actually planning that, wouldn't you plan to do that kind of seamlessly so your sales wouldn't crash by ninety seven percent? Wouldn't you have cars wouldn't you do it so you had cars on the lot at all times? That seems I get my money from other sources and don't need you, the consumer, anymore. Not if that's the case. So this is Jack movies and TV and everything. You the consumer don't matter because the feudalist lords are sucking all the last of the wealth. They can do crazy shit like this now. So, this is their crack team of advertising specialist, Kurt. And I call them crack because they must be on crack 

to be spinning this as a positive thing. So this is this is from Autoblog. Before things get better, they must get worse. Yes. Especially Now I I'm with you now. That that what that's too much. Yeah. I really Yeah. Of course, that's true. Things must get worse before they get better, especially when you deliberately make them worse for no good reason. So here it is. This is this is the general state of mind at Jaguar as it embarks on a path to release a fully electric lineup of vehicles 

while also pushing deeper into the ultra luxury segment. Wouldn't you continue making regular gas powered cars until you had electric cars to come and take their place? That's what a normal sane person would do. Jaguar has elected not to gently transition into an all EV lineup. Instead, the vast majority of Jag's gas fed models have been discontinued, including the XF sedan, which ceased production midway through twenty twenty four. At around the same time, the XC sedan 

and f type sports cars were discontinued. Without cars to sell, it figures that sales would fall off a cliff. Why would you not want cars to sell? Jimmy, can I I don't know? I I honestly don't understand this, but it has something to do with it. I know it does because I'm like, who owns Jaguar that's pretty cool with this? Jaguar is currently owned by Tata Motors, an Indian multinational automotive manufacturing company. Tata Motors acquired Jaguar in two thousand eight from Ford Motor Company. 

So so an Indian multinational car company did this. That's very strange, and I don't really understand what if anybody out there understands, but I bet you there's something to do with some weird globalist thing. And Adrian Mardell, Jaguar CEO, previously stated that the brand's range of current models resulted in close to zero profitability. This is this explains why calling nearly the whole lineup wasn't as drastic as it seems. 

By accepting this dramatic decline in sales, Jaguar can now fully focus on its next chapter, and what a chapter it looks to be. Oh, I get it. So this entire ad campaign was just an insurance fire to make sure everything else was a loss leader. What an elaborate way to chapter eleven weigh you're out of this. I mean That's exactly what it is. That's great. That's exactly what it is. That's what Tata Motors, the Indian multinational, is doing. It it, private equity. 

Look at Boeing's doors falling off of their planes. Look at all the things. Private equity absorbs all the wealth, and then they burn the restaurant down. Jaguar was almost universally panned when it revealed its new brand identity last late last year. You mean with that commercial I showed you? It's on purpose. They're troll it's a troll. It's a clown show. That's what that is. Everything from the font to the logo, colors, and themes were derided, and all bore little resemblance to the brand's consistent look and feel up to that point. The initial rebrand had virtually no focus on cars. Yeah. There wasn't a car in that commercial. 

Further aid perfume. Further alienating Jag loyalists and and phrases like copy nothing and create exuberant failed to strike a chord with gearheads in any meaningful way. You think a dare in traffic has better instincts than that advertising outfit at Jaguar. Jaguar isn't oblivious to the backlash. I think they are. According to I think they intended it from the start. That's what I mean. Yeah. According the producers? 

Yeah. The member of the producers? I think it's my Hitler. Yeah. I think that's what springtime for that's their springtime for Hitler. This is their according to a report by the Telegraph last month, Kurt, the British automaker is already hunt they call it the British automaker. It's owned by India. Yeah. The guy's name, I looked up. It's unpronounceable, so I'm not gonna try because I don't wanna be racist. The British automaker is already hunting for a new advertising agency to replace oh, no kidding. So they're so they're getting a new advertising agency. So okay. 

The latter is responsible for last year's campaign, but Jaguar seems to want to replace the agency sooner rather than later despite a contract being in place until mid twenty twenty. Yeah. You think they wanna get rid of them? Yeah. So This was followed by the name. This was followed by the reveal of the type o o concept car. A first look at what we can expect from Jaguar's electric vehicle future with flush surfaces and dramatic touches like a glassless rear tailgate. It looks nothing like any other Jaguar 

we've seen. I I hate to tell you Clay. Jag Jaguar, I hate to tell you, you're gonna have to spend an entire year giving cars away for free to win anybody back now. Who's the car? The the girl that's a guy is the car? I didn't understand it. I don't Jaguar's first production car under the rebrand will be an electric four door GT set to be revealed in late twenty twenty five before reaching showrooms 

not till twenty twenty six. Targeting the likes of Bentley and Rolls Royce with an imposing design and deluxe interior, it remains to be seen how how far upmarket the Jaguar brand can go, and this will be the model to answer that question. So here and here's one more twist. So Jaguar, while Jaguar alone undergoes an unexpected lull, so they're trying we've been to do this 

Jaguar Land Rover. So they I guess they own Land Rover. I didn't know this. Oh, that's what happens when they you have that. So this wow. So Land Rover posted two point five billion, that's up three point three nine billion dollar in profits for f y twenty five. That's a record. So these promising numbers have, of course, been spearheaded by Land Rover, a brand that has a reliability consistent lineup reliably consistent lineup at present. The stability of the Land Rover brand allows 

Jaguar to take its time with the Jaguar relaunch even if that means sell selling shockingly few vehicles in the interim. Yeah. I said they don't have to worry about the consumer of Jaguar of that brand because they're getting money from something. And so what so this is the plot, and then get out of whatever they have to I don't know. Because the brand's failing. That's that's what clown world is. That's the oligarchs do it doing a producer's style, con job, I I think. And Autoblog says the brand has gone too far in a new direction to turn back now and is betting on an exclusively 

electric vehicle future at a time when many automakers have reined in their plans to move to a fully electric lineup. The arrival of Jag's grand production electric vehicle in twenty Alright. So we got to the part where it doesn't matter if Jaguar makes money because it's covered by, a corporate umbrella of profitability from other brands that are renowned and make a lot of money. So in that situation, even though Jaguar says Tata to making some money this year and selling some cars, I think they're probably gonna stick with that type of rebrand. They're gonna keep things 

EV. They're gonna keep things woke. And even though, it ebbs and flows in the market and it might be down right now, I think they still wanna keep keep those ideas coming back, and they want people to be on the green energy that has to be provided through an official provider, and you're gonna need a license to do lots of stuff in that world. But, let's see what, Scott and Charlie think about it because they definitely have different thoughts than me on some things. Me of of Comcast and what they're doing with SpinCo. What are they doing with SpinCo? What is that? The vehicle they they created a vehicle to put MSNBC 

in that so that it doesn't tarnish their stock price because nobody wants to buy it. It has no value any longer. And their show you know, viewership's fallen off since Trump got elected. You know, Rachel Maddow is the only asset they have, and she works one day a week. And so they they can't find anybody that wants it. And so from an accounting standpoint, they created a a separate vehicle, and they put it in there. And they're just sort of holding it off the side of the boat, so to speak. And 

is it one of those things like, not derivatives, but swaps where you they can't look at it until a future date to see what was transacted or what, you know, what they're doing? There's a couple other channels that they added in this company with it, so it's not there by itself. I think it's some underperforming assets that they're hoping somebody else will come in and buy. You know, they can just write this off as a tax loss. The the idea that the mainstream media is now a tax loss is beautiful. But, of course, we we can't let our guard down because as David Ike talks about, the mainstream alternative media has now stepped into its place. So it's just that it's changed locations, but nothing really 

structural has has has been altered. We still have an operation Mockingbird two point o or however you wanna define it happening right now inside this mainstream alternative media. And, of course, it's bleeding out into podcast as well. So, this is the this we say goodbye to the establishment media, you know, so long. You have CNN plus three weeks and two hundred and fifty million dollars. Light it on fire in your parking lot, baby. 

But it's those days are gone, and the big conglomerates know that they don't even have any value anymore. So we're we're now transitioning into a new form of controlled media, and I think it behooves all of us to talk about it as we do and and to make people aware that it's not just because you're finding your news online doesn't mean that it's now magically all authentic. You also have to read the labels when you're listening to things that you find on YouTube, especially. 

And and especially the the shows that have these sort of brand names or they've come out of nowhere and have very, black and white and white and white and Some of them even refer to themselves as like, I know it's weird that some people have done this work for twenty years, and then Johnny on the spot comes and gets all sorts of attention. It's interesting. We may we'll ask a reportage guy about that. Reportage. That's how we say it. Yeah. I, I had a similar situation like that. Like, when Bandot Video first came out, I was, 

I was already in contact with Rob Du through the no agenda community, and I was, like, you know, buddies with him. We were talking offline and came on our show, and, like, I think he was, like, rooting for us. We were, like, these tiny little shows. And I actually emailed him, and I was like, hey, man. What are the odds of me, like, applying for a job in InfoWars? And he was like, well, we're not hiring right now, but I'll give you a channel on Bandit Video. And I was like, what? And that was, like, right when Bandit Video came out, like, close to when it first came out. I was, like, one of the the the Truthzilla podcast, the one I used to do is, like, one of the first shows on freaking Bandit Video. It was, like, ahead of Burmas, ahead of you guys, ahead of Charlie, ahead of Well, you got us on Bandit Video. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. But I'm just saying, like, I felt like complete impostor syndrome. So it was like, I was like, damn, I cut in front of everybody. Like, people are gonna think I'm some sort of shield, dude. It was crazy. 

But, but anyway and then but back to the Jaguar thing, I was just looking at how, the in twenty twenty three, the UK gave them five hundred million bucks to build this gigafactory they're talking about, a battery Oh, yeah. Electric vehicle battery plant, basically. So they're now in that path of, like, okay. Now we have to because we're getting all these subsidies from the government. So they're on that path, and they they can't take the tank can't take the foot off the gas. And then, of course, they're just gonna justify and say, hey. We need more money. We need more money. Maybe that was their business strategy. It's like, hey. Just give us just bail us out. Just bail us out. Well, I think it was probably, like, if it wasn't a Bilderberg meeting, it was a World Economic Forum meeting. And all those big corporations, like, twelve years ago got read into the playbook. 

And they said, you guys are gonna take, you know, a turn away from rugged Americanism, and we're gonna introduce a bunch of nonsense woke, like, communism. And we're gonna change our attitudes, values, behaviors, and beliefs to the audience, and you're they're gonna get billions of dollars in tax credits and all sorts of other nonsense that they get from the government through theft. And they will slowly change the NPC world. And those of us who could see that Jaguar, the the ad, like, a year ago and just laugh at it, be like, that's so stupid. Like, if I owned a Jaguar back then, I would have sold it. I would have sold it. That company does no longer represents me, or I don't have any interest in its products. Either way 

but I think that, yeah, I mean, if they do that on purpose, they ruin a brand so that they can rebrand it and call it Jaguar. I mean, it has stood for, like, visceral sports cars back in the day that don't drive in the rain. Yeah. They're not doing Dakar rallies. But, yeah. So, anyway, I I just thought it was interesting that they went woke ninety seven percent down in sales, and then they act like they're they did it on purpose, and they're good with it because they got deep pockets elsewhere. 

But that's just stealing from everyone who, funds those other brands. It waters down those brands too. Pivoting to a an all electric strategy moving forward from a just a a corporate structure standpoint, that seems insane to me because now you are fully dependent on rare earth minerals for your, EV batteries, your neodymium from China, and you have to make sure that those trade routes remain wide open. And if you're the British empire, 

and you're trying to do business with China, that's saying saying there's a a little bit of history there would be an understatement. Well, and the fact that Tata from India is the middle man now Maybe because maybe that's a strategic move to put them in a BRICS orbit where now those, shipping lanes are are opened for, an EV pivot. Maybe that's how they had to do it. I don't know. Now I know Tata, but it could also be a common company name in India, 

or maybe it's the same thing. Maybe Scott can look it up. Once upon a time, I was in a meeting in AIG's boardroom, and their chief information officer was in there. And we were talking about some contractors or whatever, and they said, we have this group, Tata, out of India, and they supply all our IT, everything, con you know, it's like some huge multibillion dollar contract. So that could be a place where they're printing money out of nothing and doing software and mingling with those Fortune one hundred companies that 

they could have enough money to buy some luxury brands and do that sort of stuff. So I'm interested if, like, Tata Consulting, which was, you know, AIG to outsource to another country back in the day, that was like a nobody was doing that back then, but now everyone does it. So I'm sure whatever company those companies were given money to grew into some behemoth, and, servicing Western companies led possibly to acquiring some Western brands. But we'll have to research that. Where's the goats? Okay. 

Top top top a I g right there. Trusted not fantastic com. I don't know what the what why Tata a I g insurance? Yeah. Oh, and then I did find this. It's save the Tata's, which is breast cancer awareness, of course. So it's slang term for breasts. Right? Is it encouraging people to get a test that might cause cancer? I don't know. Or exacerbate existing nonaggressive types of cancer? I'm not sure. Exactly. Exactly. That was one of the jokes in my stand up routine with Sam Tripoli and Leonardo Johnny here. When when I was, 

MCing, I was like you know, I was walking out of the store, and there was this lady. She came up to me with a pink shirt on and a clipboard. She's like she's like, would you like to donate some money for breast cancer or for cancer research? And I'm like, well, what are you gonna do with the money? They're like, well, we're trying to find a cure. I'm like, oh, well, I have, like, three people in my phone here that have cures for cancer. I can just give you their number if you want. Like like, do you ever agree if you wrote a book in the sixties called The World Without Cancer? Thomas Seyfried at Boston College has a cure for cancer, but he can't get his protocol through clinical or clinical clinical trials. I'll just give you their number. And the lady's like, I don't know about that. We kinda just want the money if that's alright. You know what I mean? It's like 

crazy. Well, on the note of Thomas Seyfried let me see if I can find Siggy Warburg. Sigmund? Is it Sigmund? Which one is it? Damn it. There's so many Warburgs. Prime cause. Here it is. Otto Warburg. Boom. Does that translate? I've got to move a screen. Let's go over here. Doing it live. Doing it live. Alright. So prime cause and prevention of cancer by doctor Otto Warburg. He won a Nobel Prize for it. And, 

five reasons cancer and sugar are best friends. So the idea is that you have to take the sugar level in the body down in order to fight the cancer, and then doctor Sifried, improved upon it. Oh, wait. Improved upon it. There we go. More recently. And, that's all I have right there in the the model. But I know people that are very familiar with those protocols, and, that's the type of thing that should be getting press instead of pink ribbon type stuff. So good for you for bringing that up. Totally, dude. Totally. People in the chat are saying they liked my Hitler trans joke. I'll have to save that one for next time. 

He might have been. Nope. That was the joke. The joke was, like, literally, they saw they find a skull fragment, and it turns out it's a female. Yeah. Right. Right. Well, that means that means Hitler was trans, which means he definitely killed himself. Yeah. But wasn't it the Russians who find the skull fragment or something? Like, I don't always trust the people who are maybe adding to stories over there. The Bolsheviks might exaggerate from time to time through history if you look into their their work. But that's not what we're here to learn about. We're here to learn about McCarthy 

isms. So, senator McCarthy, Joseph McCarthy, back in the nineteen fifties, he was tracking down a whole bunch of they, them, those collectivist, communist who have infiltrated our government, various echelons of political society, and then they said it was a witch hunt. Because they them those are very good at, like, reframing the narrative. They're they're really good at the storytelling part. You know? And they made McCarthy out to look like a fool for a long time. Now we have talked on this show many, many, many, many, many times about the Venona 

transcripts. Venona was an operation. Let me take you to the history blueprint. Let's get learnified about Venona, v e n o n a, v e n o n a. There's the Venona project. So this is spy detection. It starts in nineteen forty three and continues up to nineteen hundred and eighty. Ronald Reagan was in the White House when they stopped with this Venona project. Now the problem was they had collected a lot of information, but they couldn't process it till later. So in the nineteen nineties, 

they start to realize all that stuff that they're talking about, the communist infiltration, that was really going on. And now when you get into it, you got some really interesting people here because what I found was, yes, McCarthy was he's probably just a dick, but he was right on a lot of these points. Over here, you have Alger Hiss, Anthony Blunt, you have Carmel Ophi. So this is like World War one time that they start to come in. Cedric Balfourage, he's also involved with so there's a lot of a lot of these guys are either Rhodes Scholars or British 

allegiance type people. Okay? In our government, we have Dean Acheson and Donald Hiss, who's the brother of Alger Hiss. Donald MacLean was a spy. Donald Niven Wheeler, a Rhodes Scholar spy. Duncan Lee, another communist Rhodes Scholar spy in our midst. Right? So there's Harry Dexter White. There's the Institute of Pacific Relations. There's a whole there's a Golos network. There's a whole bunch to this, and this all kind of becomes public starting in the nineteen nineties because they've transcribed 

the Venona recordings. So what you're getting is a taste of the British double cross system, and part of that double cross system is instead of them spying directly on us, they put their guys as communists in our midst, and then they spy on us. So if we catch them, then we we think they're communists from Russia, but, really, they're being run by m I six, our not so good time friend that was working in coordination with the Rockefeller family and was part of the British creation and infiltration of the US intelligence community. So there's a lot to it. So with all that being said, now let's go over to Natalie at redacted. 

You know, I thought maybe Clayton would cover this story, but he left it for Natalie, and it's a juicy one. So we'll get just a taste of it, and then our special guest will be here, tonight. And, you might have heard of him because he's in the theme show for this podcast he's mentioned in there along with G. Everett Griffin and a whole bunch of other all stars of Liberty. Let's go now to redacted with Natalie Morris. Everything you were taught about McCarthyism is wrong, and so is the phrase naming names in front of a senate. 

What you think it means is outing people out of hate and hysteria, but here's an inconvenient truth. Joseph McCarthy was right. And what's more, when you're using the term McCarthyism or naming names, you are using government created propaganda. It's a lie, and this propaganda was created by the Democrats and the State Department. So here I am to clear his name and tell you the absolute truth about that word and the story of McCarthy. 

If you ask any high school student what it means, likely they'll say, well, it's baseless witch hunts that ruined innocent lives. This is a staple of American high school curriculum right up there with the red scare, the crucible. It's always framed as this cautionary tale about paranoia, not proof. Well, textbooks paint McCarthy as this reckless bully who whipped up blacklists in Hollywood and torched careers and did it all out of anti Semitic malice. But I'm going to myth bust that, so hold on to your hats. Here are some things that we are not told about McCarthy. Number one is that he was right, and I'm gonna tell you how we know this. 

He actually did not want to name names. He was smeared by the Democrats and the state department in collusion. He actually had factual reports and intelligence on which to make his accusations, and he was the victim of multiple character smears, all of which I'm gonna tell you the truth about. So let's start with the first one. Get ready. Buckle up. First of all, he was right. History has shown that McCarthy was absolutely correct, and there were, in fact, communists infiltrating the US government, specifically the state department 

at the policy level at the highest levels. Well, how do we know this? Well, the FBI knew it all along, but the public knows because when the Soviet Union fell in the nineties, they gave us proof. This proof is called the Venona decrypts or the Venona files. It is a trove of intercepted Soviet communist communications that the US intelligence had been decoding for years, in fact, for decades. The Venona files revealed that hundreds of Americans were secretly working 

with or for the Soviet intelligence, many of them inside the US government, including the state department, the treasury, and even the White House. Here are some names that were confirmed in the Venona files. Alger Hiss, a top state department official who helped create the United Nations, Harry Dexter White, assistant secretary of the US Treasury under FDR, Lachlan Lurie, an adviser to president Roosevelt, Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, who passed atomic secrets 

to Moscow, one of the more famous cases. Now the only one here directly named by McCarthy on this list was Harry Dexter White. He was named in the famous nineteen fifties Wheeling speech. He died of a heart attack just a few days after denying under oath that he was a Soviet agent, but that was a lie. He is in fact confirmed in the Venona files as a confirmed Soviet source. The others here, Alger Hiss, was exposed by Whitaker Chambers, not McCarthy. Lachlan Lurie was part of a broader network of espionage that McCarthy did reference, but he was not specifically focused on him. 

The Rosenbergs were prosecuted by the justice department, not McCarthy, so I should be clear. But all of these validate McCarthy's assertion that there were Soviet spies in the US government. Now I should point out the FBI knew this all along. The FBI had the Venona transcripts as well as treasure troves of documents, files and files and files. And in fact, we know that they knew this as early as nineteen forty two because they were investigating Oppenheimer, 

the father of the atomic bomb. We know this, that he had been investigated as a secret party member. Now why you might ask, did McCarthy stand on a limb by himself if the FBI knew that what he was saying was correct? Well, partly because the intel that they had was classified. They were still working these files at the time. And partly because they didn't think that McCarthy would need their help. McCarthy wasn't actually doing these investigations 

himself. He was asking for investigations, which were in fact happening. And they there was no way that the FBI at the time could have known that the Democrats were going to attempt to smear McCarthy, which at the time was so unprecedented, and I'm gonna show you this. But it is true that by nineteen fifty, when the McCarthy hearings began, the president and the state department had already been given volumes of information proving that Russian spies were working in the state department, 

and they did nothing about it, which is another broader question. Why did that happen? This brings me to my point about McCarthy not wanting to name names. This is my second point. Now the narrative is that he named names before the senate. But in fact, the truth is that when he was called in for these hearings, he had barely began his presentation when Democratic senator Scott Lucas demanded that he name names. So McCarthy came prepared 

with these accusations as only file numbers, anonymous file numbers, case one, case two, so on. He had said repeatedly that he was not prepared to name names publicly in for in front of the TV cameras, but the Democrats pushed him. Here is when he first began his speech, and, senator Lucas said, I want him to name those communists. The senator is privileged to name them all in the senate. And if those people are not communist, the senator will be protected. He said, all the communists he's gonna name, 

I want to remain here until he names them. So there are many exchanges like this where Democrats push and push and push, and McCarthy repeatedly refuses to name names. He says, I will hand these names over in closed door sessions. That is on the record many times. Here is just one of those times where he says these this is a quote from McCarthy, which you will not find if you look it up on YouTube, but it is in the record. He says the names are available. 

The senators may have them if they care for them. I think, however, it would be improper to make the names public until the appropriate senate committee can meet in executive sessions and get them. I have approximately eighty one cases. I do not claim to have any tremendous investigative agency to get the facts, but if I were to give all the names involved, it might leave the wrong impression. If we should label one man a communist when he is not a communist, I think it would be too bad. 

However, the names are here, I should be glad to abide by the decision of the senate after it hears the cases. But I think the sensible thing to do would be to have an executive session and a have a proper committee go over the whole situation. He didn't want to. We have many exchanges like this where he says over and over, I do not want to do this. And he never claimed to have conducted investigation himself. He was a senator, not a prosecutor. His aim at showing up for these hearings at all was to ask the justice department and the state department to investigate these things. 

But once he named names, most of the accused were brought to testify. They denied everything and were promptly cleared by the democratic controlled committee often without further inquiry. Many were never seriously investigated at all. In fact, some just walked free on nothing more than a denial despite credible questions about their records. So this idea that McCarthy named names, that's a smear. He that was a trap that he walked into. He resisted doing so many times. It was the Democrats 

who demanded that he name names publicly, pressuring him under the guise of transparency, and then turning around and weaponizing that disclosure against them. So they laid the trap. He walked into it. So how many innocent people were dragged into this? We can't really know since so many of them just asserted their innocence and then walked away. The system clearly wasn't interested in the truth. They were interested in discrediting McCarthy. And there is evidence that that is what happened, and I move on to this next myth. We're all feeling it. Costs are still rising. Inflation 

is slowing, but still a thing. Prices are still going up. So you think, well, should I call American financing to refinance from Maryland? He threatened to play a speech that McCarthy had made in West Virginia at the hearings, but it was pure theater. There was never a recording of that speech. It was mysteriously erased. Tidings colluded with the state department. He later admitting admitted under congressional testimony that he didn't even have that speech. He was just threatening it for the cameras. Now, titans colluded with the state department 

to smear McCarthy in these hearings, and there is proof of that. In fact, the magazine Newsweek covered this smear campaign extensively in nineteen fifty. Although the archives are nearly impossible to find online, they exist. Tidings convened meetings with the state department's own lawyers with the aim of, according to Newsweek, the total and eternal destruction of McCarthy. Now let that sink in for a second. The state department was allowed to interfere in an investigation 

of itself helping Democrats engineer a smear campaign against the one man who was calling for accountability publicly. And that's then where we get the term McCarthyism. They came up with it. So how can we use this when it is like the term conspiracy theory was used to discredit those asking questions? Conspiracy theory itself is a conspiracy, so is McCarthyism. 

So let's move on. Where did McCarthy actually get his information if not from the FBI? Well, from the US State Department itself. In August of nineteen forty six, a State Department official named Samuel Clauss wrote a classified one hundred and six page memo flagging over one hundred and twenty US employees as security risks. This internal document directly informed Truman's nineteen forty seven loyalty program and later McCarthy's nineteen fifty speeches. Now here's something odd about that memo, though. It has since disappeared from public record. The author of this fantastic book called Blacklisted 

by History, which is a fantastic read. It almost reads like a spy novel, but it's real. Creation of American propaganda. M Stanton Evans, he went looking for it, and the Klaus memo is missing from public record. He looked in the National Archives. He looked in the Tidings panel archives. He found a notice of where the memo had been, but it was withdrawn in nineteen ninety three. So this important information, this important document that informed the McCarthy hearings is gone. 

That's weird. Right? But McCarthy definitely read it, and that is what prompted him to act, speak publicly about the need for investigation and communist infiltration into the US government. As a senator, that's kind of what you would hope they would do. See weird things, call for government investigation. It is also useful though that Democrats went on to smear his character, and here are just a few things that they use to smear his name which are not true. The first thing, they called him un American. Well, you be the judge of that. I would like you to know about his background. 

He was one of seven children from a hardworking family in Wisconsin, and he had to work several jobs as a teenager. So he did not get to complete high school at age eighteen when normal teenagers do. So at the age of twenty, he enrolled in an accelerated course to finish high school, and he finished in nine months. He went on to get a law degree, and then he ran for office as a local judge, and he won, becoming the youngest judge in Wisconsin at that time, nineteen thirty nine. Then came the draft, which he would have been exempt from because he was a sitting judge, 

but he gave up his position and enlisted voluntarily anyway. He joined the marines in World War two. He flew combat missions in the Pacific and earned the distinguished flying cross. When he came home, he was easily elected as senator, earning himself the title of youngest senator in the country at the age of thirty eight. So, again, if you would like to call him un American, well, you be the judge. Someone who volunteers to go to war when there's a draft, is that un American? Another character's smear is that he created this Hollywood blacklist where actors and producers couldn't get any roles or any work because they were suspected communists. 

The fact is McCarthy had nothing to do with that. It was Hollywood executives that did that themselves. The blacklist began in nineteen forty seven under what's called HUAC, the House Un American Activities Committee, and it was enforced by studio executives themselves years before McCarthy ever had a single senate hearing so that doesn't hold up. And often you might hear him called an antisemite. These assertions came about because most of the communist spies 

were in fact Jewish, but he did not specifically target Jews. And in fact, he didn't even come up with the list himself. The state department did. So the fact that they happen to be Jewish had nothing to do with his intentions. He was looking for Russian communists. And in fact, McCarthy's chief counsel, Roy Cohn, was a Jew who helped root out these communists. There's no record of McCarthy ever specifically going after Jews or making any antisemitic statements, that label stuck because it was useful, 

not fact based. So given these facts, why do you think we still use the term McCarthyism, and who does? Well, I think you might know that McCarthyism is mostly used by the left because many of the individuals that were in fact caught in pro Soviet networks were intellectuals, artists, and bureaucrats aligned with the left. So labeling this scrutiny as McCarthyism helps protect historical allies, discredit whistleblowers, and preserve the moral authority 

of progressive institutions. Also, attacking the source and not the actual evidence presented has become a useful tactic now used in senate hearings by both sides, we should be clear, the right and the left. When they don't wanna hear something that's presented to congressional meetings, they go after the person presenting it. That's not new now, but it was new back then. And in fact Silver standard. Democrats went after him so comp Alright. Great reporting from redacted. Not surprising. But, this whole McCarthyism 

type thing, that was like a it was the early insertion of the deep state into this country. It started after World War one. It went on in between World War one, World War two. By the time you get to World War two, you have a full on infestation, not only of people who want us to return to the British Empire, but also some people who want us to return to the British Empire and are also international collectivists, AKA communists, that are working with intelligence agencies and espionage to share various discoveries and nuclear secrets around the world. You heard Ethel and Julius Rosenberg as part of that list. So there's a lot of history there. We got to the point where Natalie referred to the book. So So if you wanna learn more, there's many books on the topic. 

And, now we're gonna change topic because we have a special guest here, and he also has a book. His name is James Corbett. And if you haven't heard of James Corbett and the Corbett Report, then I don't know where why how'd you even start watching this show? I don't know. James has been producing since two thousand seven. He is one of he's probably my oldest colleague. It was me and James and the other James. His last name is Pilato. You guys might know him from New World next week, and we are OGs from back in the day. I mean, anyone before us was probably, like, just one guy. It was Alex Jones pretty much. So corporate report was very refreshing to me. I didn't really listen to any podcasts when I started podcasting, and his was the first podcast that I listened to. I listened to intently 

over many, many, many, many years at this point. And, I was surprised to hear that he came out with this book called Reportage. Reportage, not reportage. Reportage. It's classy. I thought he published it in two thousand nine. So I was like, oh, James is putting his book back out. It must be like a new second edition, and we're gonna we're gonna talk about that. But I welcome to the Grand Theft World stage. Welcome back, James Corbett. How are you doing this fine morning? Oh, you're muted. Let's see. You know, it would probably help if I unmuted myself, wouldn't it? Hey, Rich. How are you doing? I'm doing wonderfully well, and you're looking dapper there. I like the background. Is that artificial, or is that actual poster in your background? 

Nice, very cool. An actual real honest to God screen. Alright. So we came into this talking about McCarthyism and the deep state. How would you, in your experience, define something like, it's a concept, the deep state. I can't really go to a dictionary, but it has a definite meaning from people who are, familiar with especially American history and world history over the past, sixty, seventy, eighty years. How would you define the deep state? Well, I can tell you how I define it in my book because I do write about the deep state in my essay on, 

escaping the grand chessboard in which I use the three d chess analogy. And you will forgive me because I know that three d chess, come on, we're on, like, fifteen dimensional backgammon by by now, aren't we? But when I first developed that concept it wasn't quite so cliched in the independent media, so I I will stick my flag in that ground and claim it as my own. But yes, the three d chess analogy presents itself to people who are trying to look at what is really happening on the geopolitical chessboard, which is of course called the grand chessboard by Brzezinski and many many others have noted that analogy over the years. 

But what does that game mean? Oh, okay. So you've got the black team and the white team and they're fighting each other, for space on that chessboard. Right? Pretty straightforward. But wait. Hold on a second. So for example, the Cold War, we were told was this Soviet team against the American team and that they were fighting against each other and, over a long period of time, finally, the American team wore down the Russian team and they resigned and okay, great. That was the story of the Cold War. Right? But of course as you know we have we have some other information that might complicate that from sources like Antoni Sutton and others talking about well actually you know it seems that all this technology transfer that was going on, the the lend lease program, all of these ways in which the West was propping up the Soviet menace, 

suggests that there is in fact more than two teams and more than just this two dimensional board that we're looking at, that we all see. There's these pieces that come up from somewhere and down from somewhere else and suddenly, what the hell just happened? I don't know, but something just happened over there and I'm not sure who that was. That is the deep state because, of course, the term deep refers to a dimensionality, as in there is levels and layers of things that are going on. We are going down a level or two to find where these decisions are really coming from. It's not coming from the king on the chessboard because that's the one that's put in front of us that we all see and, oh, if we can just get the king, if we can checkmate, then we win the game. No. Unfortunately, the game is much more complicated than that and there are things happening on other dimensions of this chessboard that you might not even know exist. That's what the deep state is really about. 

You're muted, Rich. Thank you, sir. Do you remember, the first time you heard the concept about deep state? Where'd you hear it? I, I cannot remember when, where, the time that I first heard it, but I know that the person who popularized it, at least in the English language, was Peter Dale Scott, because of course it does it has been referred to. It was I think actually it comes from the Turkish, understanding of a deep state that was 

exposed in incidents like the Sysirlik incident when you suddenly have these military generals that are involved in car crashes with these well known terrorists and mob leaders. Like, what is going on? What is the relation between these people? Oh, there's a deep state, and people who may be in government are collaborating with people who may be in the mafia, who collaborating with terrorists, etcetera, etcetera. So I think the term actually originated in the Turkish context, but Peter Dale Scott popularized it, I think, in the English context, 

and he's written many, many books. I'm sure you've read some of them. I particularly, have looked at Road to nineeleven, for example, in my work on Al Qaeda al Zaida. So, I think Peter Dale Scott has a thing or two to say about the deep state and deep politics, which is what he talks about with regards to events like the JFK assassination, like nineeleven, like these other historical era defining events do not take place because of the two dimensional reasons we are given on the chessboard, they hate us for our freedoms or anything as stupid as that. No. There are definitely deeper layers to what's going on. 

Thinking back in time, when was it that you started collecting essays that contributed toward this book? It's been a long time coming, and I'm very proud not only of the book, dude, but the quality of this book and the classiness of this box. When I opened that package, I was like, it will be untouched, and thank you very much for endorsing it. You know, that that was awesome. So but it started someplace. You read books. You consumed things. You know, you were an English major. Right? 

So when did you start taking like, like, when they assign stuff in school, you're not necessarily attached to it. But now you've learned this skill, and you're out in the real world, and you start seeing things. When did you try to first communicate? When was the first essay? I I would go back actually to the articles that I started writing for the website. Because when I started corporatereport dot com it was originally just going to be a website for my podcast because hey, it's the internet age, we're in the twenty first century, man, let's do this podcasting thing. So I started the podcast originally and it was just gonna be the podcast but it very very very quickly turned into well I should interview people for the podcast so I'll have to have interviews, and oh there's this video thing that people are doing these days I should start a video channel, and oh I should probably write articles. 

And so I actually, there was a period of time, I wanna say in the fall of two thousand seven, anyway very, very early on in my work, where I set myself the challenge of writing an article every single day of the week. Rise rise and shine, time to write an article. And I would do that every single day, and I did it for at least a couple of months, a few months, maybe just to show prove to myself that I could do it. But, it that was reflective of this incredible tumbling down the rabbit hole experience that I'm sure we've all gone through in encountering this information and realizing, 

oh, I know a little bit more about this story that's going through the newswires than they're reporting, so I'll provide some of the context to this. Like, oh, where they're talking about, you know, Canadian troops involvement in Afghanistan, but they're not talking about guarding the poppy fields, so why don't I add that in as a little bit of context? So I did that, and I think that was probably where I started to develop the idea. You know, I I'm clearly I like writing. This is my training. If I have training in anything, it's how to write an essay, so I should probably do this more formally. And you're exactly right to point to two thousand nine as the genesis of this book because it was actually two thousand nine that I first came up with the idea of, okay, I'm gonna write a collection of essays, and I actually put pen to paper for the first time on the first essay, 

in two thousand nine. Alright. Well, that's good. It makes me feel about feel better about my unfinished Rothschild book series series project because it's not nearly as long. I started in, like, twenty sixteen, not two thousand nine, so I got some time. Thank you for giving me breathing room. You've described your work over the years as trying to liberate people's minds from the matrix. What do you hope that readers take away from reading through reportage? I guess there are different things that people can take away depending on their starting point. And I think it is important that this book, of course, it I think it does reflect the types of subjects that I'm interested in and that I've talked about over the years, and I hope it provides some more context and depth to those, subjects than people have encountered in my work before. 

But I think it's also important that this could this book is an emissary of my work to the wider world, the people who have never seen The Corbett Report, the people who do not look at conspiracy stuff on the internet, the people who want to read a book and encounter information that way, hopefully this is a way that those sorts of people can just start dipping their toes in these waters. And I have a story along those lines. So one of the essays in this collection is Why We Must Oppose Bilderberg And again, that essay I probably started in the early 2010s. 

But at any rate, I had always written it from the time of its inception through its many, many, many, many rewrites over the years, including all of the editing process I went through with my editor Susan. It went through many many drafts and finally it got to the point where okay I'm ready and sent the book off to the publisher and the publisher said you know what James I think you've got this this essay wrong because you have framed it as an in group out group type of thing where you know, you know about Bilderberg, 

but there's a lot of people out there who don't know about Bilderberg and this is how we should talk to them. And he said, no, no, no, this book is not for just those people who already know you and your work and know about Bilderberg, this book is for everybody, so you should talk to them as if, hey, this is just someone on the street that you're encountering, that you want to inform about Bilderberg, and he was exactly right about that, so I rewrote the essay from that perspective and I think it's better because of it, And I hope that's reflective of the book as a whole, that all of these, yeah, sometimes quite 

incredible pieces of information that are kind of old hat to OGs like you and me who have been doing this for decades, but guaranteed it is news to your your aunt or your cousin or your coworker or whoever you give this book to. So hopefully, it will be for those people. It will be at least a foot in the door and one that won't scare away people who are looking for real information. As everything I do, this is heavily footnoted and documented, and it's the mainstream sources that, you know, people don't have to go out on the conspiracy limb if they don't want to. There's a lot of good hard hitting information in here, and that's what I'm trying to do. I see it more as an open hand and not a closed fist. 

It's a, how you doing? Nice to meet you, and there's something to be exchanged, not I know the truth and you don't because that goes nowhere. So we need to be able to give people these touchstones and these milestones through history that allow them to understand for themselves that there's something bigger going on or deeper if we take a deep state type of connotation. Over the years, you focused a lot on the institutions like Bilderberg, and other groups out there, like their their culture, 

their roots, their inspirations, like the the precipitation of the teachings that they're promulgating, like the Fabian socialists are built on a whole bunch of other beliefs that come before them. What is what is it that you try to teach the average person who's just, like, learning about this, about those institutions that would make them wanna read a Renee Wormser, foundations, their power, and influence type book? Yeah. Good question. Well, I I think if there if they we can boil down some of these things to the brass tacks. I think I'd like to, at the very least, get people to notice that the types of things that the oligarchs and elitists of our era, who do exist, despite what you may have heard, 

are doing, is not really that different than the elitists and oligarchs of any other era in human history that we all know about and we can all read the history books about if we're so inclined, and we can all understand that, of course, there were all sorts of conspiracies and underhanded dealings and backstabbings, sometimes quite literal, that were going on, say, in the the Roman Republic to turn it into the empire, etcetera, and all of this kind of thing. Of course, people are squabbling over positions of power. That just makes total sense, but we are asked to believe when we get to our era, 

say the last fifty to a hundred years, well, there's I mean, that's that's history stuff, but no, there's no conspiracies anymore and nothing underhanded happens. I would just like to contextualize this information in these institutions so that people un that what we are learning is fundamentally no different than any other era of human history. And although the trappings of the ideologies that are used as essentially a fig leaf to justify these people's rule over vast swathes of the population 

are themselves really just that, just fig leaves, that's just the latest pretense dolled up in the in the most, comfortable language for our modern sensibilities, but it's the same ultimate drive underneath that would be dictators of all stripes have always had, which is control over as much of the world's resources as possible in the hands of as few people as possible. It's the same driving thing. So if people get nothing else out of it other than that, I think mission accomplished because again, it's the deep the the the sort of the othering of 

our current time, as in we're in some special pocket of history that we can't possibly apply any of the standards that we've used for any other historical era. No. I want to break that down and show people. No, it's actually much simpler than you would you would believe if you, listen to institutions, because ultimately we are here as a result of this very long succession of events that has been used to manipulate and steer us in a certain direction, 

us individually, society generally. And until we get our hands ahead around that history, we we won't really understand how we ended up here. So I'm trying to provide that context for people. Yeah. I think it's good to be able to convey the information that helps people reach a red pill moment and then help them see that by learning this and the human capacity for learning, we can be white pill and optimistic. We can we can, you know, we were really vulnerable when we didn't have a clue. And once we reach that that, achievement of understanding, then people can start to have agency, and they have choice back, and they get their freedom back. 

You wrote an article in there, an essay, up down politics. What is the purpose of challenging conventional thinking? And is that something that you might have done to help red pill people just a little bit maybe? I don't know. Let's see. I would certainly hope it would at least get people thinking more deeply about the political infrastructure that has been essentially dangled in front of us, because it is my contention that the left right game of voting for this or that particular political puppet is the child driving we steering wheel that, you give to the child to make them think they're driving the car and oh, look at that. Isn't that so cute? I think that is the political equivalent of that. Of course, because the real decisions, if there is a deep state, the real decisions are not taking place at the surface 

level that we all see. So the question becomes then what is beyond that surface level? And if we're starting to think again in terms of dimensionality, well if we're going to add a second dimension to politics because we are asked to believe it is a one dimensional spectrum. There is left, there is right, there is a center. But strangely enough you vote for this left, candidate, you vote for this right candidate, you vote for the center candidate, you the war party always wins. The, the big big banks, big business always wins. The the little guy always loses. Why is that? Oh, it's because there is an entire other dimension to politics that is completely occluded from our attention, the up down dimension. And until we start to understand that that exists, 

how can we possibly navigate ourselves in the real political universe that exists, not this one dimensional spectrum, but in the real political universe. And once you see it, it's actually I for me personally, it makes so much more sense of the world. It provides a more accurate map of the space that we are navigating than what has been provided to me my whole life. No, you you must vote Liberal or Conservative from my Canadian perspective, right? No, no. Well what what if voting is actually just the slave suggestion box and what if the actual, 

direction of politics is going in a completely different dimension than what we've been told? That is at the very least what I want to put in front of people because I think once they see that, once they actually start to think in terms that are different than what they hear on the evening news, they will start to be able to make better sense of reality. And I would say that's not only the test of my work, but any work for anything that you're consuming: podcast, book, whatever it is. Does it actually explain the world to you in a way that a) makes sense and b) helps you more accurately predict what is going to happen in the world? And that actually 

relates back to one of I remember one of my early penny drop moments when I was first tumbling down the rabbit hole and you raised the specter of AJ before. Of course, yeah, he was the eight hundred pound gorilla in the room back at that time and everyone was listening to him who was involved in this independent media space. And I remember listening to him around the time of the two thousand six US midterm elections when the Democrats swept into the House and the Senate and they were gonna completely upend everything. They were gonna impeach Bush and totally stop the war machine and all of this. Right? That's why everybody voted for them. Right? And I I I remember AJ at that time was saying, it's all a show. They're not gonna change anything. 

This is all theatrics, don't and I remember thinking, oh this is a paradigm test. So in my old paradigm, you know, yeah okay they voted the dems in so everything's gonna change, but this new paradigm is, well nothing's really seriously gonna change, let's let's use this as a test moment. And lo and behold, they could the Dems sweep into power and the first thing Pelosi says is, well, of course impeachment is off the table. We're not gonna do anything like that. And we're not we're not really gonna stop the war machine. Oh, okay. I get it. So my entire You mean Trump's Trump's not really gonna arrest Hillary Clinton? 

I'm waiting with bated breath. In fact, maybe she already is down there in the bunker with Tom Hanks or something secretly arrested. Right? Isn't that what they say? Yeah, no, exactly right. Like we have to be able at some point to actually test a worldview. Is it going to go this way or is it going to go that way? And if it goes that way when we weren't expecting it, that means there's something wrong with our worldview. There is something that we're not quite getting right. So these little tests come along quite often, and I invite people to use them as ways of seeing if they are orienting themselves correctly in the real world. 

Well, you've been a brilliant demonstrator of open source intelligence over the years. Right? Can you explain to the honest, like like, what's your method or your practice like when you start with something you've never heard of? And when you start with something you think you've heard of and know about, do you research them differently, or does it start from scratch and, like, wipe every all the beliefs away and start from scratch? What's your process? Yeah. It's a it's a excellent question because it goes to the heart of something that I've talked about a number of times over the years, which is that I don't think that there is such a thing as, quote, unquote, objective journalism, 

which has always been held up well not always, in fact is I think it was really a twentieth century construction. Once we got into the twentieth century media conglomerate era in which a handful of corporations famously controlled pretty much everything that everyone was hearing and seeing and reading on a daily basis. You have a handful of editorial gatekeepers that could basically control reality and of course those gatekeepers and the journalists who served them were going to say well we're we're floating on this objective cloud and we, 

you know, this is the way the world is and we're just reporting the facts, you decide, all of that kind of rhetoric, which was always a construction. If you go back to basically any other time in history, like, say, I don't know, how about revolutionary times back in, the American context, you're gonna have very, very, very strongly subjective reporting and, from very, very personal viewpoints where you know, oh, this guy is a Federalist, this guy is an Anti Federalist, whatever the case may be. You know where they're coming from and you know what they like and what they don't like. And I actually prefer that. Lay your biases on the table and then you can, as as a third party, you can come in and see, oh, okay. This guy is coming from this perspective, and you can put in your appropriate filters for that information. 

But the worst part is when people pretend they're objective. So I'd like to think I'm totally a per objective, rational person sitting on the clouds just evaluating information, but of course, I am a stew of my own inclinations, biases if you will, and, my own I'm a product of my experiences and what I what I know, what I think I know about the world, they all go into the calculator. And so when I come across a new piece of information, it's decreasingly likely at this point, given that I have a fairly strong sense of my own paradigm, it is decreasingly likely that a single fact is going to topple that entire paradigm. 

I'll probably try to find ways, okay, what does that mean, does that test this assumption or can I change this assumption here? And I will see if it incorporates into my worldview. But having said that, when it comes to the data itself, I hope that at the very least we can triangulate data from a number of different sources, and from that at the very least come up with a sort of bedrock layer of reality. Okay. So we can at least prove that this fact is a fact, and from that the interpretation of that is going to depend on the context, etcetera etcetera, which is why it's always been important for me 

to be open source in my work. As in, here are all the sources that I used, here are that you can go and read these things for yourself, watch these videos, and you will undoubtedly put those things together in a different way simply because you are a different human being coming from a different perspective with different knowledge and experience, and that's a good thing. I think that is a good thing, because I wouldn't I'm certainly not here just taking anyone's word for anything at face value. I am taking all of this data that I can triangulate and and find, into the calculator as it were and see how that computes or doesn't compute with my current worldview. 

The really scary thing, of course, is that we are at the cusp of losing that bedrock layer of reality that we can say, Okay, at least this is a fact. Because, as I wrote about recently in an editorial for my my newsletter, we are at really truly, I'm sure we've been there for a couple of decades with technology that exists that may not be retail available, but now we're at the point where the VO3 whatever AI generated nonsense is at the point where it will fool a lot of people a lot of the time and we're probably on the cusp of basically being able to fool anybody on, with enough effort. So that to me is this truly scary thing because if we do not have that bedrock layer of, Okay, this is reality and these are facts, 

then we're in a big mess of trouble. Well, people have to deal with the deep fakes and a lot of fake news. Do you have any tips on how to spot such things in the environment? Yes. I mean, I I certainly could. And in fact, in that editorial, I do talk about some of them. For example, I've been seeing these videos that people are passing around of the new president, prime minister of Burkina Faso, Ibrahim Traore, and he's making these dramatic speeches to the IMF etcetera, and I show one of them that got passed on to me as, wow, I've never heard such a stirring speech from an African leader. So I I started watching it and immediately, 

my alarm started to go off because of such things as, for example, the mic that was in front of his face started half disappearing from when he turned his head. It would sort of half disappear, and I thought, well, okay. So there's some level of visual trickery going on. And the way that this person was speaking, you could hear the clipped audio that there was reverb in the voice, but you could hear the clip at the end of certain sentences which clear again showed okay there's some processing going on with this audio. And then the kicker was when I started to notice oh the background behind this person is a background of audience like people who are listening to the speech that would occasionally 

dissolve into this white light and then come back to an actual audience, and couple that with the fact that in a thirty minute speech this person makes the same left to right to left to right to left to right movement over and over for thirty minutes making the same blinks at the same point, But his mouth is moving in a way that reflects the audio that I'm hearing, so it's probably one of those, lip sync lip sync AI, generated things that are going on. But there was a lot there was there were certainly enough tells in that that I could see, oh, okay. You could you can distinguish this as some sort 

of video audio trickery. I couldn't tell you exactly who generated it or for what particular purpose, but I know this isn't real. Having said that, there are others that are much more convincing. For example, I'm sure you saw that Javier Millais speech to the WEF back in January twenty twenty four, where he delivered the speech in Spanish, but you can watch him deliver that speech in English, lip synced, and it's his voice and with his accent delivering that speech in English. I mean, 

it's it's it would be very convincing if I didn't know, oh, he actually made that speech in Spanish. Now when you're talking about the reason for this book earlier, I I recalled that this problem's been going on for a long time because nineteen eleven, Woodrow Wilson wrote in the new freedom, there exists in this country an an influence that when you speak in condemnation of it, you dare not speak above your breath. And he goes on for eight pages. So, like, when you come into research world and people are like, that's a specious or fake quote, when, yeah, you can't paraphrase eight pages into a quote. Right? So, like, the thing exists. That evidence, that artifact exists. It was published. It's been here for a hundred years. For a long long time, people were able to confuse people to not be able to go find the actual source materials. And you and I both heard, 

AJ say, I've we've got the documents, everybody. We got But he never posts them. He didn't have enough staff to post them. So James and I were like, what if we put out work and everything is just reference? Because the purpose is to take the audience, that's you guys at home, and get you to read the same thing we just read. And you might even read more pages than we read, and you might come up with a different opinion and have a different reaction, and you can have your own YouTube channel. And we were just like, we don't have a license to do this. You guys can all learn how to do this, and we take it one step at a time by finding reality. And when they show us unreality, we push back. That's it. You know you know, Rich, but that's that's an excellent example because, 

that was one of the things. It's always been a bit of a pet peeve of mine of people who either falsely attribute quotes or don't really you know they sort of paraphrase quotes or things like that, and it was certainly something that when I did Century of Enslavement back in twenty fourteen that was something that I really truly wanted to make sure that I had button type. All of those quotes that I was quoting of various figures, no, I'm going back to the original source and if I cannot find the actual source of that quote I'm not going to include it, and of course I saw you know the Wilson, 

quotes and things like that, which in that case as you say it's a it's a amalgamation of a few different sources from things he'd said at different points in different books and what works and what have you and, and the the real question is you know who constructs a fake quote like that, Right? I mean, that is constructed by somebody with an intent to manipulate in one way or another, and who is doing putting that much effort into manipulating a fake quote together, which then can be debunked by the debunkers, right? Because now we have an entire fact checking industry 

that thrives on this very thing. Oh, look look at that Facebook post about this very real thing, like I don't know the Gates Foundation funding these, remote birth control, you know, implants, but but they they talk about, you know, this other aspect to it of, you know, genetic alteration that isn't part of that thing. So we can debunk the entire thing and we can debunk the good with the bad and all of the information altogether. And it really makes you think, who is putting out that doctored fake Very clever. Amalgamated 

quotes and information that is easily debunkable like that? I think it's cunning linguists. Uh-huh. Possibly. Possibly. You know, you're familiar with the George Washington writings about the Illuminati. And I am. Yeah. So I heard about those, and I was like, what would convince me? Well, if I looked in the Library of Congress and I found that in the Library of Congress and not on some random Henry McCau web page. It was probably about the Illuminati back in the day. And so I remember going to the Library of Congress online and looking it up and getting the dates, and he wrote several letters. And it's a little confusing because it's George Washington being written to by reverend George Washington Snyder. So the guy who's writing to him has his name plus another last name. I don't know. Maybe they're related. I don't know. It's kinda strange. 

And they have several correspondences, and, Thomas Jefferson also wrote about them. And then I found you can actually get the Bavarian government. Like, there's the Illuminati papers because Xavier Zwack, their their courier got struck by lightning, and then the the Prussian government discovered. So just those little things where people are like, that's made up. It's like, look. Not everything's the Illuminati, but there is a real group in history. And you might have been part of it back in the day because, you know, people wanted a way to get away from the king and to think differently. And sometimes those reading clubs were, like, a thing that was going on. Now did they get usurped and maybe taken over by other groups over time or morph? Probably. 

But it's just getting back to the historical artifacts and the documents that I think gives people that spark. And that's like you are now thinking on your own. No one's you're like, you're you're outside the box they made for you with fifteen thousand hours of schooling, and now you gotta figure it out. And I think that's the adulting that a lot of people do need to have go on in their life, and I think that this is not a too intimidating mountain to climb. People could write this or, read this in a weekend probably. You know? I've heard multiple people tell me they read it in a single day, which after spending fifteen years putting it together is, okay, well, I'll in fifteen years I'll entertain you for another day. 

But no, actually what you say there resonates with me a lot because in that first essay, Reportage Adventures in the New Media, I bookend the book with two essays that are about me and my personal journey so that it kind of puts the personal face on this information. In the beginning, the first essay is about my tumbling down the rabbit hole in two thousand and six, and for me the important part of that experience, the real thing that actually sent me down the rabbit hole, I think, was not just encountering this information which challenged my worldview and and challenged the paradigm I was operating on, it was when I started 

thinking, well, that can't be true and I started trying to look it up for myself. It was that act of looking this information up and finding the documents, well, whatever it was, Operation Northwoods or or, Federal Reserve related information, but with it was when I started actually finding the documents for myself was when I think this this entire enterprise that I've been involved in for a couple of decades now, that's when it really started. And it's difficult to articulate that to anyone from the outside 

because unfortunately I think that we have been made into consumers of media, as opposed to active contributors to the formation of our own worldview, and those are very different things. And yes, of course I do rely on input from a lot of media producers of all sorts all the time, but it is the active part of it that is, I think, the deciding factor between whether you are that adult who is adulting or you are still essentially intellectually an adolescent. 

I think it's, the metaphor of going from being a spectator to now you're in the game. You went from being a consumer, and now you can be a producer. And, you know, you do have a fancy English degree, but that wasn't exactly an education on how to podcast, which is what you helped a pioneer. I mean, Joe Rogan copied from you, bro. You know what I'm saying? You had a big podcast worth listening to. It wasn't exactly long form content like nine eleven synchronicity, but I think the joining of those two, the consistency on your part and the long form content maybe on my part, maybe because I don't know how to be succinct. Maybe that's 

my downfall that can be an upswing for people on long drives and like to press play once. But your consistency over the years is remarkable. Do you take vacations or do you Speaking of which, let me just what do you got? Put the moral on you for, project constellation. That was that was an incredibly important piece of the puzzle as I was putting things together and and also a, sort of an example that I could look to when I was starting my podcasting. Well, I appreciate that. And for my part, it wasn't really intentional. I was just I had said it, like, fifty times to Infowars, but it never got to AJ. And so finally, it made its way around, and it got put out there. And then I was like, oh, I got more. I got lots more. I read all these books. I'd I've done these re done the research on these companies that I didn't do the research. There was no way. Like, 

I didn't have the ability to research those companies before I made them clients. They just look good on the client list. That's a big company. I know I can sell my software there. It was the afterthought of, like, Kroll and Marsh and AIG and just that's the deep state. I mean, and it goes back in history, and the OSS founded AIG. And then you start to, like, see that there's a supranational government organization unfolding and that they have goals, and they write books like New World Order by, HG Wells or Herbert George. You know, before George Herbert, there was Herbert George we need to know know about. So I think that the time is prime for people to start realizing this and that you know, we were at the party early. We saw it getting set up. But now people after COVID, 

they are incredulous about what they're being told by the government, and they're looking for better explanations. And that's what we've all been doing for, like, twenty years now is putting out, like, if you think this cartoon represents reality, look at this eight k high definition, all the details and more where that came from type of self education. And I think the open source decentralized model that you've been rocking and, like, the simplicity of your site always has amazed me. Over the years, it hasn't had to change much because you just do certain things consistently, and you have outlets for those, and you've built an amazing audience. You guys ever have, you know, is there a corporate report conference 

where people from around the world get together? That'd be a thing. That would be a thing, and I've actually thought about a way that I might think about doing that. Although, I did have the, book launch here in Japan, and I did that specifically because, again, I've always wanted to be a writer, and I've always you know thought about being an author and so I thought well it's my first book I'm gonna have a book launch. I don't care if anybody comes. I'm gonna have a little party. And amazingly enough actually there were dozens of people there from all over 

Japan, and some people even came from overseas for that book launch. So, you know, what an incredible moment just to gather people in the physical world to celebrate this rather small achievement, but an achievement nonetheless. So I was very grateful for that. Well, as a friend, I'm very proud of you, James. You've never done anything that makes me cringe. And there are so few people who work and do what we do that I'm like, every time I click, it's solid. It's dependable. And your consistent work with Pilato, what are you guys on, like, episode five fifty by now? Where are you at with New World Network? Ninety five for those people who I can always 

Amazing. Amazing. So do you take vacations? Do you take time off? How do you do, like, the balance of your consistent work plus the big projects with Brock? Shout out to Brock West. Who, by the way, is working on a big project right now that we will see come to fruition probably this fall. But, anyway, yeah, how do I balance it? I just happen to be one of those people who I'm doing this, and I think it is important, so I do it as much as I can. 

Circle for everyone because people out there can support me. When they do, they will do not take a lot of breaks. I do not take a lot of vacations. I do occasionally need to recharge the batteries, and speaking of which, I am probably going to be spending August recharging the batteries and getting stuff ready for the fall because I'll have some things to announce in the fall as well. But, yeah, I was just, it's just constant work, but I'm not complaining about it. It's certainly better than just sitting on my thumbs doing nothing. 

You're bragging, not complaining. Do you have a a a title that the public should know about for this project that comes out in the fall, or is it yet to be made? I never announced things before because you know what? Back in two thousand fourteen, I announced, maybe two thousand thirteen, I announced I was working on a Federal Reserve documentary. You never found it. And it got to the point where every week I was getting a dozen emails, when's the Federal Reserve? When's the documentary? When's the documentary? And I eventually just realized I am never going to preannounce anything ever again. So I don't Those are called work bombs. 

Yeah. For two thousand nine, you announced reporting. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly right. I so for people who haven't seen it, the the trailer is still up, actually, now that my YouTube channel has been magically resurrected. The second coming of Corbit, as it were. You can go back to that two thousand nine post, on my YouTube channel of reportage coming this December. Well, I was only off by, like, fourteen and a half years. And I still have a question. Go ahead, Scott. I had a question about that. So I I had a speaking of not doing anything cringe, I I love how, you know, I don't know if I necessarily wanna I mean, it is worth congratulating you to to get your YouTube YouTube channel back. But even more so, I wanna congratulate you for getting your YouTube channel back. And then, like, the immediately first thing you do is you published a hit song called I Prefreely Screw YouTube. No. No. That was his that was a song that he left YouTube to. Oh. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, you you put it back up, like, right then and just say, hey, screw YouTube. So that's great to to to to just throw it in their face, but good job on that. But, 

so I was gonna ask you, like, what do you think is going on with this? Like, why is YouTube capitulating? Is it capitulation? Are they trying what is the reason that all these things against Rumble? All these memory holes? Yeah. There could I think, again, it's probably one of those things where there's a few different aspects to what's going on here. One of which might be, yes, a a a concern that there are certain segments of the population that are drifting away from the YouTube centralization of all information, so we have to make sure that everyone gets back in the same boat. Hey, guys. Don't don't even look at other alternatives. 

I think there might be some aspect of that. There's probably some aspect of the fact that that we are now fully into the one hundred percent data collection of everything for the AI godhead monstrosity demon that people are summoning, and they want to make sure for example, Google wants to make sure that they have access to absolutely everything everyone is saying, and for the last four years they haven't had access to the Corbett Report at any rate, so that might have been a little hole and obviously not just about James Corbett but all of the other alternative media producers that, that have magically gotten their channels back in the past couple of months there's been quite a few. 

What what is this about? Well it could be the data collection aspect of it as well. Are there other ulterior motives? There could also be of course the left right spectrum is not all that exists in the world but there is at any rate the, the the sort of the reification of the left right in the that enough people believe in it. So we've seen for example Zuckerberg you know, suddenly he's he's on the left. Oh, suddenly he's on the right. He's a based MAGA dude now. Right? And, I think that there's some example of some some extent to which YouTube and others might be reading the political winds and realizing, oh, you know, we don't want too much, 

scrutiny from the congress critters or whatever at this stage. Having said that, again, I do think it is all political theater. But to a certain extent, the fact that people believe in the theater actually does make some of it real. So there may be some aspect of that going on. As to what other motives may be behind a decision like this, again, how how on earth do I know? All I know is that suddenly the exact same bots that that that, flagged all my videos and got me taken off of the the platform altogether 

have now grad magically granted the ability for me to, post exactly what I was posting before and this time there's no there's no flag. Obviously, I was taken off in the depths of the scandemic and that was the time in which we were not allowed to say anything and perhaps to some extent given that it's scandemic mission accomplished, well we got the jab in whatever percentage of the world population and we've established the mRNA platform precedent in all of this. So mission accomplished. Now we can ease off of the gas pedal, and people won't get so scared. 

There there may be some aspect of that as well. I think when they ban people, they create blind spots, and they can't follow you. And they're missing out on collecting data from your audience and learning all about that. So there's there's that part. And then, I didn't see you or Sigurdsson or Dan Dix change your content whatsoever. So they just arbitrarily turned all this the accounts back on, and, they probably just think that, you know, they're getting away in a way with what they're doing because there's been no real change, and they're still in full steam ahead. Yeah. They even apologized. 

There was some line in the, email, something about, oh, sorry for any inconvenience. You know, we've we've done a review, and we've decided that you, in fact, didn't break the community guidelines. Sorry for any inconvenience. Yeah. Yeah. But it's all just boilerplate text. I don't think it would be. Because the people you really need to reach are on YouTube. They're normies. Some people call them NPCs, but I should be Yes. We have all for them. Exact point of the book that I was talking about earlier. It's not this work isn't just for people who are already in the choir. This I truly want this message to get to more people, and 

I certainly have I have to bite my tongue at the audience that was following me on YouTube four years ago, and now suddenly that I've got the YouTube channel back, now they're like, Oh, you're back. Oh, I thought you were gone. What happened? You know, it's really those are the types of people I just wanna but whatever. Okay. But we also gotta think of the ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine percent of the world's population who haven't seen my work yet and have will likely never stumbled across it on Odysee or BitShoot or the other places where they should be looking for it, so 

you gotta reach out to them. And if you gotta reach out on YouTube, then you gotta reach out on YouTube. Although there is the question of when that line needs to be drawn and what is that line. And at the point where we gotta start fingerprinting and eye scanning and whatever else, giving our next of, kin and blood samples and DNA and whatever to the Google overlords, I think that's the point at which we've just got to draw the line in the sand and cut all ties. And I just gotta get you ready to rumble. Go ahead, Scott. I was just gonna say, now you gotta get on x and just have a grand old time now. I'm not looking forward to that. I don't like x. I don't like anything to do with it. Yeah. You know, and it's not just I mean, it's not just a preference. I Did you rock Substack? 

So what's the difference between x and Substack for you? Substack is a medium that that media that, or a platform, I should call it, that I think facilitates constructive conversation. And at at any rate, it is the type of platform that I have found is, in fact, the only platform that I'm aware of at the moment that actually rewards and encourages long form written content. There are not that I mean remember medium dot com? There were like there were platforms like that, but they never really took off. Substack is one where I have found that the audience there actually expects 

and prefers long form written content, which is interesting, and that's something not to be sneezed at. Whereas X to me is just another insta TikTok sort of dumbing down of the conversation down to the smallest number of characters, I realize you can write more on X these days than when I was back on Twitter, but I still think that it is a media that encourages those short snippets and as I said in my post on Delete Twitter back in the day, when I actually got off Twitter, I said, if the medium is the message, then the message of Twitter is I hate you. And I still think that that is essentially what Twitter boils down to, whatever they're calling it these days. 

Whatever they call it. Charlie, do you have any questions for James? Well, I have a comment first. Oh, what do you got for me? And that is that I had a guy named David Sanchez on my show. He's the lead singer and guitarist of a thrash metal band called Havoc. And I we were talking about, you know, the what's really going on in the world, and he said, you'd you might be surprised to know that the the industry, the genre of music that I play in is a lot of people that are very much aware as to what's going on in the world, and sometimes it kinda filters out in their music. And I said, 

who's who's their favorite guy? And they said he said, James Corbett. He's number one on their list. He's he's he's by he's far and away the the number one guy who's like, good choice. That's great. So just so you know, James, you're big in the thrash metal community. I am the thrash metal man of choice. I I I will take that. I don't play much thrash metal myself, but maybe I should When you are in a band, let's talk about your musicality. How long have you been, you know, being in a band? That that was something where I was like, James is breaking out. But it hasn't been going on a long time, or you just let us know? Or Well, okay. I, so when I was seventeen, 

I guess, I I took some guitar lessons and it got to the point where I was gonna have to start learning scales and doing all the boring stuff. That's where I can. I'm not gonna be a rock star so I'll just keep this up. But I've always been interested in music. I've always, wanted to produce music, but I I hung up the guitar for a decade or two. But, it was here in Japan, I was talking to my now assistant who is hiding behind my screen here, Sean. We've been talking about forming a band for forever 

And eventually we were starting to talk about it and I thought well I know that this other guy he he plays guitar, he plays bass, we'll ask him. And so I went to him and I said hey how would you like to join a band? And he's like, okay, let's do it. I know a guy who can drum. So it started to assemble, and then when I knew it was actually going to, turn into something was when I, me and Sean had just recorded some, like, home demo just, you know, on the microphone, nothing special. And I sent it over to, to Murray, 

and he, within twenty four hours, he came back with this fully produced logic track that was sounded like something that was coming out of, like, the radio. It was incredibly well done. And I'm like, oh, okay. I guess we could really maybe do this. So that was how the band came together, and, that was two thousand seventeen, I wanna say. It's been a while. Do you guys gig on a regular basis? What's your do you have the touring schedule? I wouldn't say regular. Is it a hobby? Last gig was in January, and we are on some hiatus at the moment. But, we were working on it Very radio. An album before the hiatus. Yeah. 

Alright. And, what are some of your favorite songs that we might do you have songs that, aren't originals that we might know that you like to sing? I stomp them. Everybody look at it. Is a good question Yeah. That I like to sing. Well, I I you know what? I can do a fairly approximate Billy Corgan voice, which is good because I've always been up to smashing pumpkins. You did nineteen seventy nine. There's all there's a there's an amazing repertoire of 

Corgan. So that that's I lost James's oh, he's coming through. I lost your audio. Are you still there? Yeah. I am. But there was, like, a audio glitch between here and Japan, apparently. Zoom from China has to sit in the middle of our call. So we were, we were talking to Billy Corgan. 

When did you, discover smashing pumpkins? Yep. Oh, wait. Is it my Internet? Let's see. I'm getting out my end too. Alright. Cool. Darn. We wanna know his answers are bad. I don't know if you That seems to be the one topic that's off limits is It's off limits. Fucking they won't let us talk about smashing pumpkins. I need to sacrifice another Tootsie Roll to the tech gods, apparently. 

Alright. Let's let James off the hook since Internet's getting spotty. We don't wanna ruin his reputation in this sterling image of, very competent things being said that could be understood most times. Alright. So, do we have him back yet? It still says red on there for his connection. We got it. Hey, James. Sir James, Can we knight him? James. Yeah. Absolutely. Adam Curry, we can get you a knighthood, dude. Okay. He can hear us. Alright. Cool. 

Alright. So, James, where can people get reportage? Just when you think you could hear him. I bet you could get a corporate report dot com. Book dot com. Reportage book dot com is where you can go buy it. Five by five, we got that. Reportage book dot com. Now when did you get the URL? Is that a long time ago? You planned it and just didn't use it, or did you get it and it's, like, it was still available? 

Got it in two thousand nine. And, you can check that on the Who is. You can verify that. Alright. So, yay for paying consistently to the registrar so you can keep that URL. I had Tragedy and Hope for five years before I made it a site, and we had Grand Theft World for a long time before we made it into a podcast. And then I guess it got sold back to the market. So what I'm saying is reportage book dot com is very easy for people to remember, and that's part of the excellent, marketing ability that a good URL can bring you. James, thank you for carving out a serious part of your morning. I hope that you have a productive and tech error free rest of your day, bro. 

Thank you, Rich. I always appreciate talking to you. Talk to you again. Alright. See you soon, bro. Peace. Bye bye. And, yeah, on links to both corporate report dot com and report reportage book dot com are in the episode description, so check it out. Nice. Alright. Episode description. And can we drop them in the Zoom chat for the people who are GTW members? Oh, look at this camera. And, they get to sit in the Zoom room and be here for the preshow. The oh, I didn't put my phone on, so I won't look at that. I'm I'm booting it. There we go. Phone We were we were talking about getting to the point where we're only like, we wanna do more, like, chat interaction. I do a little bit with you guys on Rumble, but, like, we would like to get to the point where we're just 

doing chat interaction over here on the on the on the backroom here. So that would be fun. If I you know, I I I can't do chat interactions at the same time as I do. An interview. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So, you know, and I got you. Maybe I can cover when when you guys are talking too. What do you guys think? The I mean, the irony appears to me because I teach my students at autonomy how to do interviews. And now I know they're gonna watch the teacher do an interview with someone that they know and love, James Corbett, and then they're gonna judge me. Did I do a good job? And, hopefully, I did justice to his effort because it took him long enough to get that book out, and it gives me courage to continue working on my Rothschild series of books because it's a big topic that is still, 

under known by the public. So we could free some minds maybe. Yeah. Well Whenever I'm writing a book, I have to, make sure that I'm not listening or watching Corbett at the same time. I specifically make sure. Corbett and Whitney Webb because I'm I know it's gonna influence my writing, and I don't want it to because I'm gonna be half watching it. And next thing you know, I'm gonna be ripping it off, and I don't wanna do it. So I intentionally shut it down. I love their their stuff, but I I intentionally shut it down. You can shut it down or you could just reference them. 

Either way. Right? I could see like, you shut it down so you you maintain your originality. Because if your idea is not as good as their idea, you're like, I'm gonna I'm gonna use their idea. But then you just say, like, this is Corbett's idea. Like like, for instance, I didn't interrupt him during the interview. However, the kids in the back car backseat of the car with the steering wheel not making real decisions, like that whole metaphor, he and I have used that for years. And I used it in an interview with Lee Camp, and Lee Camp accused me of Carlos Mencia 

ing his joke. He's like, I wrote that joke in twenty thirteen, and now I have to use Clip Genie and go back in the tragedy and hope archives and see, like, did I say it first? So the the point is people laugh, and they understand it's a metaphor. And it's not really about the messenger so much as the message. And I was also gonna point out to him I know he doesn't watch a lot of media, but I was gonna be like, bro, did you catch the, Tucker Carlson, Scott Horton interview? Right? Like, Scott led a master class and just unfolded all this information. And I remember being excited for Scott as I was listen listening to it. 

And I thought, am I excited because I hear someone on Tucker Carlson talking about all the things I know in deep detail about? And I thought, no. I'm happy that Tucker's audience is hearing from an excellent teacher about this whole history of the deep state. That's what he was unfolding for him. So, I think it's it's been a long time since people in the public actually had a real connection to reality and not a bunch of corporate mumbo jumbo propaganda in between. And, I I think it's about to get good. 

It's getting good. I hope so, man. I hope so. I had an experience recently where it's, like, someone I care about who just doesn't understand the whole vaccine thing and, like, you know, it's you know? It's just frustrating because it's, like, in order to arrive it really kinda reminded me what James was talking about. It's like you had to the building blocks that you have to lay into place in order to come to certain conclusions about certain things. It's it's it's a you have to have all this supplemental information going all the way back in order to have these building blocks so that the final conclusion can be more based in reality. And so it's like, you know, just having this conversation with somebody, I'm just like, 

I would have to spend so much time laying out the blocks. It's like, once was a time in the diamond mines of South Africa. But but it's like, you know, it's like, so so this type of information getting proliferated and and and exposed to new audiences, it helps those building blocks come into place. So then next time I run into that situation, it's more easy to assemble the pieces right there in real time to come to the conclusion. Right. I just now glanced at the chat and see that JT was trying to tell me that Charlie had a question for Corbett and Charlie. I have to say, Maricopa. I did not see that. No. It's And JT, thanks for helping him out. No. It it's okay. I was just gonna ask him 

what he's what he listens to. You know, I've I've noticed that or or what he reads. You know what I mean? Like, when you get in this content creating world, one of the things I've noticed is that you just have less time to listen to everybody else's content. You know? You can't listen to their their albums that you wanna really listen to because you're too busy with your own stuff. And I I was just curious what, you know, what albums he's listening to, you know, so to speak. Well, 

union of the unwanted meeting. Yeah. Right? Who was just there? Some of the who did you go recently? I I always miss it because it's, like, Monday night, and I I don't have the wherewithal to do anything on Monday nights. But we were just talking about union of the unwanted. And Yep. Oh, Adam Curry has been on there. Because he's and I are carrying it, while Mike and Sam do, doom scrolling. They're off doing, 

they're doing doom scrolling. They're they're they're into it right now. I do know some people who watch doomscrolling, so I could see. Alright. It's their sideband. So, so we're just, Ricky and I are are are kinda running with the union. Well, I'll come hang out next time you guys have a union meeting. I'll make it happen. We're gonna we're gonna do one, tomorrow night. I'm I'm just in the mess in the process of texting with Ricky about it right now. So me. Love to have you if you're interested. Oh, well, I think I would look forward to something like that given what else I have to do tomorrow. Also, I got these pictures from LD earlier. He was, like, he was going out to fight a fire, 

and, it was pretty gnarly here. I don't know. Can I show on document cam? Let's see. Let's see if technology helps out here. We need, fixed exposure. Make it less bright. There you go. Look at that. Using the technology. Look. I'll even make a full screen for you guys now that we got all fancified. There's LD. I don't think his beers got any bigger since he left. I'm worried about them. But they're out there fighting this fire. 

They got flat tire. That looks like a gnarly flat tire to have to fix. You see? That's off the rim. That's not easy to keep fighting fire in the woods and not have the tools and stuff. But, anyway, that's the LD update right there. Let's see. Other things we have to do, I have on the show card over here, but I wanted to show you guys real quick. This also pertains to what Corbett was talking about. Not only the Woodrow Wilson nineteen eleven quote, but there's this quote by senator Oscar Callaway that I talked about in hour three of the ultimate history lesson with John Taylor Gatto. And it comes from this nineteen seventy, 

nineteen seventeen congressional record. And, basically, it's saying that the JPMorgan interests, the steel, the shipbuilding, the powder interests like DuPont and these other places that profit from war, they had taken over the media. And I was very incredulous. Right? So I have any number of references where you could see from the congressional record that this really went into the record. And when you get in there, it's kinda it's kinda almost worse than what the quote lets you believe because there's that record, 

there's also, like, the Torkoson testimony, which is very similar that's put in the congressional record that'll talk about the Rhodes Scholars in Britain trying to take over America. So, like, these are not conspiratorial website type things. These are things in the congressional record that were put in during congressional hearings, and I think they should just be known by people who wanna live in a free world before we don't have a chance to live in a free world anymore. If we don't learn from our history, we are gonna be doomed to repeat the deep state, globalist, new world order, they, them, those who can easily be named type of agenda. And that agenda is not in favor of any of us or any of our families. So I think probably, maybe 

people might wanna dedicate a little more time and energy toward insulating themselves and their families and their businesses from these entities that are ill. Yes. It's yeah. Or maybe that's just me. Maybe that's just yeah. I I would suggest that people take advantage of this relative, time of normalcy, if you can even call it that. Sort of get your affairs in order and sort of maybe come at this from a conspiratorial 

or preparedness, way of thinking. Like, what's your relationship with your bank? If they if you know they've legalized bank bail in legislation, well, do you think they're just gonna sit on it, or do you think at some point they're gonna use it? If you think they're gonna use it, have you insulated yourself from that? Have you taken some steps to get some money out or get it transformed into some other thing, like gold or silver or Bitcoin or whatever it is that your land, storable food, you know, 

productive farms, whatever your thing is, I mean, have you have you taken advantage of it? And I feel like it's one thing to know it. It's another thing to act on it. And if you if you know it and don't act on it and it winds up happening, I mean, how much are we gonna kick ourselves? So we Well, I think also the thing that stops people from doing what you're thinking about and talking about is that it's like a switch. You're either unprepared or you're prepared. Right? And it's like people think they can't be prepared in the ways that you just elucidated, 

and so they don't even try. And my point would be you're never gonna be as prepared as you would like to be, but you can be infinitely more prepared than you are right now, and it starts with one little like, I remember in twenty twelve, probably. It wasn't because of the end of the world, but Infowars had a special on some storable food, bro. And that food today is still good. I'm pretty sure it's on it's in a green tote on the shelf with a whole bunch of newer versions of that storable food over the years. But I just realized, like, yeah, it is kinda silly. We could have a power outage or ice storm, and we wouldn't have food. So I'll buy some whatever Whole Foods Direct or whatever it was called back then. And, 

Yeah. I didn't buy it out of fear. I bought it out of what if, we need to be prepared and we're not. That's a realistic evaluation that we as human beings have to make. And I think, again, with the adulting process being so stunted and arrested in its development, most people never get a chance to, like, do all the things you were just talking about. They never start on any of those layers, let alone acquire the benefits of all those layers. Yeah. Just do one. Just do just do one and start the process. Right? And then it starts a chain reaction. 

But I think if you move towards that, toward it's a it's a preparedness state of mind, and you can sort of be in it or out of it. But but you it's and it it doesn't have to necessarily be an all or nothing. You can just be in the process of getting yourself more and more prepared. And I think with that, you you feel a little bit more comfortable. It lowers your stress level. It lowers your cortisol levels. You start to feel like you're taking a little bit more of the power back. Like, well, if something goes wrong, at least I know I'm protected, and then that makes you feel better and 

starts, you know, a very positive process. And and and given how how things went off the rails with with COVID and toilet paper, you know how stupid things can get. And the last thing you wanna do is be fighting some asshole in aisle five for the last can of beans. You know? I mean, get that stuff squared away now while you can. You know? And and I think it took me, like, six years after I got a Berkey to get the storable foods. So the other point is it doesn't all happen at once. Like like, oh, it made sense to get a water filter, 

but it didn't make sense to get storable foods for another couple year. You know? So it's like it's baby steps in that type of growth that I think people need to to embrace in order to outgrow their status quo. Yeah. Scott. I've been so involved in, like, just the whole idea of just building local community, like, our mutual assistance group here in in Nashville. We meet every Tuesday night, and I've been we've been doing it for years. And I remember when I first moved here, I got introduced to them in twenty twenty two. And twenty twenty two is still kinda crazy. People were just coming off of it. It was still a very kind of a uncertain crazy time, and there was, like, literally sixty people 

every week, week in and week out. And the group, it consists of about a little over a hundred people, but, like, now it's like you go it's like ten, fifteen. And same thing, like, in Oregon when we were doing all the freedom cell meetups. When when the boots started to lift, people just kinda went back to their lives. And my argument this whole time has always been just what Charlie was saying. It's like, now that the boots been lifted, this is the time to double down your efforts. And I'll even kinda just give this sort of anecdote. So in the context of, like, twelve step recovery, that is, like, literally the philosophy that we have as well. You know, going to meetings, 

working with your sponsor, like, these are all important things that keep you sober. Right? You got sober, now you gotta stay sober. Even if you don't feel like you're at any risk of having a relapse or anything like that, you still have to stay plugged into the community, stay plugged into your people. It's the most important thing because some one of these days, you're gonna have a bad day. A big crisis is gonna happen. Someone's gonna die in your life. You're gonna have some sort of huge life situation. And when that happens, you already have your community in place to rely on, to fall back on. It's it's like muscle memory. Oh, I'm gonna go to a meeting. I'm gonna call my sponsor. These things are already in your repertoire, and it's just instinctual to do. So when crisis happens, that's not the time to then go start building community or figuring out where the meetings are at or what you're gonna do to get yourself through that situation sober, you know? And so it's the same thing with preparedness. It's like now is the time to build up the infrastructure. Now is the time to get your community. Now is the time to get your affairs in order for when whatever happens happens, 

you already can just jump right into the solution, and you don't have to scramble to figure it out. Yeah. I think the, wait until you need to scramble, is not, evolutionary lineage that is long for this world. I think that human beingness is predicated on us being able to plan, think clearly, have data that comes reflecting reality, and we are immersed in data every day from our government, especially since the Smith Mundt Act in, like, twenty fourteen or whatever where the government's like, we can lie to you now. We can propagandize our own citizens. That's interesting. You guys had to pass so you weren't allowed to do that before then. What changed? 

What changed? In a post nine eleven world, you guys didn't take that back in two thousand two? You didn't put that in the Patriot Act? Like, why did you wait? And then you felt the need. They're like, we're definitely gonna need to lie to these people, and we better have a bill that lets us do it legally. That's what they did. They there's a lot of money and resources behind that act. So I think it's not a good sign when I mean, first off, they lie and they hide it because they know what's wrong, and they know if you knew, they would lose influence. Right there. So you already 

in the audience, you occupy the moral and ethical high ground. And so, really, you just wanna maintain that position and insulate yourself from these stupid people at the bottom of the hill who keep trying to ruin everything, but they need us to go down and ruin ourselves and roll in the mud like pigs to do it with them, and we don't have to. We can choose differently. We can make their game obsolete. Their game sucks. We can choose to make it obsolete. And, we do that with better ideas and creativity and inventive nature and building our skills and meeting new people and conquering new challenges and answering new questions. 

And we can't do that if we are always in a scarcity mindset with arrested development and learned helplessness and all these other things that are inculcated into us from schooling. So we all got lots of work to do. We can't get it all done tonight in tonight's podcast, but if this is the first time listening to a podcast like this, we're gonna play some more clips. We're gonna comment on them. And, I'm not scared to play two Jimmy Dore clips in a row or play them close together because this story about Candace Owens, otherwise, it takes like an hour to go through her whole episode, which I did listen to because I was like, what what's going on? So here's the load the lowdown. 

Emmanuel Macron, the president of France. He used to be a Rothschild banker. That's not a cliche. He actually worked for the Rothschild banking house in France, and that's what qualified him to be a young prime minister president type dude. And he has this very interesting spouse. And it is not my place to comment on him, her, he he she. I don't know. It's not my. But Candace is very not opinionated. She seems to speak from some journalistic facts, which have not been overturned in any court on this planet yet. 

And yet Macron's people keep serving her with legal, you know, summonses and subpoenas and stuff like that. So Trump finally calls over. He's like, Macron's getting a lot of heat because you're talking about his wife situation. And you're gonna hear what she has to say about it. But the fact that this is not an AI, you know, Kyle Dunnigan type of skit, this is a real thing that happened in the news. The president of these United States called Candace Owens because she's got so much media mojo. 

He needs her to cool it cool it down. You know? And, you know, Candace, she's not gonna cool it down, and so that it makes a spectacle. So let's go to Jimmy and Kirk because they can bring us this news, and then, I think it there's no more Jimmy later this episode. This is this is your Jimmy quota for the night as it were, and there is no tiny hat Tim, going on in here with the beanie. There's not in the episode at all. Right? And we are not gonna talk I promise. Talk about the big, beautiful bill. We're not gonna talk about that either because it's a different kind of show. Go ahead, Scott. I was just gonna say I I I threatened the chat with an entire Tim Pool episode earlier because they were coming at me about some stuff. So if you do have some Tim Pool clips Oh, I could. Let's do it, dude. I could. Rest of the show all the time. Out of hand again like that. We could drop Tim Pool, 

like, marathon. Yep. I say next week, Tim Pool marathon. And then every twenty four frames, there's a photo of Tim without his hat just to help you guys keep watching it the whole time when we troll you. Exactly. See? Who's trolling who now? No. I'm just I'm not gonna mess with the chat. I respect it. I love the chat. We really chat. I love the chat. I can't do a Trump impression yet, but I keep trying. Anyway, let's go to Jimmy and Kurb, and, Kurb's gonna have a podcast soon. He's launching his own podcast. I I might have seen, like, promos and stuff. Anyway, that's coming out, but he he's busy. He's a very busy guy right now dressing up like Butcher Bill from Gangs of New York. But, let's go over to Jimmy and Kirk, and they're gonna tell us about Candace, which I know, again, if I had the time codes, we could just show you ten minutes of Candace, but instead, they're gonna show us Candace, and we can laugh along with them and not at them. Let's see how it goes. 

You know, respectfully, mister president, it's not my fault that he married someone with a penis. He doesn't tell us that we're really close to getting this thing done. And he throws in the art of the deal type stuff. He starts complimenting me. He said, Melania loves you. She says you're so beautiful. You're so beautiful. I said, thank you, mister president. Thank you, mister president. You know? Compliments will get you everywhere in life is my mentality here. And then I say to him what I've agreed to already in the back of my head. I say, look. I I I'm I'm happy to do this for the short obviously, I don't want to have on my conscience that less 

Christian men could have died in the east if I just shut up. That's a weird thing to say. Candace Owens said Trump gave her a call over her coverage of Macron's wife's. Here we go. Ready? And I get another message that's like, hey. Keep your phone on. And, anyways, this phone call is coming from Florida. Pick up the phone and lo and behold, you know, so here's what happened. 

I I, I'm I'm I'm negotiating this thing. I'm negotiating Ukraine and Russia. You wouldn't believe how many how many parts are part it is president Donald j Trump. He is calling me. And in true president Trump fashion, he jumps right into the narrative. Yeah. You wouldn't believe how many moving parts there are of this peace process. Lot of parts, lot of ins, lot of outs, lot of dangly bits to trim. Any way you slice it She says that later. Okay. Here we go. Or not. Hey. How you doing? Just, like, jumps right into the narrative of exactly how this went down. I am literally 

I it is hard to catch my breath to comprehend that forty So let's, let's unstrap this. I mean, unpack. Ago, I'm ending a series about Brigitte Macron. And for and and now I'm speaking to the president of the United States. And the topic of conversation, no matter which way you wanna slice it, is about Macron's wipe Any way you wanna slice it, come on. It's a better penis. It just writes they write themselves. 

Penis. I mean, there's no other way to say it. Right? Anyway, penis Penis. It's about Macron's wife's penis. I mean, there's no other way to say it. Right? Anyways, I have Macron. I like Macron. We're speaking at the White House, and and I'm walking him to his car. And, you know, he says to me, mister president, can I speak to you for a second? I say, of course, you can speak to me. But anything, What's going on? And Macron wants to have a little sidebar. And then Macron says to him, mister president, do you know Candace Owens? And I say, yes. Yes. Of course, you know Candace Owens. What's going on? I think it changes everything. He tells me that Emmanuel Macron is requesting to his face 

that I stop speaking about his wife. And one of the things Trump said is, like, you know, he tells me, you know, she's old, and this is really, really impacting her. And And then he said, you know, I saw her, you know, because I I saw her up close, and Oh. She looks like a woman to me. Just like a woman to me. I I had dinner with her at the top of the Eiffel Tower. And I, explained to him that she has had this amazing doctor who specializes in transgenderism, surgeries, or or feminization 

procedures. I'm I'm talking to the president of the states about this, guys. This is crazy. This is wacky. And I said to Trump, and I will be honest, that at that moment, I realized that one day this is gonna go into my autobiography, and so I gotta say something funny. And I just said I said to him, you know, respectfully, mister president, it's not my fault that he married someone with a penis. He just tells me kind of funny. We're really close to getting this thing done. And he throws in the art of the deal type stuff. He starts complimenting me. He said, Melania loves you. She says, you're so beautiful. You're so beautiful. I said, thank you, mister president. Thank you, mister president. You know? Compliments will get you everywhere in life is my mentality here. 

And then I say to him what I've agreed to already in the back of my head. I say, look. I I I'm I'm happy to do this for the short obviously, I don't want to have on my conscience that less Christian men could have died in the east if I just shut up. That's a weird thing to say. But I'm very clear. This is a this might be a stupid question, but how on earth would Macron's wife's dick figure into the Ukrainian peace process? Is it that big? Say that to Macron's wife's dick's face, Jenny. 

I mean, okay. I don't I don't I I'll I'll be honest. I don't give a shit about the, Ukraine war anymore. I just wanna see where this goes. To him that this is this is gonna be short term and that I expect fully expect that in a few months, I will be able to speak about this. He was about to commit to that, but then it felt to me like someone in the background was like, no. We need this conversation to stop altogether. And then he doesn't say no or yes, but he just says, you know, that he really needs to work with Macron long term, and they have this long working relationship. 

And I'm I was very clear. This is not long term for me. Like, you're if you're close to this deal, ink it. Let's get it done. And then he sort of offers at the end. He says, hey. You may come on your podcast one day. I'm great for ratings. They're so Trumpian to give yourself a compliment. So I give him the Trump right back, and I say respectfully, mister president, I'm apparently good for ratings too because you've got you've got, a leader of a country, the president of the country, asking you to ask me to do a favor. So Great great point. That's a great point. Don't know what it has to do with Ukraine. So Ukraine, they can't have peace because of something with that guy's wife's dick, which we know is real because that call Trump just made. 

Yeah. Well and you know the the big deal here is that Candace has the biggest balls. That's what it comes down to. There's the irony. She's got she's she's swinging the biggest dick in this conversation. Jimmy, I nominate. I said Trump should nominate her for the dong finder general because when she senses there's a dong out there, a secret dong, she don't stop till she clenches on and don't let go for dear life. So some people are some people are trying to say this is bad for, her. Even if it's true, she's just tanked her career. 

She's on YouTube. She doesn't need anybody for a career. She's got her David. I have to tell you. What's that? I don't trust David one four two nine seven nine six three today. This sounds like a operative saying something because no real person doesn't wanna know about that. That's right. If the president asked you for something in confidence, that is good for first of all, Trump had to know she was gonna say something. No? How Trump I'm sure Trump didn't say, hey, off the record. Because if he did say off the record, then she wouldn't be saying this because she would have to agree. If someone says to you, and I'm sure she considers herself a journalist, 

if someone says to you, hey. I'll tell you something off the record, you have to agree to that. Then that means that you can't say what they're about to tell you. So, apparently, Trump didn't say off the record. He asked for a favor. So he asked for a favor, and maybe maybe Trump doesn't actually like Macron, and he wanted her to say this shit. Jimmy, I think you're on to something because if you recall when he took those secret documents that the FBI made a fake thing out of when they when they raided Mar a Lago, 

and and I didn't I thought this was maybe, like, silly, but now I'm gonna reexamine it because they said part of those secret documents about Macron's wife is dick. I swear to god that was a thing at the time, and I thought nothing of it. But now you don't think there might be something to that? Now that we know it affects peace in Ukraine. So, yeah, I don't believe that this is a real person, David one four two nine seven nine six three. I don't believe that's a real person. Why would you bother to put all those numbers behind your name? If it but why would you say that, dude? David, you you don't even have the dick of, Macron's wife is what I'm taking from this. Yeah. Oh, if you revealed it, you're by the way, everyone's whose works in government, please snitch. 

Please betray the vile blood oath you took to these evil people and snitch. All good in the world has come from snitches. Nothing. All the good we know about what evil our government does because someone had the courage to snitch. You know? Eric Snowden had to run to Russia. Julian Assange, you told us the last stuff we need to know. That guy took a lot of heat. You know? That's a hero. The snitch. It's Edward Snowden. What did I say? Eric. Oh. So and then I'll just your way. Let me read the rest of this tweet because it's funny. 

Even if it's true, she just tanked her career. If the president asked you for something in confidence, that is good for the country and the world, and you revealed it. You're done. What? I've already unfollowed her, and I will not give her another viewer nothing. She just proved to all of us that she thinks her career and her success matters more than everyone else. She just betrayed our president for traction. Fake. It got two thousand likes, which I'm sure most of those are fake. Well, cheers. It's a like it, but that that sentiment is not a real human sentiment. That's a, an an op. Yes. And we know Obama deployed ten thousand troops to Twitter 

when they signed the Smith Mon modernization act. So here, America First, at USA always wins says, why would one world leader go to another world leader and tell them to stop talking about their wife? You could just say she's lying and, yet, she's a crazy podcaster, but Macron specifically asked Trump to talk to her. This tells me that Candace is onto something, something she doesn't wanna get out. Of course. We know it's true now because of this. That's the most insane historical presidential story since Trump saying the f word at that Yeah. At that, outside the helicopter. And and 

and and now everybody knows that she was in her forties, and he was, like, fourteen when they got Fifteen. She was fifteen when they got together. That's Yeah. It's a it's a terrible story without the dick. That's that's already considered, is that that's a you're a peter ass when you do that. If it's a man if Brigitte's a man, which I think Brigitte is a man. So Yeah. That so the just just the just the part that everybody agrees to on this story is already horrible, which I didn't even know until Candace Owens started talking about it. So the part that's actually that Macron agrees to is horrible. 

Yeah. Remember Mary Kay Letourneau and and her student, and she went to prison because she wouldn't stay away from them? Yeah. Because and now imagine instead of her going to jail, they ruled France, and it affected Ukraine peace process. Am I in cuckoo land? Imagine instead of her going to jail. That era. So this policy was started by Jimmy Carter. 

And, when the Soviets did invade, Eric Margolis, who's a great war reporter who was around then, and Andrei Sakharov, who's the Soviet nuclear physicist and dissident. I quote in the book both of them saying they don't think that American intervention is what caused the Soviets to intervene. But doesn't matter because that's still what the Americans were trying to do was, in Brzezinski's words, give the Soviets their own Vietnam. Now it's July third. Guess tomorrow will be the anniversary. July third nineteen seventy nine was that finding, and you can find it at at Scott horton dot org slash fair use. I have the finding 

there. And, and then when they invaded in December, Brzezinski did say this could give the Soviets their own Vietnam in December. He wrote that in his memo there and said, but, you know, it causes challenges for us too, including Soviet threats to invade Iran. So that's where the Carter doctrine comes from is we're trying to get the Soviets to invade Afghanistan. Then when they did well, we, Brzezinski was trying to get them to invade Afghanistan. Then when they did, he said, oh, no. Now they might come to Iran. 

So now we gotta announce this Carter doctrine in the Gulf to warn the Soviets they better not come. And now this is a recent development to me. My friend Gareth Porter found, great journalist and historian, found a document in the State Department declassified records, which is two weeks after Carter's speech, Brzezinski admitted in a private meeting with Warren Christopher was there, and they were meeting with the Saudi foreign minister. And Brzezinski admitted that we don't really believe that there's a Soviet threat to Iran. We're basically just saying that. 

But Interesting. Because that was Why why was he just saying that? Justify the buildup, to justify the assertion of American dominance on the in the May may I ask you to just go back Yeah. Twenty six years to Mosaddegh. Mhmm. So the convention to the extent that people follow this, the coup was, arranged by Teddy Roosevelt's grandson, Kermit, CI officer in Tehran. This is the popular understanding. And the motive was Mosaddegh's insistence that Iran get 

a bigger slice of its own oil money. That was it. And then Is John So that's true? Yeah. And then John Foster and Alan Dulles, who were brothers, Alan was the director of central intelligence, and John Foster was the secretary of state. They said, See, he's a commie, which he wasn't trying to ally with the Soviet Union, but they were, you know And people always say that he was trying to completely nationalize Iranian oil. I think that's an overstatement. I really should go back and research that better, but I know a guy who's a great energy reporter who says, really, he was just asking for a greater percentage. But they use that as an excuse and see the Americans wanted to edge the British out to take the opportunity to get American dominance over Iranian oil instead of them. And so they use the excuse that, oh, Mosaddegh, he's a pinko if not a red, and so we gotta get rid of him. You may have noticed this is a great country with bad 

food. Our food supply is rotten. It didn't used to be this way. Take chips for example. You may recall a time when crushing a bat Much more religious and much more conservative and tend to reject the kind of modernity that the Shah represented and his absolute rule too. I mean, who in the world is comfortable calling anybody your highness and your majesty and all this stuff? That's so bananas and and archaic to me. It's insane. I don't know. Maybe maybe some people really do like that, but, many do, the evidence suggests. I guess 

so. So but now here's another big part of the Carter Doctrine, was given the green light to Saddam Hussein to invade Iran in the spring of nineteen eighty. Now we know this because, Robert Perry found the document where Alexander Haig, when he became secretary of state under Ronald Reagan, he went and did a tour of the Middle East, and he met with then prince Fad, later king Fad. And prince Fad told him that, yep, I'm the one who gave the green light to Jimmy Carter on behalf I mean, to Saddam Hussein on behalf of Jimmy Carter to invade Iran. 

So now why would Saddam Hussein wanna invade Iran? Well so everybody picture a map of Iraq here. All the land from Baghdad down to Kuwait and east to Iran is predominantly Shiite Arab territory. They're the sixty percent super majority population of Iraq. Saddam Hussein was a Sunni Arab sitting on a secular dictatorship Yes. Run the most and he had Christians and and Kurds and others inside his government, but it's essentially a monopoly minority Sunni regime. 

And then lording it also over the Kurds in the north who are Sunnis, but not Arabs. They're their own ethnicity. And so they were essentially on the outs along with the Shiites. So when the Iranian revolution is successful next door, it's not just a revolution. It's a religious fundamentalist revolution, and the Mullahs and the Ayatollah Khomeini take over the country. So Saddam Hussein is afraid that his super majority Shiite population are now going to choose their religious sect. And after all, Shiite Islam was born in Iraq and then traveled into Iran from there. He's afraid they're going to Wait. She she 

Shiite Islam was born in Iraq? Yes. This is where the split happened after Mohammed died. Right. There was a split where the Sunnis decided that they would just go by consensus and choose their own ministers and imams, basically, where Right. And the Shiites went with The Shiites with the son-in-law. That's right. The son-in-law. That was Iraq that happened in? Well, that's where the big battle of Karbala was and all that stuff going back. So My ignorance astounds me. So it's okay. I know that. But but so yeah. And, like, the main holy site, holy sites are in Najaf and Yes. And in, I guess, eastern Baghdad Yeah. And Samara. Been there, but I didn't get I didn't get the significance. 

So, but so Saddam Hussein, minority Sunni secular Saddam Hussein, is afraid that his super majority Shiite population is going to choose their religious sect as Shiites over their national sect as Iraqis and their ethnic sect as Arabs, and they're going to join up with the Shiite revolution and march all the way to Baghdad and overthrow him. So and in fact, some Iraqis, Shiite factions, were leaving to go to Iran and to join up with Iran and to try to encourage revolution in Iraq. 

So he had reason to fear. So what he did was he conscripted all those Shiites and sent them to war instead. And he asked Jimmy Carter for permission and support, and Jimmy Carter gave it to him. And he launched the war to try to overthrow the Ayatollah. This was right around the time that the Grand Mosque in Mecca was taken over as well. That was in seventy nine. Right. Right. So there was this sense that I mean, just to kind of defend everyone involved, I guess, on all sides. There was a sense that there's an Islamic revolution that could spread throughout the Islamic world Right. And destabilize 

every regime with a majority Muslim population. People were scared shitless. Yep. And in fact, that same crisis at the mosque in Mecca was part of the reason that the Saudis and the CIA and the Pakistanis worked together to take all these kooks and ship them off to Afghanistan to go help the local mujahideen to fight against the Soviet Union. Oh. Better they go off and get killed there or do the Lord's work killing godless communists there than have them still in Saudi and in the Middle East in the gulf causing trouble. It. Right? All these stories are playing out simultaneously. I know that to this day, the takeover of the mosque in Mecca is a is a raw subject 

in in Saudi. Yeah. You can see their reason for fear there. If you had a credible enough Imam Oh, yeah. Like, gain this the popular consent of the people to replace their rule with religious rule, like, real religious rule rather than these princelings on top, the Saud family and Solomon family and all that on top. Oh, yeah. Well, it's the seed of the religion, that city. I mean, it's a yeah. Sorry to interrupt. No. It's okay. So interesting. Okay. I just think it's important to think through, like, what were people thinking given the time and place in which they lived? Right. Yeah. So yeah. So in other words, Saddam Hussein had real reason to fear the accident. I'm not, you know, defending Saddam or the CIA or the Ayatollah Khomeini, but, I mean, like, they're, like, as we all are, products of the moment. Right. And so, 

yeah, just it's an explanation for what was going on Yes. Why he did what he did. That's right. So now America and and Ronald Reagan picks up where Carter left off, essentially, with all this unbroken in on the Afghan policy on and on Iraq. So in Iraq, they supported him for essentially the entire eight years of the Reagan years, and the war didn't end till eighty nine in a settlement. It was and and by the way, you know, Randolph Boren said war is the health of the state, asterisk, unless you lose, right, completely. But otherwise, Saddam Hussein's assault on Iran helped solidify support for the Ayatollah's rule, which was actually quite shaky at that time. 

But people rallied around the new regime because, hey, we're all Shiite fundamentalists now if that's who is in charge of the government that's defending them. Same thing happened in Yemen more recently. I know a guy, reporter in Yemen who told me, well, we're all Houthis now. I mean, which he's not. Right? The Houthis are a sect of Shiites from up in the Sada province. Yeah. They're the ones in charge, and you're attacking us. So now we're all with them the same way Americans rallied around w Bush or whatever. Right? Raul rallied around Trump when he was shot. Right. Exactly. Elon Musk endorsed him that night. Right. No. There's a of course, it's a very familiar human psychology, and it's understandable. I don't judge it at all. So that's what that's what saved the Ayatollah's regime, which may have toppled. Right? It was very unfair. So let me ask you that that war, the, 

Iran Iraq war, which began at the very I think at the very the shot Al Arab at the top of the gulf, the marshy area there, that has reputation as one of the most brutal wars of the century. Is that true? Yes. My understanding was, in fact, I don't know if you're familiar with a guy named the war nerd, Gary Brecher. He did a really great essay about the Iran Iraq war. That's the best thing I ever read about it, where he just compares it to World War one, kinda like what you're seeing in Ukraine now, just brutal trench warfare, tank, and artillery. And then 

to the war nerds, all very interesting because there's the navies are involved, and the armies are involved, and the air forces are involved, and there's unconventional weapons. And and America, it was America that paid for German chemical weapons that Saddam Hussein that they provided to Saddam Hussein that he used not just mustard gas, but including Sarin and Tabin nerve gas that they used to target Iranians in the field. Know that for certain? And we know that they supply them with satellite intelligence to use to target. The US government made it possible for Saddam to use chemical weapons against the Iranians. That's right. So the US dollar is not the bulwark it has been for our lifetimes. It's actually getting weaker. It's depressing, but it's true. Decades of Washington 

are investing today. Part of the justification for invading Iraq in two thousand three. That's right. Well, we'll get there in just a minute. No. But I know. But it's just like, so I have heard that, oh, the US paid for the chemical weapons that Saddam used against the Iranians and the Kurds. And they even spun it for him when he used them against the Kurds. Kurds. They blamed it on Iran. The DIA did a big report blaming it on Iran when Saddam gassed Halabja, which, you know, was in Colin Powell's speech of why we have to attack them. And I was like, back then, y'all covered for him. I mean, Colin Powell was Reagan's national security adviser. Right? He was in the administration at the time when they blamed that on Iran. 

It's so crazy. It is. And and just to just to linger for one for a moment, we know that's true? Oh, yeah. There's in fact, at at f f f dot org, the Future Freedom Foundation Mhmm. There's a article by Jacob Hornberger that I believe is called where did Saddam get his WMD? And he has links to, like, ten very thorough sources all about this. There's no question about it. They admitted over and over. Post Times, Newsweek That is Wall Street Journal. Whatever. Yeah. 

And then, you know, twenty years later, we're invading Iraq because he might have chemical weapons. Right. And it turned out mentions this? Yeah. And it turned out years later, the only ones that they ever found in the country were from the eighties. Stuff that America had helped them purchase from the Europeans then. It was the only stuff that anyone ever found, and that was why they covered it up was because this stuff that Ronald Reagan and George Bush's father had helped supply them. And so we don't really wanna emphasize that so much when the claim had been that there was an ongoing program to develop this stuff circa early two thousands, which, of course, couldn't have been further from the truth. But now so the same time that the Iran Iraq horrific bloodbath is going on, the Iran Iraq war, America supporting the mujahideen in Afghanistan, 

and this included, as we were just talking about, the Arab Afghan army, the International Islamist Brigades or Islamic Brigades. And these were mostly Arabs, but included Americans and Chechens and Filipinos and people from all over the place went and traveled to Afghanistan to fight to to essentially bolster the Afghan Mujahideen in their war against the Soviet Union. I knew people in who did that. Yes. And when I was a kid, this was an open secret. They made Rambo three about it. Where in fact, the the hero in Rambo three, Rambo's mentor, Colonel Trotman, 

tells the Soviet KGB interrogator, we already had our Vietnam. Now you're gonna have yours. That's built in to the story. That's why we're helping to do this to them is to break them and which, by the way, I think worked. Right? I I don't really think it's disputable that the Afghan war was one of the straws that broke the US, without ours back. It was their Vietnam, actually, in the end. Yep. And and just to bolster what you're saying, in July of nineteen eighty six, I went with my dad to a cocktail reception in the US Senate 

for these guys, for the Mahajuddin and their American supporters who had gone over there wearing their headgear fighting this. So I mean, I it was totally out in the open. It wasn't this was not a secret at all. Yep. And so Yeah. And then the warlords that America backed there, our favorite warlords were Gubaldin Hekmatyar and Jalaluddin Haqqani. I remember. Two of the worst throat slitting, murderous warlords in the country and and ended up becoming America's enemies in our Afghan war later on. 

Good. But so Alright. So, he started with the on July fourth nineteen seventy nine. No. It was July third. Carter's national security adviser, Zabini Brzezinski, launched operation cyclone where they worked with Osama bin Laden. Those are like the opening lines to the document not documentary. It's a it's a film. It's called Who Killed John O'Neil. It's about nine eleven. If you watch the first few seconds in fact, let's pull it up just so we could, 

be accountable to our referencing here. The whole point is that trilateral connection of David Rockefeller, Zbigniew Brzezinski, bringing in Jimmy Carter started the integration of the use of Arab proxy armies that Allen Dulles in the deep state in America brought over and bought from Kim Philby at MI six, and that operation cyclone is reflected here in the history blueprint. And it is the precursor 

to Iran Contra. It is the integration with warlords who run opium in Afghanistan. The British had a first, second, and third Anglo Afghan wars. That means England was at war with Afghanistan trying to take the East India company right to all that opium so they could continue to subjugate China. There's a long history, and it's blocked from Americans. So if you don't know that history, you can't understand the gravamen that precedes things like BCCI, 

the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, which has people involved in it like James R. Bath, who is on the Bush, the W. Bush AWOL document that Dan Rather got fired for. I showed it last week, I think. It was in the Mark Lombardi book. So there's a lot of overlap between the Saudi proxy armies, the deep state, and the people who have been running this country into the ground pretty much for my entire lifetime. Now Scott has found let's go back over here. He's found, who killed John O'Neil. So, Colby, go ahead and just roll the first thirty seconds of it, and I think that'll be plenty. 

July third nineteen seventy nine, the CIA gave birth to Islamic fundamentals when president Carter signed a directive for United States intelligence to provide radical Islamic thinking and arms to Afghan fighters before the Soviet Union invaded. This is documented in nineteen ninety eight interview with Spigley Brzezinski, Congress' national security adviser. Who killed John O'Neill? Who killed John? John O'Neill killed John O'Neill. Alright. Go ahead. Pull it. 

But you can also find that same reference on Scott Horton dot org forward slash fair use if I paid attention correctly to his URL drop during that Tucker Carlson interview. So, anyway, I would recommend that everyone, if you if you're interested in such things, he unfolds that history for, like, I don't know, two and a half hours. It's a pretty long interview. We can't play the whole thing here. And Scott is a forthcoming guest on this show. I'm sure it'll be a lot more exciting than him having to go up to Maine and listen to that Tucker guy. I'm sure this will be, like, the bright light in his week coming up. Anyway, 

he did a very fine job of not only illustrating the history, telling a coherent narrative, but also referring the audience to the source materials, which is what Corbett and I were just talking about. It's like Scott is also someone who helps people find It's like if you like what he's saying and what he's writing in his books, like, he got that information at places. Like, I have a lot of the books that he was referring to. You know, there's the Perry book. He was a investigative journalist during the Iran Contra days, and some of these people left behind artifacts. And if you take all the artifacts, you put them together, and then you slam on top Barry Goldwater's 

memoirs with no apologies, and you'll hear him declare there are nonelected rulers, and they formulate a deep state, and they've been driving American policy, and taking the people down with that policy. And it's been going on a long time. So for people who wanna say it's conspiracy theory, I say, you know, leave them to Jesus, I guess. Leave them to the new world order. But for people who are interested, like, well, what would be your step by step method of arriving at that conclusion? Boy, have we got some documents for you if you're a thinker. 

So, what did you think about that, Charlie, since you've written in your book, The Octopus Conspiracy, the nature of the deep state, its international, supranational influence on our, daily endeavors. What are some thoughts that might have arrived, while we are listening to Scott? Makes me think of the Bill Clinton quote that there's a government outside the government, and I don't control that. This 

permanent state is another name I've heard them call it before. It it just is the one that doesn't change over in an election. And, and and so many of the you know, we have the managerial class which changes over every election. But the but the true string pullers are in the shadows, and, and and they allow us to use these politicians as human pinatas or chew toys as they're called, you know, for let us get angry at them and direct all of our frustration towards these people, but they're disposable. I mean, they are the epitome of a cutout. They're dangled in front of us and then recirculated 

into the mainstream media for some of them and, you know, to to move it out to pasture. But, but what remains is this power that's so entrenched in its its not just governmental. It's interlocking boards of directors and corporations that are intertwined with one another. It says as George Carlin talks about the the unnecessary group meeting that they don't necessarily need to have because they understand that their, 

interests align. They know what works best for them, and they don't need to go have a meeting with everybody to, to hash that out. Though they do, and they call it Bilderberg, and it happened two weeks ago. So, and, of course, there were plenty of reporters that we know who were there, making Peter Thiel sweat even more than normal, which is, apparently not that big of a task. So Yeah. And the other thing I want people to understand is I don't think Bilderberg is, like, they're having a meeting and coming up with a plan. I think that's where they hand the plan out to the underlings. 

They've had meetings that we don't know about prior to that meeting. And so for them, it's just like informing their small ring within the ring, you know, the next ring out, the next layer out, and that's what people get exposed to because I would, you know, I would imagine that they have to have a little bit heftier security. Like, the bill not Bilderberg. Club of Rome is another similar group. Right? So where did the club of Rome come from? Did the whole plan come from a club of Rome meeting? No. 

Was it Percy Rockefeller? I forget which Rockefeller it was, but they had a Bellagio estate, like, on Lake Como in Italy, someplace like that. They had this meeting among the industrial tycoons, and then they created a working group, which became known as the Club of Rome, and it pursued an agenda that was defined outside of that group. So I'm I'm just looking at Bilderberg kinda the same way. Like, there's some people who wanted some stuff done that's a working group to kinda advance that. 

The Venn diagram interlocks, quite a bit with these these groups. And that interlocks with the interlocks of Mark Lombardi. Scott, what do you think? Well, I was just saying, like, what Charlie was saying. So in this in this image right here, this is from Free Thought Project. It's an update of the classic Democrats, Republicans, but it's, of course, you know, no matter who's in charge, it's still the same regime. It's still the same bombs dropping. It doesn't matter what flag is on the plane. It's whether it's the pride flag or the back of the blue flag or, you know, the never forget nine eleven flag. It's the same agenda carries forward no matter what. And so all the rest of it is just window dressing to kinda give us the perception that there's 

control happening. But See, Corbyn didn't have to write a whole book on it. He could've just made a meme. Exactly. That's the power of memes, man. It's like it's it's in in it's completely like, the the one of my favorite memes, of course, is the one that says, you know, their trillion dollar propaganda program literally gets destroyed by one stupid meme, dude. And that's you know, we have the advantage in that way, I think, in a lot of ways. That we have the memes, we have the truth, we have the information, and and we're we're working diligently to get it out. And again, if so, all of you, it's up to you now to take this information, 

clip it, share it. Leave it like a thumbs up on the video and and just hitting follow, subscribing to the channel, sharing the episode with a friend. Like, that goes a long way to make it so that it's so much easier for this information to get out there. Well and there is once upon a time back in Project Constellation that I talked about the power of memes. Right? Like, a meme could be just something as simple as me informing you that in the FedEx logo, there's a white arrow that points forward. And it's been there the whole time, and you might not have seen it, but now you're not gonna be able to unsee it. And that is a example of a meme. And that's, 

you know, it's not a recent phenomenon. Memes I think Dawkins came up with the idea of a meme, so it really comes from the Eugenesis in the first place. So the fact that we've owned the memes and, we push back against, like because the point of that meme can you put it back up on screen real quick, Scott? Yeah. Well, the the plane's flying over. It's dropping bombs, and it doesn't matter who's in office. The the deep state military industrial complex agenda continues to unfold. Sometimes it's steered a little bit by APAC who were attacking, but it's you know, they wanna drop the bomb someplace. 

They gotta dehumanize people someplace in the world in order for us to support that. Otherwise, we'd be saying, what are you doing? You're killing innocent people. Right? So there's a whole process of propaganda that has to take place and go back to what Horton was saying about the Iraq war. You know, we we had no we as Americans had no idea about, like, Rumsfeld giving them chemical weapons for against Iran, like, the whole setup. Right? It was such a setup. They're like, this this guy, we're gonna set him up like a dictator, and then we're gonna take him down. The British put Saddam Hussein in power after grooming him in nineteen sixty eight. So there's also a long Anglo American establishment double cross system history 

of the people who, like, are the stories about which you think you've been getting news. It's like it's a lot deeper than most people imagine. I think that's the point. And you get the overlap when you get the meme of all of the rulers who have partnered with the United States who are up in the clouds, motioning for, Zelensky to come join them. You know, a long list of, who's Hussain's and Gadaffis and and whatnot who have had the misfortune of being America's pet for a while 

until it decides that it's moved on, and it's just not quite enter into them anymore. Ho Chi Minh was at the Vietnam no. No. Sorry. Ho Chi Minh was at the Versailles Conference of nineteen nineteen, and he expressed that Vietnam wanted to be a free country like America. So right after that, I think the French occupied, and then the French handed it off to America. And America said, no. You will not compete on our world stage. You will remain Vietnam. Right? Today, it does compete on the world stage. A lot of things made in Vietnam now, but after it's been conquered 

by Western military industrial media complex, and that's the way that they spread their corporatism. It goes back to, like, Smedley Butler in war is a racket, that he was a high priced thug. Like, he was a thug for the the the ruling class. And if if, United Fruit wanted to take Guatemala, then the CIA will go knock off our Benz for them, and that United Fruit is actually bigger than the CIA. The companies that created the CIA to do its purposes are bigger and more powerful than the company they created for its purposes. 

If AIG creates Kroll as a private security company that does all this stuff, also tie back to who killed John O'Neil that we were just checking out. If they do that, isn't AIG more powerful than the thing they create to make the armored cars and protect the presidents and stuff like that in the security company? Yes. Yes. And that still goes back to Western intelligence. So there's just, like, a lot of overlaps in the history that people are not aware of when they're signing up for their insurance or their kidnap and ransom policy. Yeah. Again, as Dave Smith says, it's like, if you wanna see who we're gonna be fighting in ten years, look who we're funding and supporting and training today. And there you go. There's Bin Laden, Hussein, and Noriega, and Gaddafi in the cloud saying, come on, Zelensky. 

It's water's nice up here. That's a good point. That's a that's a well constructed meme. It tells me someone intelligent on the other end, and they're making us laugh and not just teaching us. But that's a powerful lesson right there. One frame. Picture says a thousand words? Well, you've you've got the picture saying a thousand word for for the educated audience. Yeah. And then you've got the sort of bullshit style of just the the 

the the simple messaging, you know, the closed fist and the the single word for the uneducated peasant farmers to get them riled up. So you it's sort of know your audience. Right? Whoever you're you're needing to appeal to, you wanna make sure that that messaging is targeted just right. Oh, we have a seventy percent of the people here don't read or write. Well, then let's make sure that the message is simple, direct to the point, and you can put it on posters, and everybody will figure it out. But if you've got a you've got a intelligent 

audience that you want to, destabilize your enemy by ridicule, well, mimetic warfare can can slice and dice like nothing else. I mean, it really just conveys a ton of information all at once, which is why the it is true that the left can't meme. And I think there might be something to the fact that, like, you know, when I get one of those memes, it it just validates the fact that, oh, man, I know stuff. I'm in the know. Kinda Kinda the same thing with this show. Like, when Richard makes a joke, it's like, if you get it, if you get the joke, then you're in the know. If you don't get it, you're like, damn. I got a lot more to learn. 

Well and the other thing is, like, the meme is encrypted. It protects it from being read by dumb people, and you have to have a piece of cultural context to unlock the meme to know why it's funny. And that's like it's better than click if you're a human. You know what I'm saying? Like, the fact that you can get a meme versus the people who don't get a meme, like, you know, there's some popular ones where it's like everybody gets it except a small number of people, and it's like, you gotta wonder. What have they been doing? What have they been doing? 

The other aspect is as I try to copy and paste here, the meme is something that is outside of their game theory. Okay? So, like, the deep state is continuity of a military industrial complex agenda for the ruling class backed up and protected by the media, and that can only go on in situations where the audience believes it without questioning it critically and looking at it in an objective way and weighing both sides. Right? 

And that phenomenon has continued to help freedom prevail. Like, the the deep state is like the Rand Corporation and Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and all these companies that are they're busy making the next weapons of mass destruction. They don't even know who the enemy is yet, but they gotta make some stuff. They'll find an enemy. Like, show me the person. I'll I'll show you the crime. That's a Joseph Stalin saying. Right? They can make anyone guilty out there and use these weapons on them. And so the fact that you can outsmart the Rand Corporation and their game theorists who are are trying to take away everyone's freedom forever, 

I I think that, you know, people should appreciate that. Appreciate that win because freedom will always be a step ahead because they're trying to eradicate something they don't understand. And they don't understand why you just can't get on board with the slavery. Why can't you just be slave a little bit? Just be a slave and enslave other people, and everything will be fine. You know? They won't, you know, cancel you. But if you try to help other people become free, all the slave masters get together and be like, we've got one that can see. We've gotta shut them up. 

We got a lot of money invested in this. Right? Bill Hicks. He nailed it. So as we move forward, think critically and, ask, like, what is what is the evidence of the thing that's being claimed. Right? People use words, and the words can describe reality or unreality. The person can be winning or unwitting. So someone can pass on bunk information, but they're a good person. They just didn't know any better, and they didn't check the facts. Right? So we always have to be diligent. It's not because someone's always trying to trick you. Like, innocent people, good willing, 

good hearted people make mistakes and pass on information that doesn't reflect reality. So practicing intellectual self self defense isn't being contrarian. It's just caring enough about your cognitive state and your connection to reality that you want to be existing, represented by existing facts about things that actually exist in the world, not in this vile. It contains anthrax, and Saddam Hussein will use weapons of like, that nonsense has killed hundreds of millions of people, 

like, probably during my lifetime, let alone the twentieth century. And it's because there hasn't been any free media pushback. Right? And there were people who were doing something similar back then as Alex Jones, but they had much, much, much, much smaller audiences. Right? So the fact that still today, that man is on the radio, and he's trying hard. He's you know, he gets shit wrong, of course. It's about the message, not the messenger. And I think a lot of people want the messenger to be, like, some superhero, 

and he's just a dude. But you know what he could use? Some other dudes on his team backing him up, putting out facts. And when he doesn't when he says he has the documents but can't get him out, how about we go find those documents and maybe make a podcast about them? Right? Corbitt's made an entire career out of doing things like that because the documents, it's not like he discovered all the documents. They existed out there. He just had to find them and then read them and say, what do I think about this? And, you know, you don't have to be, like, a superhero to lead people to freedom. But I do think it is heroic and courageous 

and brave and bold to try to help people find the reality. If you've gone through some work to find it and you create something useful that helps other people connect with that, maybe consider it. They don't have to accept it. I don't care if they accept it or believe it. I just want them to know that there are options other than what these lying fucking bastards have been telling you the whole time, and you could probably do better. You could do better. That's it. What do you what do you guys think? Super male vitality probably would also help as well just to make sure. 

You gotta get the methylene blue is what I heard. Got to. You know what I mean? RFK junior gobbles it, which I don't know if that's is that a good thing? I don't know. I've been I I caved. I got some. I've been on Oh, you got some? Did you get the capsules or the liquid? I got the liquid. I got the well, he he was doing buy one get two free. I was like, I can't pass that up, and they accidentally sent me a fourth bottle. So I got four bottles of one, dude. I gave one away to a friend, but Now does it give you the lightning out of the fingers like Rosanna and Barnum? I haven't felt I haven't felt the lightnings. I think I'm just so healthy that I just don't really feel the effects. Like, I haven't really felt the effect. My mitochondria are dialed. You're in the test group. I'm in the control group. Maybe you're in the control group. And my mitochondria are just crushing. Like, how can I say it? Mitochondria is fine. 

There you go. I don't know. But it's I mix it in with, like, I usually do it with, like, my pre workout anyway before I go to the gym. So I maybe maybe I do feel don't even realize it. Yeah. Well, hearing him pitch the ad for methylene blue that many times, I can only make fun of it so many times before. Like, I was painting the basement floor gray, and by the time, like, I noticed, like, I had chosen blue, and now I'm painting it methylene blue. That's what color ended up staying. So my basement floor is now methylene blue, but I've never tested it, and I'm not sure I'm not sure about those claims. It you turn it started as, like, a fabric dye in Germany. 

Right? So So I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. It goes it goes all through your brain. They saw in the autopsies. Is that a good or bad thing? I'm not sure. I have to do some research before I can consider that offer. But I took it under advisement. I know it's available, and it's popular. But this show is not sponsored by such things, so we're gonna move on. Now, oh, we have thirty minutes left with Charlie too. So I wanna make sure that we don't play a super long clip. We are going to go do you wanna see Lex Fridman annihilated by Scott Horton, or 

do you want the proof that the government's lying about Iran, which is Lex and Scott Horton? I say the own. I wanna see him get Right. Let's get let's see if Lex gets annihilated. Now I have not seen this clip, but I was enticed by its click baity title. Right? Now if we think afterwards that this does not deliver, if Lex is not annihilated, like Alderaan, annihilated like Alderaan by Scott Horton, I would consider this a misleading title. Right? Not that Scott couldn't do it, but I'm just not sure that he did do it. I didn't I didn't see the clip. So I need to be convinced. 

I'm incredulous. We're gonna watch it together. This is not softball with Tucker Carlson where he just gets to lay out the whole thing uninterrupted. There's some tension going on in this particular interview. Maybe so. Decisions I could get you. Alright. Right on. Alright. So, let's go to, Lex and another guest and Scott Horton. Make if I gave you hundreds of millions of dollars. Let me you cannot control my decisions 

with money. The blind spots that Lex Fridman has, I'm trying to be nice, but, like, he's so ridiculous in in this clip. You'll see for yourself. But I I clipped out part of this, and you'll sort of see the buildup into this conversation. Let me just let this clip play out, and then I will, highlight for you at the end the ridiculousness of, Lex Fridman in this clip. So here we go. Why couldn't he pick the pick up the phone and say, hey, Putin. I need you to call the Ayatollah for me and tell him, hey. You'd like to see him lift these sunsets too and this and that. Why? Because they framed him for treason, so he was completely unable to engage in real diplomacy with Russia. And I bet that he'd agree with me on that one too. So, Next, actually, could I just say one thing interesting? And, again, I think it's gonna be a later topic, and so it's it's gonna be a provocative statement, but I think let's put it on the table. 

I absolutely agree with Scott. I mean, I think it was a travesty that the the of the accusations against Donald Trump as a Russian agent. I mean, completely debunked, but it it did. It I think it paralyzed his presidency for two two and a half years. I I agree with Scott. The idea that you would accuse the president of the United States of being a foreign agent for Vladimir Putin, I think is unfounded. And I I I thought at the time disgraceful, and I thought it was really important. I think Scott did really good work in in debunking that. I would say that just a couple days ago, I was watching a podcast. 

Scott was on, and he accused, Trump of being an agent for Netanyahu and the Israeli government. So I think, again, the accusations of the president of the United States is a foreign agent for some foreign government, I think we should just put all of that aside in any discussion and just say president Trump makes his own decisions whether we agree with him or agree with him. But he's not working for the FSB, and he's not working for Mossad. President Trump makes his own decisions based on American national security. No. That was making a point. That's hyperbole making a point, but he did. In fact, could you Google this for me? Because I always forget exactly how many hundreds of millions of dollars that he took from Sheldon Adelson and Miriam Adelson Who are Americans, by the way. Who are Americans, who Sheldon Adelson said his only regret in life is that he served in the American army instead of the IDF and said America should nuke Iran in order to get them to give up their nuclear weapons. He said, I have one issue, one, Israel. 

And they gave Trump hundreds of millions of dollars over three campaigns. That's not just a jeez. I really hope you'll think of me in the future. Scott, first of all, a couple things. So one, there's a lot of people that are friends with Trump and try to gain influence. I believe that Trump is an American. He's making his own decisions. Let's for the purpose of this conversation, just focus on that and see what are the right decisions and what are the wrong decisions. And, I wonder what decisions I could get you to make if I gave you hundreds of millions of dollars. Well, me personally, you can give me an it doesn't matter. I couldn't even get you I couldn't get you to drop in on over a ramp or nothing for a hundred million bucks. Nothing. You cannot control my decisions 

with money. It's the American system, Lex. That's how it works. It's money. I appreciate it. Yeah. We can we can go down that route. Same if we're talking about Archer Daniels Midland company throwing hundreds of millions of dollars around. They get policies based on their hundreds of millions of dollars. The squeaky wheel gets the grease. Right? All that. So, Lex, I think you're right. I mean, I think Elon Musk spent, what, four hundred million dollars helping Trump get elected. And, obviously, there are a number of philanthropists. I think, clearly, his son, Don Junior, has had a lot of influence in who gets selected in these positions in the Pentagon, NSC. I think Tucker Carlson has had a lot of influence. So I think, as you say, there's he surrounds himself with people who have certain ideas, ideologies, 

policies. The president makes his own decisions. I just wanna touch on just one thing because I I I don't wanna leave this alone, just out of respect for for the victims of Iran backed terrorism and hostage taking and assassinations since nineteen seventy nine. You know, this is the regime that took our, took hostages in seventy nine, took our diplomats hostage. Scott says, you know, eighty three was really the only thing that happened and and throws out a lot of information, certainly some some pretty 

breathtaking accusations that somehow the Israelis knew about this and didn't tell the Americans and and Some Assad officers' accusation. Yeah. Victor Ostrovsky is his name. Yeah. I know exactly who he is, and and he's been widely discredited. Let me let me just stop here because as I was watching this, I I you couldn't hear, but I I gasped, when, just just the sheer like, it it borders on insanity. And I I don't really quite know how to how to describe it. But this is one of the reasons why I don't listen to Lex Fridman. 

Just the the is it the naivete, the ignorance, the stupidity, the, like I don't know. I I don't even know what to call it. But when he stops when he stops Scott Horton in the middle of making his point, when he's when he's about to expose the most obvious thing in the world, which is you have and exposing the whole, you know, corrupt political system. You have people that are donating hundreds of millions of dollars to a president. And then on the other end of it, they're getting exactly the policy outcomes that they want. What else what else are you gonna look at? What else are you going I mean, it's it's just exactly what it is. And then for for for Lex Fridman to say, well, 

you know, you can you can donate me, you know, as much money as you want, and it's not gonna change my opinion. Well, okay. Well, maybe you're unique or maybe maybe subconsciously you're getting influenced or maybe you just don't realize it or maybe you're just not you know, maybe you are different. Who knows? But, like, you're not like any or all of these other people. Of course, they're getting influenced. Of course, our senators, our congresspeople, the presidents, all these people who are tied up with all this influence and all these donor money and all this thing. That's why the the system at its core is so rotten and so broken is exactly 

this. This is why the people are so frustrated. This is exactly what's happening. And for you to brush it off like that is just it it it completely destroys your credibility. It makes you it's it's so obviously, you're just so obviously, like, ridiculous. So, anyway, I just found found that moment interesting. Let me know what you guys thoughts are on that, and, yeah, we'll leave it at that. Well, I mean, it was super heated and contentious. It wasn't 

too intense. But yeah. I mean, Lex is just he just plays the game, man. He just he's he just goes along to get along. He was never gonna step outside the buzz. Like, well, let's just not talk about let's just let's just, let's just keep it outside of the danger zone. And, I mean, now money money doesn't really factor into any of this stuff. I wonder how much But he doesn't wanna get censored and lose his ad revenue. Yeah. I wonder how much you make, Lex. How how much are you getting paid to not push the topics that need to be discussed? 

Is Lex independently wealthy? Did I miss something? I thought he was like a MIT student once upon a time. Maybe he's in the job job world. Maybe he gets paid for his podcast. Does he obviously his sponsors? Right? Might not wanna lose those sponsors, but, you know, he pretends to be a man of the highest virtue who can withstand the highest bidder, and yet he seems only to do the bidding of the people with the lowest virtue. So I'm not sure what to think. I think people got suspicious when they realized he had no personality, and yet he was always being suggested as the podcast to watch on YouTube, and people started asking 

questions. Why is it that this possible robot is so highly ranked and yet staggeringly boring at the same time? It is truly a mystery. Lex Bot twenty twenty five does not accept money unless you want to pay him three thousand dollars for the ad read. I'm just kidding. I don't know if he does ad reads, but he probably does. I'm gonna investigate that now. I'm gonna have to listen harder to Lex Fridman to see, like, oh, is he is he somebody's like, is his dad a famous guy? Is he somebody's progeny? Is it a you know? I'm I'm just concerned. 

I'm concerned that there's millions of people listening to Lex Fridman feeling just very comfortable that they don't even have to think about that as if he's just like an Ethan Klein bot. You don't have to think about it, dude. Thank you. Thank you. See? Yeah. And he said that about COVID and taking the shot, by the way. That's the context because we played it live once upon a time. That's how it got on the soundboard. Well, I think I think that, you know, he was obviously very pushed and promoted by Joe Rogan. That's back when I used to listen to Joe Rogan a lot and all respect to Joe Rogan. I mean, you know, it's whatever. He does interesting stuff. But at the same time, you know, we're, of course, we wanna get a shirt on with with Joe Rogan. So I'm not gonna go anything. I'm not gonna go too far off the deep end here, but but I will say I think he probably was pushed and promoted by Rogan 

because I think out of all the guests Rogan has had, he he might be the only one that Rogan is actually taller than. So I don't know. He made him famous when Lex passed out at the he partied too much, and he passed out at Las Vegas airport. And there was some funny stuff that happened about that. But, yeah, I mean, the guy, he's gotta look. You know, he's got his uniform. Right? He wears his uniform. He does his thing, and he keeps you safe from the narratives that go against the narratives that pay really well. 

Or maybe he keeps the advertisers safe. Is that how that works? I'm not sure. I'm gonna have to look into it. Yeah. But that's the thing. It's like he said I'm Lex curious now. Yeah. He's like, you can't pay me a hundred million dollars to do anything, but we can obviously pay you a lot of money to not do something. That's that's it's very it's the lies by omission, the most devious lies. And Lex is, you know, undoubtedly, he is a member of the mainstream alternative media, and we can most certainly put him in that category of And that position would be put in jeopardy by reading one nation under blackmail or tragedy and hope or Anthony Sutton or G. Edward Griffin or, 

Barry Goldwater or James h Billington firing the minds of men. You can't have that type type of stuff on the Lex Bot radar. It'll break. But I do find it's cute that he's like chat g p t that, like, he can have those contradictions all the time. He's paid not to read those books, I believe. I think that's the that's part of the Noam Chomsky. It's you know, are you saying that what I that I don't believe the things that I'm saying? No. I'm saying that if you believe something different, you wouldn't be sitting in that seat, and that's kind of how I feel with Lex. If you believe something different, he was curious enough to read those books. He wouldn't be promoted 

by the algorithms the way he is. That's true. That's true. And to be kind to Lex, English isn't his first language, I'm pretty sure. Right? Because I've seen his interview with Michael Malice. I'm pretty sure he's Russian. So I don't even speak a second language, so I can't really make fun of him for speaking English so well. Even if it's like something out of Lost in Space. Do you remember that? The robot from Lost in Space? The original 

series, not the updated bullshit. The original had to do. Well, then you're missing out on a childhood that I got on that we only had four channels when I was a kid, bro. Like, so after a certain age, you're not there yet. But when you get to a certain age in the generations, like, we've all seen, there was only so many episodes of Seinfeld, so many episodes of Cheers. Right? So, like, I Love Lucy. Any of those things. There was a lot of people who were, like, mass programmed. I'm one of them. So, 

yeah, take that with a grain of salt. Alright. So as we move forward tonight, we don't have any more we had more Horton, but we don't have time to play more Horton. Because we had something go on this week called the Tootsie Roll trial results. What what was that? Was there's a topic that they were oh, Diddy. Diddy had a trial. Diddy had a trial. It was called humiliation ritual, and, I think they pretty much accomplished it. Right? He may or may not have to go to prison, but everybody knows 

Tootsie Rolls. They're bad for your teeth. Don't eat them, kids. Alright. So, I did not get much news on this topic this week because I'm not that interested in it, but we do need to put it in a time capsule because it is a serious event in American political and cultural history. Because like Jeffrey Epstein, Diddy, who has not yet committed suicide Diddy, allegedly, there's no Johns. There's only prostitutes. And it's like Ghislaine. 

Like, she's she's pimping for nobody, apparently, because there's no list. Or everybody on those lists are so well blackmailed by people who are still living, maybe even nation states. They dare not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of this topic. And you even got Cash Patel and Dan Bongino doing their eyes bug out kinda best charade of, like, oh, dude. We saw the tape. We saw the empty hallway, so therefore, no one could have gotten that room. So he killed himself beyond doubt. 

Okay. Alright. Well, anyway, Lionel is a radio personality from the, like, the nineteen seventies on, but he's also a lawyer. And he speaks very quickly, sometimes. Other times, he's just wearing a sweater and chilling. But in this one, he was breaking the news that the Diddy trial had concluded. That's the way to put it. Right? It concluded they had made decisions and racketeering and Rico and all that stuff that the feds flashed. You know, it's 

that's James Comey's daughter running that trial. So all the things they flashed, they couldn't prove none of it. Kids, none of those things. They couldn't make it stick. It's like he's he's got so much baby oil all over him. They couldn't make the charges stick, not not a single one of them. So, anyway, let's go to Lionel. He's gonna break the news to us, the hard news that, he might just be humiliated, and he could have a new album out next week. We don't know. We don't know. Will they Kanye him? We don't know. But let's go to Lionel, and let's find out a little bit more. 

Alright, my friends. There's nothing better that I love to say than I told you so, and I told you so. Sorta. Sorta. That man act stuff is just I think that was a thank you. I think that was a compromised verdict they said, ah, let's give him something. Man act. Apparently, the two women, Cassie and whoever the other one was, were apparently prostitutes because what he was found guilty of was two counts of of transporting 

women over state lines for prostitution. So guess what, Cassie? You're a prostitute. How do you like them apples? I told you this from the beginning. This wasn't racketeering. Racketeering didn't even find two predicate acts. Not even two. Arson at this and parking lots, and they did it was the most incredible thing in the world. They didn't find racketeer. Racketeering is the easiest case. 

It's big in theory. But two predicate acts? That's it? Nothing? Then you had this one juror who didn't speak English and didn't understand the case. I thought, oh. And from the beginning, I told you from the beginning, it's not that he's not a a that he's a good guy or whatever. He's a dirtbag, but that's not against the law. Justice has been served. 

Charge him with something. They could've charged him with filing or tampering the the, the the serial numbers on guns or some technical tax thing. That's what they did to get Al Capone. That's what you do. Who was it that came after this sex trafficking when when the victim made, what, ten what, twenty five? How much total do you think she got, Cassie? Thirty million 

dollars. Said she texted him, I like freak offs. Remain friends with him. Hell, he was still paying rent or whatever. It was a dog under those cases. Let me say this again. Listen to me carefully. Listen. Listen. Listen. Listen. What if they charged him with arson? You would say, arson's stupid. That's crazy. Yes. That is stupid. And the bottom line is simply this. You've got to find somebody guilty of what they did. 

It is axiomatic. If somebody if if he was if there was a federal, charge of drugging people, okay. If there was a charge of, oh, oh, another thing too is, Diddy could have filmed this. He could have said everybody now remember, presuming there are no women excuse me. Presuming there are no children, but but but he could have had people sign NDAs. He could have said, I 

am basically filming you. We're gonna upload this to Pornhub or whatever it is. They would say, okay. It would have been porn. Do you see what I'm saying? It would have been porn. Had they agreed to, had they signed this, those women would have done it. Are you kidding? They say, sure. You could've thrown a couple of bucks nominally. Another thing I've been saying by the way, I'm gonna be doing Sean, Atwood today at one. The thing which is the most important, the thing which is the most critical 

is and don't forget. Don't worry. I'll be out there, honey. If we have to I'll I'll I'll do that. We're going crazy right now. We're we're missus Dell is doing her thing. She's doing her Nancy Grace thing. I've got my I'm the lone wolf in this because people think that what I'm saying is that I like him or I admire him or what he did was okay. No. Absolutely not. It never was. 

I am a lawyer. And when you are charged with something in our country, you wanna be found guilty of what it is you're you're you're you're charged with. If your charge was speeding and when they they clocked you, you weren't speeding or the, radar gun wasn't certified or whatever it is, you are gonna say, that's not fair. 

That's not fair. You didn't you didn't prove your case. This was the biggest overkill anybody has ever seen, and I kept telling people. And people thought I was demented by by virtue of saying, what are you saying? Are you are you dude, it's terrible today. It was awful. And all and and please forgive me. I'm a little bit, excited about this because I knew it. And I love this system, and I love this country, and I love this. Even in federal court, those people said, the hell with you. Now people are gonna be are gonna be saying, do you think you think you think Diddy paid people off? Because Diddy was saying things like, don't worry. Namaste. 

Namaste. It's okay. Mama, don't worry. Little boy's gonna did he know? He didn't pay anybody off. Well, let me tell you something. Be very careful. I don't know who these people were, but Diddy is now a god. He has been elevated. He was kind of like a half ass. He is now bulletproof. He has got the Gotti effect. 

He is now he is at a level. Nobody. Shug Knight, none of these people. Everybody else is in jail. He walked. Take that, Jay z. Take that, Clive Davis. Take I am whoever it is out there. This is the baddest ass there was. He went he fought him. He did it, and he beat the government. He did it? See, this is something which is I mean, he is his provenance or his his status now in the biz is bigger than anything you can imagine. 

This is unbelievable. He's gonna be the biggest star, the biggest. He is a folk hero. He beat him. And, I mean, took on the government. I fought the law and the it was I fought authority. Authority always went anyway, I tried to go. I fought the law and the law one. No. This is wrong. I'm I'm getting the wrong song here. He fought the law and he won. This is the most incredible story there is. This goes to show you this is a great country we live in. Now had they charged him with the right thing? 

What would they have charged him with? He they they, put, drinks in, they they they they they loaded up drinks with some kind of GBH or whatever it was. Okay. There's no there's no federal statute for that. There's no federal murder statute. There's no federal there's no such thing as, like, murder murder one, murder two. It's always violation of civil rights. 

It's a different story. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm gonna tell you right now, and I'm gonna say this again and again and again and again and again. Our system won. Because in the old days, you could say, it's not that money talks. If he were Joe Blow, they would never have brought this charge. They would have never you've never never heard this charge. Never. See, that's the thing. People think, well, you know, the privilege. Privilege my ass. He spent how many how many months? How many when did this how long was he in in jail? 

Let me see something. Yeah. So let me see here. By the way, chat GPS says that I have but what was it my Bronx that my accent my what? My my Bronx cadence from from my being born in the Bronx is, like, what? Chad GPT. Come on, man. 

How long has did he been incarcerated pretrial? Let's see what we're doing is he is he has been incarcerated, searching the web. Tune in for the next episode of lying out trying to use the Internet. Go ahead. Pull it. His point was gonna be probably that did he spend time in jail, and they just let let him free. So the legal system works. If Comey's daughter runs a case into the ground 

and charges a celebrity with a bunch of stuff the government's not prepared to prove and hope that they can go on a fishing expedition and get something more interesting, or or maybe what they found was so interesting, they're like, we're just gonna roll this over into blackmail, so we gotta let them go. Throw them back out. He I mean, his dad was an inform like, he could be a an informant. His dad worked for Frank Lucas, which was working for the CIA to bring heroin into this country long, long time ago, and we don't have time to teach that history lesson tonight. But, yeah, there's a a saga still unfolding where he's more powerful now that he's been challenged and walked away. 

That's the Illuminati in Hollywood. And it's so interesting that this happened to coincide with this announcement just a few hours ago that there's nothing to see with Epstein stuff. You know? He he did not kill himself while he was in a cell with no means to do it, and there was no people that he was trafficking children to. So both cases have been closed, sealed, nothing to see here. And I think it really both of these go to show why I felt it was so important to put on the record that that documentary Imperium a couple weeks ago, okay, made you guys sit through it. I know it wasn't easy, but the hypothesis I had going into that was that 

the government governments all around the world primarily exist to cover up for the trafficking of children. It seemed because that's the whole thing of that movie. All ten parts of those episodes show how like countries all over the world when when the child trafficking reaches the top level, then the government marshals all of their resources to cover it up. And that was Belgium, the UK, Lithuania, the United States. Every single one of these cases proves that at the end of the day, the government only cares about covering up and protecting 

their people that that are involved in child sex trafficking. So we we saw it you saw it again right here. Just again tonight. So that's why I know that's a hard episode to watch. If you haven't seen it, go back and watch it. But it it just proves the point once again. Once again. Also, before we let Charlie go, my observation would be this. It was in this book let me fix the exposure here so you could actually see it. That looks too dramatic. Alright. The Hiram Key, pharaohs, Freemasons, and the discovery of the secret scrolls of Jesus. 

I'm pretty sure it's in this book that when I was reading about proto freemasonry before it was organized by I didn't I didn't I just noticed my camera was cutting me off, so I'm fixing it. When I read that book, I remember having the impression that freemasonry, before it was formalized by the British Empire, existed as a protection, how a safe house system for criminals. And they had certain rules, and their rules that you would get like, you would assume these people were criminals, so don't be criminal in our house, but we know you're gonna be criminal outside the house. So it almost seemed like a protection system. And that was one of the first conversation topics that Jason Burmas brought up to me back in, like, two thousand six was that the the Vatican was a pedophile protection network and that the pope was a baby rapist. And he helped to cover up for the baby rapists, and that's how he became pope or I think it was Ratzinger back in the day. And I checked it out. Like, there's a lot of veracity to those claims. 

Succinct and, you know, brief, like, the, brevity. Brevity is a soul of wit. Like, it might be overly brief for some people. He might be, like, condensing it too far, but there is a long, long history of not only secret societies, but organized religions that have prayed on young people because they have that trust, and they pretend to be the agents of God that are in human form that you must confess your sins to in some quiet box in the back of the I don't know. I'm not Catholic, but I've seen it in the movies. Right? And I think I think that's a little I don't know. 

I don't know about that. There's a lot of stuff that I would question. And all the rituals and pomp and circumstance that they've derived over the years to get your ten percent to make sure that they can continue to protect people and move the priests around. Anyway, long history about and then this isn't the episode. But my point for what Scott was saying about Imperium would be free masonic rituals, pomp, circumstance, iconography, symbology, architecture 

are prevalent across all the nation's governments. There are connections that are international. And if you look at all the flags, if you get a thing that has all the you know, they used to have posters when I was a kid that had all the flags on there, and I was like, oh, they're they're awfully similar. Almost like a central group is issuing flags to various countries and around and then you find out later, it was kinda like that when the United Nations had Great Britain and its forty two commonwealths that are all still with the queen on the money and stuff. So the UN was set up so great great Britain, the British Empire could have, like, forty votes to America's one vote. 

So it's almost like it was a rigged game not invented by Americans, but we got it in New York. It's international territory donated by the Rockefellers. It used to be a slaughterhouse district. So I guess it's all okay to give up our rights to the United Nations and go with agenda twenty one and go, you know, fetch for the WEF. Charlie, you gotta go, though. Let's let's, have you ever Has it really changed much since the slaughterhouse days? I mean, we are talking about the United Nations after that. Butchers of the the butchers of the Rockefeller Medical Establishment do wear white coats just like butchers. 

And my friend Molly likes to say that. I couldn't help but think during the Diddy trial about the role of the Boulay Society as well and what was going on. An accusation dropped by that guy who, shot up the Trump Hotel to get arrested and leave that tape in twenty nineteen. Oh. So do you wanna talk about, the accusation was, like, Diddy was in the black Illuminati, and now you've introduced it into chat GPT and click Genie's transcript. So go ahead and explain it. Yeah. Black secret society 

runs through the Hollywood network. Think of, like, the Tyler Perry types, you know, and and run-in I I believe in a free masonic sort of way. I I I I don't know if the relationship is, like a cousin, or or how this is viewed, but it is it's a it's a it's a you know, it's known in Hollywood by those on the inside that, that this is how you attain power. And, of course, the 

the requirements for entry and and to remain in good standing, I'm sure, are not the not the greatest. Maybe go against, sort of the the things that you would, want to do. But but as in any control grid, I mean, the few control the many. And, if this is related to it, it wouldn't surprise me. It feels very much like a limited hangout, you know, get him charged on some nonsense. Like like Lionel was saying, you could've, you could've 

gotten him for if you'd charged him correctly, you probably would have had a chance. Unless, of course, the plan all along was to botch it. And who's who who comes out of the the cover up school? None other than another Comey. I mean, it's like they're born to do it. So I I think all options are on the table, including an intentional bumbling of this case, that would not surprise me. Now what was the name of the, the Illuminati that was named by the guy who got arrested at the Trump Hotel for shooting it? Do you remember? Was it Brule? What was it? What was the 

it was like a French name that they had for It it it would be Boulet Society. Boulet. Boulet. Yeah. That would be that would be it. In your reference, have any connection to Prince Hall Freemasonry, which was created, back in the day here For, the Masonic fraternity was attracted to some free blacks, such as Bruce, Prince Hall Prince Hall because Freemasonry was founded upon the ideals of liberty, equality, and peace. So it was like a fraternal organization 

for emancipated slaves, allegedly. And, well, I mean, this, I mean, this Prince Hall starts before the civil war. But, those lodges do exist, and then, you know, if they had an upper level, a secret secret society, then you might get to that, boule level, especially if you do a big deal with, what was it, Diageo? Who who did he screw over in the the tequila deal or whatever? He made some enemies, 

and they did humiliate him. Charlie, where pea where can people check out your work and see your latest productions? I certainly hope they're incorporating activist post into their media diet. It's a great resource to find articles that we republish from brilliant journalists from around the world who see things in a very unusual way. They're, it's like getting your news from the future. And I encourage people to check out Natural Blaze as well. That's our alternative health site. Macroaggressions 

podcast keeps go going. We're almost at, five hundred and sixty episodes, and, you can catch it wherever podcasts are served. And, of course, Barnum World, the new Barnum World is, out on YouTube. It's for free. Go check out the mockumentary to end all documentaries by the guys who gave you Jones Plantation. You can check that out on Rumble as well. I think, Pitch Shoot, he's he's putting it everywhere. The the the deal was 

they raised money on Indiegogo for the film to be free made free to the public, and he is holding up his end of the bargain. So go check out Barnum World. Or you can just go to Clip Genie because we played it last week. Right? Yeah. I think we played it after you yeah. Because we we played it. It's in the record. Cool. Now everyone knows when I say a Barnum phrase, everybody knows what I mean when I'm talking about a Barnum phrase because we heard Charlie ask, what what's the dude's name? 

What's the actor's name? Oh, Natty Jones. Natty Jones. Natty Jones had to give a back big explanation, very colorful explanation with the the political clips that went all the way back to, like, FDR, that was in that section. Right? I mean, that was just it just kept going back and back and back and back. And I was like, oh, this is important election of our lifetime. This is the most important election of our lifetime. It always will be. Yeah. You can just use these statements. And it 

again, we're taking the power away from them. If you never knew that there was a name for for this sort of thinking or speaking public speaking, now you put a Barnum. You say that's a Barnum statement. Now every time you hear something similar, your your bell goes off in your head, and it takes the power away. So it's a great tool for desensitizing you and to disempower them by laughing at their absurdity and mocking them. They they if you wanna fight them with violence, they understand how to deal with that. They have the monopoly on violence as they say. But They don't get humor. If you want to defeat them with humor and you wanna marginalize and ridicule them by getting everybody to mock and laugh at them, they don't have a defense for that. So let's hit them in their soft underbelly, which is the the the fact that 

their behavior is laughable, so let's laugh at it. And let's, let's let's keep the, let's keep the the ridicule and the pressure consistent on these people. So The Barnum praise for having me. It's it's like a meme. It's it's always great to be back with you guys. I I really appreciate it. It's been, yeah, I had friend of the show, Tice, with me for the last week, so it's been, it's been and then Pueblo for Yeah. You've had a real roller coaster. So go get some shut eye and parachute out, and Scotty and I will work with Colby, and we'll get on the ground safely in a few hours probably. 

Thanks, Charlie. You next week. Peace out, man. I see you soon, Charlie. So I heard Charlie mention a limited hangout. And And I was gonna say, if you guys want some unlimited hangouts, you can definitely check us out next week because we got the great Whitney Webb coming on next week. So Oh, yeah. It's but that's a pretape. Pretape is Thursday. Yep. Yep. Yep. But but so we'll be airing that next Sunday nine, on the show. So Alright. Good. Good. Good. And, the the pre tape thing, that goes on sometimes because, you know, 

they might have parenting to do. Like, we they can't stay up all night and hang out. So pre tape is a core enough. Not hardcore enough. And many, many fine people have had to pre tape. Like, the future Adam Curry might have to pre tape. Yeah. I got a few you know, Scott Horton's gonna do a pre tape. I'm working on Horton. Fucking in a date. But, you know, it's we I get it. I get it. I get it too. So we're flexible. That's what we're saying. We're trying to bring you guys the best guests and not just the ones who stay up late Sunday nights Exactly. Which is, you know, sometimes how it worked in the past. Alright. So moving on, we have the concept 

that Lionel brought to the table about porn and the industry and the abuse and those sort of things. And then we also have another story in this week's news involving porn. Now it's not on purpose. We're not turning this show's format into something else, but this is the news. So the headline grabber is porn is funding genocide, and that's the thumbnail. So that grabs your attention. Then you wanna read the what's the title of the video? What is this really about? And the claim 

is, OnlyFans owner revealed as Apex top donor. It even rhymes. It's pretty good. This is I was wrong earlier. We have to make a correction. This is another Jimmy Dore clip. I can't help it that Kurt and Jimmy do cover stories that we would like to talk about here on the show, but we gotta watch them watch it before we can comment on it. And I do have clips from other creators out there. So hat tip to Kurt and Jimmy. They had the hat trick for this episode. I don't think we've had a hat trick like that before. So, 

at least it's not the beanie. Right, rumble chat people? Alright. Cool. Cool. We're on the same page. Let's go to Kirk and Jimmy. The Israeli, bombing of Gaza. You you think I'm kidding? I knew it. Let's watch this. The largest donor to APAC is a guy named Leonid Rudavinsky. He's the owner of OnlyFans. 

This needs to be understood. The people consuming pornographic content from OnlyFans are not only destroying themselves, but without even knowing, they're funding the genocide of women and children in Gaza, funding wars in the Middle East, and funding Israeli control of American congressmen and the control of the US president. People need to think about that before they go on that site. And and, so now just wait a second here. Are you seriously trying to say that the same country that is capable of trafficking American underage children to politicians 

to manipulate them also have anything to do with some sort of OnlyFans account? Yeah. I I would not sit here and stand for that were it not for the fact that I have a show to do. Well, it's the same as Pornhub's. They say it's owned by a rabbi, but that's not technically true. The rabbi is just one member of a board of something called the ethical group. No kidding. The ethical group. So here's bet you the ethical group, just like this guy, 

the money goes to it's a Mossad because Mossad helped make our spyware that America uses on its own citizens. Yeah. So while we're at we're already watching you jerk off. None of you have jerked off off camera in over twenty years unless you have access to Epstein's cell. That's a fact. So the people in OnlyFans, somebody goes, you know, why don't you let people just charge because we're watching them anyway. If you have Zillow, it's watching you shower. That's a fact. Yeah. No. I get it. I get how it works. 

So, there it is. Leonid Radvinsky is Jewish. His family immigrated from Odessa to Chicago, my hometown, when he when he was a child. He is known for being the owner of OnlyFans. Noice. Noice. So there you go. Oh, there's some real Dave Portnoy in his way. I bet his hero is probably Rabbi Schmooley. Right? The the dildo the kosher dildo salesman? Yeah. Why are they kosher, the dildos? Because they're in jars? 

Hey. Come see us on tour. We're gonna be in Toronto, Red Bank, New Jersey, Northampton, Massachusetts, Concord, New Hampshire, Oxnard War with Iran or what? I know that Trump said there was no more wars, but he also said Iran's kind of his whole past. You know what I mean? I mean, I obviously, I'm not personally going, but, you know, like, I'd be down to join the army if you didn't have to be homeless after. But, what God. Oh, I'm sorry. La Jolla, you guys love homeless people now? Because 

I'm pretty sure that La Jolla wanted their own two state solution because there's a little too many homeless people. Now you care about them because I could have sworn you walk by them like, ew, he doesn't have any Roth IRA. Get them off me. I get it. My girls have been into giving money to homeless people lately, which sucks because she owes me money and I gotta take it back, like wasn't hers to give. It is hilarious that Israel broke up every political coalition possible. 

People that were friends are enemies now. And but I'll just say this, I don't I think you can be against Israel and not be anti Semitic. That's what I think. Person Yeah. I I might not be the right guy because I also think it's not Islamophobic when I drew a picture of the prophet Mohammed sucking off a dude on the side of a mosque. But that's that's just me. I also think it's not racist to yell the n word. But listen, I and just because I think women shouldn't vote doesn't mean that I'm second by the way, sometimes I might do the Chinese I. That doesn't mean 

that doesn't mean that I'm okay. Dude, it is true. Right now, my Instagram like, if I go on Twitter especially, it is just Jews, Jews, Jews. Jews, Muslims, Jews. And that's just one porn account I follow. And you guys don't follow come sluts with back hair? You guys don't Middle Eastern come sluts with back hair? You guys don't 

follow that account? No? Okay. But but guys, I should tell you, I'm not really just I haven't read the bible or the Quran or the Jew Quran, but I think I could've worked this whole thing out. Because honestly, I actually know some Jewish people that worship the prophet Muhammad, believe it or not. Mainly the prophet part, but And 

also, I know a Muslim guy who does Jewish shit. He wears like the strings that they wear. Yeah, his was attached to a backpack. I don't know what that means. Yeah. I was actually circumcised by one of the rabbis who does it with his mouth. And they charge you more for that when you're not Jewish and in your thirties. But Kanye West, he was saying he thought black people are the real Jews, which like, that didn't even really make that much sense to me. Then I was with some of my black friends and I saw the way they tipped and I was like, okay. Alright. That's 

I a little bit. I think by the end of this joke, he's gonna no one's gonna be happy. But, especially Dave Portnoy. It does get you clicks on the internet talking Jew stuff. Posting about Israel is sort of like the bikini photo for men, I think. Like, women, you can get a lot of likes on your opinions, but you're never gonna get other likes like you did on that one bikini photo 

that your coworkers like a little too much, you know? Doug from accounting accidentally liked it at two AM and then had to remove it from seven months ago. Right? That's dudes on the internet being like, what are these Jews up to? Fucking start every war, this is fucking crazy. But if I get married, I want my wife to be Muslim because there's a lot of good shit in their book about obeying your husband. I've never worn a burka personally. Once I did go tanning naked with just the goggles and I assume it feels the exact opposite of that. 

Dude, it has been kind of wild. Like every protest is just like even like the ice protest, they're all just like low key Palestine protests also. It's funny because I I they have done, like, the no kings march. They did it near my house, which is, like, kind of almost, like, organized by, like, Upper West Side Jewish ladies. Right? They don't love the direction the protest has been going in. It's like black lives matter. They're like, yeah. They're like, trans lives matter. Trump's the worst. Then they're like, river to the sea. And they're like, I don't know. Yeah. Maybe like back it up a little. 

Death to Israel. They're like, stay on the Trump thing. The guy's orange, you know. He's fucking orange. Look at him, you know. And And they're kind of like, we did your Black Lives Matter thing, you should do our Jewish thing. And they're like, nah, you guys are just richer white people. I'm like, what the fuck? And I'm just like, welcome to the dark side. Every Like, Greta Thunberg's in Palestine right now. I'm like, oh is she trying to put solar panels on the Iron Dome? 

And she's like, no. She fights for Palestine now. Climate change was always the most annoying of the protesters. They were like throwing suit, blocking roads. They they didn't show their tits. I appreciated that part of it, which is nice. It's not effective. Right? There's nothing less effective than women being like, you better stop doing this or you're gonna see some tits. Like, you know. Every guy's just like, oh no, I littered again. I 

guess, give me my punishment, I guess. Obviously, if Greta Thunberg showed her tits, I'd be like, alright. It's fine. Yeah. You're right. Alright. Wrap her up. Can we get a burqa on her? She's, you know, if you want people to stop stuff, you can't put tits at a rally. You need dicks at the rally. Like, if you were driving to work and it's just a hundred guys helicopter, they're dicks and they're like, stop using oil. You're like, I'll take the bus. Like, whatever 

like, whatever you guys fucking need. That's what gay guys did. They're like, you better give us gay marriage or there's gonna be fucking more of this. And then they got gay marriage and they're like, gotta be honest. We really like doing this. I Kid stop won't stop. So the mega like with mega right now, like the two options are like, one side's like, we fucking love Israel, ride or die, and the other side, like, really? Doesn't like Israel, like, not at all. And they're all fighting and it's funny because like most Republican commentators and politicians are like low key catty bitches, you know. 

Tucker Carlson, he's a kooky guy. I just fucking and Tucker Carlson is the ultimate gossip queen. This is how he talks about someone. He'll just be, like, he's, like, I mean, he's a good guy. He's a bloodthirsty monster, but I I I've met him personally. We actually summered in the Hamptons together. I don't know why he wants all our children to die in a pool of blood but other than that I feel like he's a pretty decent guy. I find Lindsey Graham to be a nice enough person. We've done dinner together. Every time I see see him, he's covered in men's cum. I don't know why that is. I'm not saying that he's hiding something. He seems to be caked in semen twenty four seven. Is there some 

also, do you guys not find it insane insane that we're finding out about war announcements from True Social? Thank you for your attention on this matter. Like, he writes a memo like an annoying neighbor that's telling you to clean up your dog shit. Like, you know? Thank you for attention on this matter. Choose him. And by the way, the real victim is me who had to rewrite my jokes four minutes before coming on stage. That's I'm I'm just 

saying. Hey. If you even split up, they're like Christians. Kind of. Is there any Christians here tonight? Because Christians are split a little too. Right? Because some Christians are like, God wants us to do Israel stuff. That's just like dying wish, I think, what they said. And then are you one of those do you think that that that's a Christian thing that you have to kinda support Israel sort of thing? No? I'm No. Some people Yeah. But some people do. I I think that it's funny when people are like, you know, God wants this. I'm like, God stopped watching a long fucking time ago. 

God is only focused on making sure the right rapper gets the right award. That's like, his whole he's very focused on the BET Awards. That's, like, his whole thing. It's very important to him that the right guy gets the award. Right now, in the last two years, they had a three hundred percent increase in people that said they were born in the wrong body. If that's not God quiet quitting, I don't know what is. That he's not even putting people in the right body anymore. Like, he They're like, it's a girl fucking put the big brain in the girl or whatever. I don't even give a shit. 

Throw a fucking hog on there. I don't give a fuck. He's playing video games. He used to do miracles. Now what's he doing? Jack shit. His wife's probably like, God, remember when you used to split the sea, you know? And he's like, yeah, you knew you used to suck me off, Carol. So we all used to do a lot of things. Also, we can't have miracles when everyone has phones because if right now they were like, this miracle, this tiny guy David took down this monster Goliath, you'd be on your phone in two seconds. Like, yeah, David's been training with Nate Diaz, so this is kinda nothing. 

Goliath is retarded, so there's I mean, and also we know David's side of the story. If that happened in two thousand twenty five, Goliath would get to go on Tucker Carlson's new show and tell his side of the fucking story. Yet Goliath would be like, Tucker, I was minding my business until this Jew David started fucking I'm not saying David's a bad guy. I like him as a guy. He just And also I sucked off Obama is what Goliath would say. 

That's what Goliath would say. Listen, the real victim of this whole war will be after it's all said and done because Muslims sort of have to lose twice because they have to lose the war and then after that when they come to America as refugees, they have to watch their daughters turn into bisexual sluts and is there anything you can think of a worse punishment than a Muslim guy's daughter being like, I'm non binary now. He's like, 

oh. You can't even honor a killer. Christian supporting Israel because of politics or because they think God will curse them if they don't. Because that's what millions of people believe, literally. So today, we're gonna dig into one of the most powerful forces in American politics that barely anybody understands, Christian Zionism. 

So how did a few Bible footnotes change the way that millions of Americans vote, pray, and even push for war. Alright. So this is gonna be a deep dive. You're about to learn how a mysterious Bible from nineteen o nine rewired modern Christianity and may have changed US foreign policy forever. So let's get right into it. It all starts with a man named Cyrus I Scofield, a failed lawyer, shady preacher, and former drunk who somehow became one of the most influential theologians in American history. So in nineteen o nine, he published something called the 

Scofield Reference Bible. So on the surface, it looked like any other King James Bible, but it came with a twist. It came with footnotes, so interpretations, and there were thousands of them. Scofield added his own commentary right there on the same page as the scripture, and these weren't just helpful tips or definitions. These footnotes completely changed how people read the Bible. Scofield introduced a system called dispensationalism. Basically, 

he divided history into seven eras or dispensations and argued that God had two separate plans, one plan for the church and one for Israel. Now to most readers, at this time, this was a new idea, but in Scofield's world, Israel wasn't just a thing of the past. It was the centerpiece of the future. Prophecies in the Old Testament weren't metaphors. They were literal predictions according to Scofield, and they were coming true in real time. And that's when things got political. 

One verse Scofield highlighted, Genesis twelve dash three became the cornerstone of Christian Zionism. It says, quote, I will bless those who bless you, and I will curse those who curse you. So that sounds nice. Right? And that became interpreted as where the you was Israel. As in if you bless Israel, I'll bless you. If you curse Israel, I'll curse you. And that's because this verse is being spoken to Abraham in the bible. So Scofield interpreted this as a modern day command. If you want God to bless America, you better bless Israel. And if you don't, well, good luck. 

So this idea took off like a wildfire and not because Schofield forced it, but because it embedded itself inside the faith and infrastructure of millions of people. His Bible became widely popular, especially in Bible colleges, in seminars, and in churches across the South and Midwest America. For many Christians, the Bible wasn't just a spiritual book anymore. It was a political road map. Now here's where it gets really 

intense. So Scofield Bible didn't actually change the scripture. It changed how people read it. And in doing so, it made support for the state of Israel feel like a religious obligation. So that's why you see people like Ted Cruz on Tucker Carlson the other day saying, like, I went to the senate with wanting the idea wanting to be the main proponent for Israel. We are commanded to support Israel, and we're What does that mean? So it didn't matter what policies Israel had. It didn't matter if they were right or wrong. If they were Israel, they were God's chosen. 

Now here's another thing. So there are a bunch of online rumors that say Scofield was secretly funded by Zionist bankers. Yes. The Rothschilds. But, there's not a lot of evidence to show that. I I mean, believe me, it's juicy. I wanted to be the case, but there's not a lot of evidence to show that. So it gets even weirder when you look at who inspired Scofield, this guy named John Nelson Darby. So Darby was the original architect of dispensationalism, and its background is, downright chilling. 

So Darby's family owned something called Leap Castle in Ireland, and it was considered the most haunted castle in the world. There's an estimated one hundred and fifty dead bodies found in its cellar, and witnesses claimed that satanic rituals were performed right there, and seances were conducted by his relative, Mildred Darby, a gothic novelist who wrote about a demonic force that she called the elemental. So while Scofield was promoting this future centered Israel obsession of his, it wasn't just theology. 

There might have been a deep, dark spiritual influence behind all this, but that's speculative. Now think about this. When Scofield released his bible in nineteen o nine, Israel didn't even exist. But just eight years later, something remarkable happens. The British government issued the Balfour declaration, a formal statement supporting the establishment of a national home for the Jewish people in Palestine. Now this wasn't just a political move. It was deeply influenced by Christian Zionists inside the British elite, 

including lord Arthur Balfour himself who held dispensationalist beliefs similar to Scofield. Now even more curious, the letter was addressed to lord Walter Rothschild. Literally, on the figurehead of the letter, it says, dear lord Rothschild. So, obviously, he's a key figure in the Zionist movement, and this fuels all kinds of conspiracy theories about elite coordination between Zionists, financiers, and western governments. But this also came during World War one as Britain was trying to secure influence in the Middle East. While the Ottoman Empire was collapsing, some argue that this declaration was part of a spiritual 

crusade, part of an imperial chess move. Because in the early nineteen hundreds, great Britain was actively looking at the Ottoman Empire's collapse and trying to speculate and divvy up its land proactively, and that's what they ended up doing with the Sykes Picot agreement after. So Palestine was seen as a strategic prize militarily and economically and religiously, therefore, promoting Christian support for Jewish resettlement aligned with British imperial interests in creating a western aligned buffer right there in the region in the Middle East. So many British political and academic elites were sympathetic to the Zionist cause, obviously, including lord Arthur Belfort, the Rothschilds, and members of the roundtable group. 

But here's the thing. The support was not always religious. It was often strategic. They saw Jews as a potentially loyal population in a vital region and in an unstable region that just faced a collapse of a multi hundred year empire. So they hoped to appeal to the American protestant support for Zionism as leverage in geopolitics, and they widely published Scofield's bible and probably saw this as a soft power move influencing American opinion through 

theological channels. So the Scofield reference Bible came out nineteen o nine, Balfour declaration in nineteen seventeen. A little bit weird timing. During this gap, Zionism was gaining traction amongst British policymakers and intellectuals promoting pro Zionist theological views amongst Americans, and they thought this would help generate grassroots Christian support for Britain's coming actions in Palestine. So here's the question. Could Oxford University press have political or ideological motivations, not just commercial motivations? 

I mean, think about it. There's no direct evidence of collusion, but consider this. A British publisher printing a Bible that promotes unconditional support for Jews returning to Palestine at a time when Britain is preparing to take control of Palestine itself. And eight years before, it publicly endorses Zionism through the Balfour declaration. So that's either one of the most profitable coincidences in publishing history or part of a larger pattern of ideological and imperial alignment. 

It's almost like prophecy was getting policy backup. Now this timing right here is just too strange for some researchers to ignore. So the Scofield Bible predicted that the Jews would return to Palestine in a time when it sounded absolutely absurd. Then within one decade, global superpowers started laying the groundwork to make that a reality. That's why some say the Bible didn't just forecast history. It shaped it. And, yes, his entire prophetic framework was built around the idea that the Jews would return to the holy land, that a nation of of Israel would rise again, 

that a third temple would be rebuilt to most people that seemed absolutely absurd at the time. But after World War two, everything changed. So the Holocaust shocked the entire world, and there was sympathy for the Jewish people, and it exploded. So in nineteen forty eight, Israel was officially declared a nation. And for evangelicals raised on the Scofield Bible, this wasn't just history. It was prophecy fulfilled. Christian Zionism exploded post World War two. The generational impact was enormous. Religious education started to shape the US foreign policy. Kids were taught that America had a divine obligation to defend Israel or face divine punishment. 

So there's a quote from the bible Hebrew eleven sixteen and says, but now they desire a better country that is in heavenly where for God is not ashamed to be called their God for their hath prepared for them a city. And Revelation two dash nine drops a bombshell that conspiracy theorists definitely latch onto. It says, quote, I know the slander of those who they say are Jews and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan, end quote. So passages like that are often interpreted by fringe groups as suggesting that they are imposters within the modern Zionism 

and fueling suspicions that Christian Zionists are supporting something that they don't fully understand. Now that's why I don't like, leaping to conclusions with these bible verses, but then came the cold war and America needed allies in the Middle East. And Israel, a democratic western alliance state, fit that bill. So presidents began using terms like Judeo Christian values, in God we trust, and Israel became more than just a country. It became a symbol of moral clarity in a chaotic world. So by nineteen sixty seven, the sixty day war of Israel's military, 

they were victorious and was being talked about in church. She was like, it was a miracle. Bestselling books like the last great planet Earth connected every news headline to biblical prophecy. And suddenly, Christians weren't just interested in Israel. They're obsessed. By the nineteen eighties, this obsession got political. Televangelists like Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson weren't just preaching salvation. They were preaching foreign policy. So groups like the moral majority turned 

pro Israel theology into a Republican voting block. Evangelicals began to see Israel as God's timepiece. Every move the country made was seen as part of the countdown to the second coming. Here's the kicker. This belief system wasn't driven by Jews. It was driven by Christians. Christian Zionists now outnumber Jewish Zionists by tens of millions, and that's why politicians are terrified of them. So they organize massive rallies, pressure lawmakers, and fund trips to Israel for American politicians. 

Evangelical leaders like pastor John Hagee say things like, quote, the day America turns its back on Israel is the day God turns his back on America, end quote. So if you're hearing that every day of your life starting in Sunday school when you're a little kid, it's gonna have an impact on you. So this is why presidential candidates fall over themselves to prove how pro Israel they are. It's not about Jewish voters. It's about Christian voters. Because here's the math. Evangelicals, they make up about twenty five to thirty percent of the US population. 

Jews, they just make up two percent. So if you're a politician in a red state especially or swing state district, who are you more worried about upsetting? Exactly. Christian Zionists aren't just part of the Israel lobby. According to some experts, they are the Israel lobby, and their loyalty, it's not to a party. It's to the prophecy. And this is what makes the Christian Zionist movement so powerful and so unique. It's not about logic. It's not even about geopolitics. It's about destiny. They're pursuing something. And that brings us to the uncomfortable 

part. Christian Zionism is often the supporter of the most hard line Israel policies, things that even many Israeli Jews oppose. They back settlement expansion. They support total Israeli control over Jerusalem. They even oppose peace talks. They believe the end times require conflict in the Holy Land. It's a belief system that's not only political, it's apocalyptic. And here's where things get especially controversial. In their book, the Israel lobby and US foreign policy, authors John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt argue that pro Israel advocacy, especially from Christian Zionism and neoconservatives, played a major role in dragging the US into the Iraq war. 

Now think about that. Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Faith, Richard Perle, all were key architects of the war. All had ties to pro Israel think tanks and all pushed hard for regime change in Iraq. Even though Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction and no link to nine eleven, in two thousand two, Benjamin Netanyahu testified before congress saying, quote, if you take out Saddam, Saddam's regime, I guarantee you that it will have enormous positive reverberations on the region. And look at that. Not so much, Bibi. What it did do was destabilize the region, 

kill hundreds of thousands of people, and fuel a generation of terrorism. And yet many Christian Zionists supported it because they believed in it. It was part of a divine plan. Same playbook is being used with Iran today. Even when the US intelligence found that Iran had halted its nuclear weapons program, Christian Zionists and groups like APEC kept pushing for sanctions, threats, and military action, and now they got their wish. Diplomacy is off the table. And in fact, when Colin Powell suggested talking to Iran back in the day, he was immediately attacked by pro Israel voices in Washington. 

Speaking of AIPAC, let's talk about the elephant in the room. AIPAC is one of the most powerful lobbying groups in the country and spends millions of dollars influencing congress, shaping policy and backing candidates. Here's the twist. APEC is not registered as a foreign agent. Very strange. So under US law, groups lobbying for foreign governments are supposed to register with the Department of Justice and disclose their activities. APAC avoids this by claiming it doesn't officially represent Israel. 

But behind the scenes, it works closely with the Israeli diplomats, pushes Israeli talking points, and ensures that Congress stays in line with Israeli interests. A former congressional aide once said, we can count on well over half of the house, like, two fifty to three hundred members to do reflexively whatever APAC wants. Now let that sink in. And yet because APAC is treated as a domestic organization, it escapes transparency and any type of scrutiny, and other foreign lobbies would face 

strong, strong opposition if they were in this position. But this is how the machine works. Theology becomes politics. Politics becomes policy. Policy becomes war. And behind it all, a belief system that began with one man, one bible, and a few well placed footnotes. So where does this leave us? Well, here's the irony. Mancherst and Zionists support Israel not because they love Jews, but because they believe Jews play a role in the end times. So in that vision, Jews rebuild the temple, fight the final war, and, well, 

eventually convert or perish. To some Jewish critics, that's not support. That's exploitation. Younger evangelicals are starting to question the theology. Some ask whether uncritical support for any nation, no matter what, is really Christian like. Others point to humanitarian concerns like Palestinian suffering and the ethics of, perpetual war, but the legacy of Schofield remains. He didn't change the Bible. He changed how people read it. That's a powerful thing. In doing so, he helped create one of the most politically influential religious movements in modern American history. No. For in modern world history. 

So next time you wonder why American politicians trip over themselves to back Israel, Remember, it's not always about oil or strategy or even democracy or even, you know, rich people. Sometimes it's just because someone read the footnotes. I was completely factual with everything I just said to you. Now there is a side of this where we could be speculative because there is a lot of unanswered questions, and I'm gonna do, like, a three or four hour video with Connor about this because we were talking about this a lot. We're gonna do a a podcast style thing, but I deeply am deeply curious what compelled the Oxford Publishing House to, 

you know, push that and distribute it so hard, and what encouraged American Christian preachers to widely adopt the Scofield Bible and widely interpret it the way that everybody else is interpreting it. Why was it so easy to embed that idea into people? So it's, like, not too recent of a thing that you have planted the seed in people's heads and look at the monster that became. I don't know. Who knows? Like, it people might criticize me for making this video saying, like, oh, you're you're saying, you're criticizing Jewish things, this and that, whatever. Like, I'm not criticizing Jewish things. I'm criticizing the freaking Christians. Like, you know, people attribute all this power 

to Jewish people in the Jewish lobby, but, I mean, look at what I just said. It's it's not even necessarily that. It's the thirty million Christians that are just, you know, whatever Israel wants all the time no matter what. I mean, that's probably gonna bring some negative attention to the wrong people. So I think the main takeaway of this video is that Christians might be interpreting this thing, though. I mean, they probably are interpreting this thing wrong way, so they might have this fundamentally flawed idea of how they should treat Israel. Like, Ted Cruz going on Tucker last week and saying, like, oh, yeah. I got into the senate because I was just so passionate about being, being, like, the biggest proponent of Israel in the US in the US senate. Like like, what the hell does that mean, Ted Cruz? How about the freaking cost of living? 

How about the drug epidemic in America? Like, what the what does that mean you you entered the senate to become the biggest proponent of Israel? What the hell does that do for the American citizens? But it's the American citizens' fault because thirty percent are evangelical Christian, and they're, you know, just blindly Israel stuff no matter what. So just like I said in last week's video, I wasn't criticizing Israel. I was criticizing their president, Bibi Netanyahu. I think the people of Israel hate Bibi Netanyahu. And in this situation too, like, it's like anger gets misdirected at the wrong person a lot of the time. So don't make it a a Jewish, non Jewish thing. Make it a blind, 

devout, brainwashing thing where Christians got a little bit carried away with the whole Israel no matter what thing. Because, you know, you got a crazy president for Israel every once in a while, and he wants to go to war with everybody. And then the Christian bloc backs him, then the Republican bloc backs him, and then, everybody's pissed off that we're in war. So it's, something to be much much more conscious of, especially when we're possibly gonna be engaged with something with Iran unless, that starts to deescalate. So if you wanna know more about this topic or these type of topics, I got the Netanyahu video I did last week about why I think he's using foreign policy to evade jail. And then, also, I have this whole Rothschild series here. I call the men who broke America. 

Probably gonna do part six pretty soon on that. It's five parts so far. And, yeah, we're we started with the origin of central banking with the Rothschilds. It got all the way got all the way up to the Federal Reserve. But Hamas is shooting them. You'd think with everybody there that has a camera, they would at least show us a bunch of videos of IDF people shooting civilians. But what they're showing us is Hamas shooting civilians and then them saying, this is the IDF. So you think Hamas is killing So so we agree that somebody's killing people when they go to aid. You think that's Hamas? Oh, a hundred percent, I believe it's Hamas. A hundred percent. There's no doubt about it because I know too many people that are boots on the ground in Gaza right now, and they're like, look. What is being said is a lie. Now I told the government of Israel when I sat down with a number of them, I said, look. You guys are losing the social media battle. You're losing it because the young people do not believe it because what they see is all of this Hamas propaganda. Hamas is a huge propagandist machine. You don't think Israel has more powerful propaganda than Hamas? No. Absolutely not. Not 

absolutely not. No. I don't think they have. I don't think they're putting the money Oh, oh, I know. I know. I actually I forgot about the, Hamas American Super PAC that buys all of our congress. I want them shut down. I want them silenced. I want them muted. I think they are horrible for our society. Alright. I've got limited time with pastor lock here, but which by the way, you you broke this news to me, and I think they did the entire Infowars audience how your house got shot up. That's totally insane. So we may have time to deal with that, maybe not today. 

Here's here's here's kind of my takeaway, and I'd like to get your response to this. Because I talk one person I talk to a lot about this is is my dad. Yeah. And he was he really enjoyed your your segment earlier today. He was he was messing me about how much I can learn from you, and I was just being stubborn about it. What what I think what I think is happening here and I think last night, there was a debate between Dinesh D'Souza and Nick Fuentes. Mhmm. What I think is happening here is that we have generational lines that we're we're running into on the right, and we have younger generation conservatives, 

older generation conservatives, and our our belief system, our experience system is just totally different, and it and it results in us looking at different policy issues. So when I hear when I hear the Israel debate that's going on, here's my frustration. I think the younger generation's frustration is, it's like, here we are talking about a foreign country again. I grew up in a city where I I was literally my first experience going downtown, homeless, degradation, decaying infrastructure, poverty, crime. 

And I'm just like, I'm I'm sick of hearing about a foreign country, whether it's Ukraine, whether it's Israel, and then it doesn't help when we hear things like, oh, it's your biblical duty to support Israel. So I think that, you know, from the younger generation's perspective, do you think that you can even change our minds? I mean, I'll tell you, I don't think you can. Right. I I don't know if it's all about changing your minds, but as you know, the media has so lied. People don't understand what really is going on in Israel, Gaza with the, you know, the Houthis, whatever. They've been so lied to, and TikTok has done such a a good or poor job, however you wanna look at it, of propagating a false narrative 

that the gap is almost too big to bridge at this point. It's a huge view is the false narrative? Well, I mean, obviously, the number of people, first of all, that live in Gaza has been skewed. We get those numbers from Hamas because So you think it's less than a million? Yeah. Well, it's one point five million, but they say two point two million. Okay. But, you know, the more people they say they have, then obviously, the more money they get from other governments and from the UN and things like that. And then all the death tolls are strictly coming from Hamas. Listen. When the wolf gets to tell the story, the sheep and the shepherd are always the bad guys. How many do you think have died? Because the up the 

fifty thousand. Well, the low number is actually about forty thousand. If it's been fifty look. I'm against any civilian, any child, any innocent person that gets caught in the crosshairs. What people don't recognize is Israel sends out leaflets, flyers by the tens of thousands for several days, and this is where we're gonna bomb. This is how long it's going to happen. Please get out of these areas. And people don't understand that Hamas are using these people as shields. They will not let them out. They are slaves to the to the government, basically, that they have, you know, enacted, that they have voted in. And Israel's like, look. They're the only ones that are really feeding them. It was a beautiful moment. Now it gave them a black eye, but it was a beautiful moment when Israel pulled back the aid. They didn't do that to starve people. There's no starvation going on in Gaza. They did that to prove that Hamas has millions of pounds of aid that's already there that they're not going to use to feed their own people. And so it was this moment where the media spun in and said, oh, look. They're starving the Gazans, but the Gazans begin to realize, no. We have millions of pounds of food that our own people are not even using to feed us with. And everybody's like, well, you know, Israel won't take them, and they've got a border wall. Egypt has one that's ten times bigger than Israel. Well, I'd say the whole world has abandoned that entire region. Yes. I don't think I don't think they're interested in Israel and Palestine at this point. You know, here's here's my interpretation. Here's what I hear. And, again, I I don't like making any blanket statements. Sure. But just for the sake of this short conversation, 

I'll speak in generalities. What I'm hearing is it it it sounds to me like you're getting a different transmission than what I'm getting. I'm getting a transmission that not only are Gaza starving Yeah. They're getting shot when they go to get aid. And there's videos that I see that that prove that. I'm also getting in in the transmission that Israel was basically just carpet bombing the whole thing because they don't wanna send people in on the ground, because they don't wanna go into the tunnels and get blown up. They don't wanna risk the IDF's lives, so they just figure blow it all up, go and clear out the rubble, and that's how they can deal with Hamas. 

And so it just seems like we're getting totally different transmissions. And so when when I hear something like that, I'm like, that sounds like corporate media propaganda that has been fed to older generations for their entire lives versus the transmission I'm getting is from social media and and videos. And so it's like we're getting two totally different transmissions. Right? Yeah. Well, we're definitely getting a lot of different transmissions from social media and all of that because people aren't actually there. None of these people that are doing these videos and and the ones where the people are, there's been so much just debunked. Right? There are people getting shot to get aid, but Hamas is shooting them. You'd think with everybody there that has a camera, they would at least show us a bunch of videos of IDF people shooting civilians. But what they're showing us is Hamas shooting civilians and then them saying, this is the IDF. So you're saying Hamas is killing so so we agree that somebody's killing people when they go to aid. You think that's Hamas? Oh, a hundred percent, I believe it's Hamas. A hundred percent. There's no doubt about it because I know too many people that are boots on the ground in Gaza right now, and they're like, look. What is being said is a lie. Now I told the government of Israel when I sat down with a number of them, I said, look. You guys are losing the social media battle. You're losing it because the young people do not believe it because what they see is all of this Hamas propaganda. Hamas is a huge propagandist machine. You don't think Israel has more powerful propaganda than Hamas? Oh, absolutely not. No. 

Absolutely not. No. I don't think they have I don't think they're putting the money Oh, oh, I know. I know. Propaganda. I actually I forgot about the, Hamas American Super PAC that buys all of our congress. The it's not the Hamas Hamas American Super PAC, but there's no doubt that the Islamic regime is putting more money into the propaganda of the videos than Israel. Because Israel's not trying to fight from a social media standpoint. They're trying to fight the ground game. I would. I think a lot of things get misinterpreted, and, you know, I I saw the comments. And I guess this is how you ended up coming in and and doing the show with Alex today too when, you were speaking at a conference about Candace and everything. And I and I think that all these different dissenting voices kinda get lumped into one Mhmm. Whether it's Candace or Fuentes or even Alex at times or myself or others. And I think there's a lot of different things here. 

Like, I don't wanna involve with any of them, honestly. I I I'm sick of Israel. I'm sick of the Palestinians. I'm sick of all of them. I got my own problems in my country. I've grown up in a country where every metropolitan area is decaying. Yeah. I see our money just being shipped overseas without any resistance, but we can't even get a tax cut passed. So So it's like this is where my frustration comes from. I think this is where the younger generation frustration comes from. But even if you wanna get in to the Israel issue, you know, I think there's fundamental questions where even we may have a difference, like, who are the Jews? Right. 

Well, the Jews are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, a hundred percent. Me and Alex even talked about it. People are like, well, you know, we just believe they're fake Jews. It just doesn't work that way because here's one of the reasons that the the chasm between what we believe cannot be narrowed, especially in thirty minutes, Because I'm gonna come solely from a theological standpoint, and you're gonna see it solely from a either media infused or A political point. I would say a political standpoint. Which is fine, which I understand. But I'm gonna see things totally different because, obviously, I think we gotta be America first. But I also understand the fact that God says that America will be blessed if we do stand with to some great degree. This is now see, this is where I think we we come into an issue because 

I I from my perspective, and I don't know you may disagree, but it seems to me on the right wing, especially with electing Donald Trump twice, we all agree that America is heading in the wrong direction. I think we all agree that. So so how can we claim that we've been blessed for supporting Israel all these years when clearly America has suffered since we've been supporting Israel? Because we've had some lousy leadership. No doubt about that. But But they all supported Israel? As far as the politics all supported Israel. Every single one of them. They said they did. Name a president that didn't go and kiss the Wailing Wall. 

Joe Biden was not very, friendly towards the Jewish people. He would have done everything he could. That wasn't the question. And and what's that? Name a president that didn't kiss the Wailing Wall. Oh, I I have no idea on who didn't did or did not kiss the Wailing Wall. JFK. Only one. Okay. We all know what happened to him. Yeah. Absolutely. So I'm just saying there is no proof to say that us supporting Israel has blessed the country. I don't believe that. I I think that's great. We are the mo we are the economic superpower of the world as far as cities better than the cities in the gulf nation states? Because we have bad leadership. That's not an issue. Because our leadership puts Israel first. I don't believe that. No. It's not true. But this is what you're arguing. You're saying we because we support Israel, it's blessed America, but now you're saying America's not blessed because of our bad leadership that supports America. Oh, America's blessed. So there's no way around that. We're a superpower, 

you know, politically. We're a superpower economically. We're a superpower militarily, but I'm telling you, we would be just like any other normal nation had we not stood and had an alliance with them for all of these years. Look at all the other nations that have stood against Israel. It hasn't boded very well for them. We just know how the end looks, and the end looks every nation. Zechariah twelve four to twelve nine says, every nation that fights against Israel, the Bible says, it's a very graphic, God will burn their eyes out. God is going to bring every nation that fights Israel, and it does not stand for the covenant of the Jewish people, not their government. Right? God's not in a covenant with Netanyahu and the government of Israel. He's in a covenant with the people of Israel, and we have a biblical justification 

to stand with them, not to broad stroke all the bad decisions and the wars and the things that come to the table, to stand with the people in general. That's why we have a hard time generationally making the connection because Go ahead. They are gonna look at it strictly political, and I'm gonna look at it strictly I would like to look at it strictly in a geographical sense. Are we allowed to do that, Scott? Absolutely. Geography. Some people from Eastern Europe came up with a plan. They weren't even Torah following, 

religious people. They were atheist, socialist, communists, like Moses Hess, the father of utopian socialism, who said he would use secret societies. I got a secret society book here talking about the Freemasons and how, they amalgamated into these various agendas. So there's, like, any number of points. And I'm sorry that he doesn't understand geography. He spent too much time in theology, but I can't buy that argument. I'm glad that Shroyer pushed back 

and, you know, chose to question it. And if you've been paying attention for the past, I don't know, half hour, and you learned about the Scofield Bible, and you've paid attention maybe in this show before and picked up a few inconvenient facts to that narrative, you know, it's fine for him to believe that. But when there's hundreds of millions of people who believe that and then take our taxpayer dollars and do the foreign incursions that JFK would not agree with, I think it needs to be spoken out against. While we still have free speech to speak out against such things, they're, you know, making such commentary illegal all over the planet all the time. 

Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. And and, you know, that that in that interview, he goes on to make that exact point that all the people there are Eastern European Eastern European atheists and even go so far. He he he did his homework. He was prepared. He sits there and reads off all of the, birth names of all the prime ministers of Netanyahu. No problem. Now they're all Eastern European, including Netanyahu. So he throws that at him too. So Owen did a freaking great job. I watched both of the interviews, the one with Alex, and Alex just kinda goes along with it. I was, you know, he didn't really push back at all on anything. Was that in fact Alex isn't in a position to push back anymore I know. I know. Right now. Or right now at least. But but I I get it. But, like, at the same time, Schroyer, like, did such a good job in that interview for sure. And, I will say this too. So that guy if you don't know pastor Greg Locke, that's who that is. I've mentioned this on the show before, I don't know, maybe a year ago or so, but I did go to his church. I went and checked out his church service because 

I heard he's this, like, mega anti woke pastor that the left hates, and there's always all these attempts on his life and all this stuff. And so I was like, well, I gotta go check this guy out. This is gonna be awesome. And I literally walked in to the church. And, of course, he was really good on COVID. He never shut down all this stuff. So I was like, oh, this guy. I love this guy. So I walked in. Literally, the whole building the whole building, there was Israeli flags everywhere from the state of Israel, not like you know, not just some, like, you know, generic. Dollar store Israeli flags. Yeah. Not not just not like, you know, Jewish symbolism or anything. No. It's like the state of Israel flag everywhere. Okay? And there wasn't a single American flag in the whole place. 

One. Now there was armed Is that why America is in distress maybe? I'm Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. And and there was there was armed guards everywhere, AR fifteens and full tactical gear everywhere. And on their chest plate was a patch that was the Israeli flag. On the patch of the armed guards standing guard in the building. I didn't talk to any of them. I don't know if they were IDF soldiers or had Israeli accents, but that's who was guarding it. And I was Well, they don't work on Saturday, but they are free to guard Christian Zionist on Sundays. Exactly. And and and exactly. And and then I was taking some pictures, and this is just crazy. Like, anybody that is Christian, like, you'd look at this and you'd be like, 

what is this? So this is this is in their, congregation. This is the tub where they were gonna baptize people. Wow. And you're getting baptized under the flag of the state of Israel. This is That's interesting. Now who somebody talked about this the flag of Israel with Alex this week, I'm pretty sure, because he was saying, you know, it's two triangles. Well, it comes from fertility worship. It's a male and female in sexual union. 

That's what that star represents historically. But but quick before I lose this thought, even though I'm cut off screen, what do I gotta do? Put my mic over here. I'm gonna pull that thing over. Alright. Alright. We're gonna do it we're gonna do it like this. Look at that. Alright. This is the Hiram key. I talked about this book earlier tonight. It's written by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas. I'm not saying it's all factual. I'm saying here's what it contains. If you open this book oh, look. Chapter nine, the birth of Judaism. I thought this book is about Freemasonry. This is pretty interesting. And then if you go through and you read and you read and you read, get past the mummies, 

you know, get past some of this other stuff, You get to the Knights Templar and how the English started to use Freemasonry and the development of modern Masonry. And then you get to some more interesting passages and how it all comes together. Now it's an interesting book. Like I said, I'm not claiming it's all factual and actual. I'm just saying, like, when you're looking into these things, here is a confluence between secret societies, ancient fertility cults, modern day religions that do have a lot of influence, at least at Scott's church that he was going to. You know what I'm saying? You might wanna understand. 

Like, the World Zionist Conference had a flag, and that became the flag of a country later. Where did those guys pick up the flag? Was it did it come from the Bible? One last comment, and you can quote me on this. The Schofield Bible is just the Talmud for Goyim or Gentiles. I forget which one to use. One of them is a Spanish word that refers to non Jews as pigs. I think that might be Goyim. So maybe it's the Talmud for Gentiles. The Scofield Bible is promulgated by Oxford 

University who brings you the last will and testament of Cecil Rhodes and has been the heartbeat of the empire for a thousand years. So I don't know. Can we like, none of these stories get away from the core themes I've been teaching since two thousand six, but I digress Yeah. Because it's late. Yeah. And I have to say, that's not my church. You said Scott's church, not my church. Yeah. Scott One church Scott went to that has a horse trough with an Israeli flag so that Christians can get baptized. Is that what I'm seeing there? Yes. Yes. Tractor supply and you paint it blue inside. Exactly. I went there once, and I got up and left. I actually asked somebody sitting next to me. I'm like, where are all the American flags? And the person's response was, well, sometimes people wear t shirts that have American flags on them. And I was like, oh, 

okay. Like, what's going on? And he and I did stick around for the the the, sermon a little bit, and he literally said, quote, Palestine never existed. Palestine has never existed. He literally said that. Palestine's a myth. It never existed. I was like, again, he's not big into geography or history. No. And all the people in the congregation just you know, it's I felt bad for them because I'm just like, oh. And this is his church with the tractor supply water trough as a That's it. Baptismal That's a photo. Like Jesus did it. That's just like Jesus did it right there. Yep. You know? Because he definitely had the tractor supply water trough for the horses 

and not the river Jordan or whatever was going on over there. I forget. And it's been a while since Sunday school. You know? And even back then, I took those stories with a grain of salt because I knew they had been passed down and translated and retranslated and different people were, like, I was raised how about this, Scott? In the nineteen eighties for Sunday school, King James is, like, heavy duty language. Thou art this and that. It's like Shakespeare. Right? So they came up with this idea in a very Scofield way. It was called the Good News Bible, and, I still have it. It's in a box probably sitting around waiting to go on a shelf that doesn't exist yet. But the Good News Bible was like 

it's like the New Testament in plain speak. Right? So I was never exposed to the King James Bible until I saw, like, going to church services. I'm like, oh my goodness. Like, you know, you go to other people's congregational activities, and you're like, everybody's got different books. Everyone claims it's the same book, but everyone's books say different things. And then I collected a whole bunch of different Bibles, like, I have on the shelf back here. Let me show you. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, it's like I love the teachings of Jesus. I love so much about, you know, Christian philosophy, the Christian I consider myself a Christian, but I don't go to church. I don't buy any of that. I have a direct connection with God, and that's all I need. And but the t That's There's a lot of good stuff in it. You know? Like, 

every man is own priest as Gatto said in the ultimate history lesson. Now I had just put a whole two blocks of freemason books on the shelf. So, that's why you see you see this. Look. It's the same book that everyone has. It's it's the same same book. Wait. What's that symbol down there? Wait a minute. Wait a minute. It's the same book ever woah. What's that symbol, Scott? Oh, it's like a Hiram key. Oh, wait a minute. 

This is the holy bible master reference. That looks like the you know why thirty three is a big deal? What are those symbols? It's compass and square. Compass and square. What do you do with compass and square? You measure things, delay your bricks. You measure you measure god with a compass and square? No? But you lay bricks with a compass and square, and the thirty three is, like, how long the chain is that surveyors use, 

and it's all part of the imperial system that we continue to use to this day. So there's a whole survey like, George Washington was a surveyor and a freemason. Like, that's all built into like, don't people don't aren't taught that today. But there's a whole bunch of, like, basic building blocks of society that used to be part of the teachings. There was York right, and there was Scottish right. Scottish right won out, but Scottish right was on the side of the Confederacy. And America was the only place that had two grand lodges, one in New York, a York right, and then the Scottish right, which is the Confederate British one. And they're the ones who like, Albert Pike's the Confederate bad guy, and yet Scottish right's in charge of all the stuff today. So that's interesting. Right? So, anyway, 

the point about the Bible is everyone has such staunch belief, but you should read the other books. Like, read the Bhagavad Gita. Right? Read the Mahabharata. Read the Quran. Read about Shintoism. Read some Confucianism. Like, you should read all the books. There's a lot of wisdom in all those books. And then you're like, oh, I have a better menu to choose from. And maybe I don't think any of these are right. And maybe I should just enjoy my own experience and, like you said, my own connection with creation and my creator because that was the whole point of Martin Luther's protest 

that you don't need a pope to stand between you and your creator. And, whatever force brought you here is probably the force you need to work with and not one that might have had, you know, a whole bunch of occult origins and magical Kabbalistic thinking attached to it in the Talmud, which is a big commentary on the thing that they created. I mean, it being the source of all the world's Abrahamic religions is an interesting aspect to overlook all these details and be so staunchly firm with mister Shroyer 

whose fact might be worthy of consideration, observation, and study. Yeah. And that's one of the messages of Jesus too is that, like, you know, know, you don't need all the Pharisees and all these guys in the temple that are just a bunch of corrupt bastards anyway. So just you you and the father. Right? So there you go. That's right, man. Plus, he popularized Birkenstocks. I think he had that he had that deal. He used to do ad reads for them. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. Dude. On a long walk to Jerusalem no. No. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding because this is a comedy show, and every now and then, we're allowed to not be serious. 

Just like what's that pastor's name? Pastor what? Greg Locke. Just like pastor Greg Locke. He's not being serious here. You're not really gonna get baptized in a tractor supply horse trough painted with some rust oleum on the inside with some Home Depot boxes sitting behind there. You're really not going to do that if your name is Scott, but most other people probably did that, didn't they? Yeah. It seemed like everybody there was just fully bought in, and I got up and left after about twenty minutes. I'm like, dude, this is crazy. Like, after he said Palestine never even existed, I was like, I was just there for the spectacle at that point, and I just could not take it, dude. I'm like, I'm out of here, bro. It's crazy. The absence of wisdom in that statement is just massive, 

and I hope someday he learns a little history. Right? I there's memes about it. There's IDF soldiers reading maps of Palestine, and, like, the like, the all the memes are out there. All he needs to do is go to Twitter. Yeah. Okay. And then the other thing too so he talks about this. It's almost worth going back. You know, you guys go go watch the full interview with Alex and Owen because he talks about how he spends about twenty weeks a year in Israel. He says he loves Israel. He meets with Netanyahu all the time. And formerly known as Palestine. Yeah. Exactly. And he just so happens to be, like, Trump's 

head religious adviser. That's true. I think he's more like the part that gets cut off during the circumcision, making him the schmuck. Yeah. Yeah. Greg Locke's yeah. So I'm gonna see Greg Locke's role in the Trump admin. He's like and then, he does the reawaken America tour, which is just like okay. But, anyway, yeah, he mentions how he is like the, yeah, this, like, the spiritual religious 

head guy for Donald Trump. So He's quite a guy. Quite a guy. Loves the Zionism. Alright. So, this next clip, there was something said this past week. It's very incendiary. Okay? Now we could watch Jimmy Dore, but we're not going to because he struggles with the guy's name in a way that is boomer esque. And that could be funny in and of itself, but we're not here to have laughs at Jimmy. We like to laugh with Jimmy. We love Jimmy. So we're not gonna show you Jimmy's coverage because he gets his name done. So the guy's name is Bob Villan. 

Like, he's the bad guy. Like, he's riffing with you know, chilling like a villain with Bob Dylan. Okay? His name's Bob Dylan, and he said some things to make himself notorious, and that's free publicity. And now people are gonna listen to his album. A mil We never oh, we heard that, Colby. And that's happened a couple times. I didn't say anything because it was not a big deal. But I just want you to know that if you need to press a button or whatever when you do that, that's cool. And you couldn't you're not a mind reader, so I had to say something. Alright. So Bob Dylan, chilling like a villain with Bob Dylan, is the is the guy's name. And he said some stuff on stage. Now the first thing he said, I was like, that's not a big deal. A lot of people say that these days. It's very popular to say the thing he just said. And then he he laid down a new track in a very Kanye 

esque style or yay esque to be to be proper these days. Yay esque style. He said just a few words. He said them over and over, Then he waited for the crowd to chant back at him, and the crowd was being streamed by BBC. And then all of a sudden, shit hit the fan, and he lost his Visas and his Mastercard and whatever else. He's not allowed to travel when he plays. He can't get in the United States now. He had to cancel his store, all this other stuff. But on the flip side of it, everybody 

knows Bob Dylan. And if you don't know Bob Dylan, you're about to be introduced to Bob Dylan by Bob Dylan. And I got through that whole part right there without saying his name wrong because it rhymes with Bob Dylan. You're supposed to be confused. I'm pretty sure he knows about Bob Dylan and still took the name Bob Dylan, and he, maybe is a good guy. We'll see. If he's contradictory, if he's contrarian, we will see in this clip. Now we had the option. I could show you breaking points, you know, and and Dave Smith, 

Or I could show you, like, more, like, other side of the fence. What should we do, Scott? I I don't have to go with the one we put from Double Down News. Maybe we should go to broken points because at least maybe Dave Smith says something funny. Okay. I mean But Ryan is such a suck up. You're not familiar with Double Down. Ryan Grim, the bad haircut guy. Anyway Oh. Is that doubled? Is he on Double Down now? No. No. No. He's over at breaking points. We're probably I don't think it was Crystal and Saugher. I thought it was Ryan Grim that reported them. Anyway, I was trying to stay away from that. So let's go to let's go to the double down news. We will get to hear the lyrics 

and an explanation from someone who does know that Palestine used to be a place that wasn't filled with Eastern Europeans who moved there because of a tiny mustache man who helped them achieve a plan that they made sixty years before the tiny mustache man. It's all very confusing and involves secret societies. A lot of interesting documents, but we're gonna have them break it down at Double Down News. And, let's see if we can learn a little bit more about Bob Dylan. Putting down over a punk rocker chanting at Glastonbury. Well, I thought it was appalling, to be honest. It does evoke some of the worst moments in human history, shall we say. People question how on earth could Hitler ever have happened, point to Glastonbury, and say that's 

how. Ignorant people who were waving Palestine flags at Glastonbury. They're being indoctrinated at Glastonbury. It's appalling, isn't it? What I found more shocking was the crowd singing along with it. It's worth reminding ourselves of what the IDF has been up to over the past two years. While the Glastonbury Festival was taking place, hundreds of Palestinians, many of them children, were killed by the Israeli military in Gaza. The Israeli military is in no way, shape, or form a victim. It's an occupying force, which according to international law has no right to self defense, let alone genocide. The IDF stands for the Israeli Defense Forces, but there is nothing defensive 

about genocide. The Israeli embassy stated that the words uttered on the stage at Glastonbury amount to incitement to ethnic cleansing. This is a regime that is actively ethnically cleansing the Palestinians as we speak. The Israeli occupation forces have been burning children alive in tents. The Israeli military has been sniping children directly in the head. The Israeli occupation forces have been luring starving Palestinians 

to food distribution centers then mowing them down as direct policy. The Israeli military filled the car, which contained Hindrajeb and her family with hundreds of bullets. The Israeli occupation forces have bombed thirty six hospitals. The Israeli military killed fifteen paramedics in Rafah as they came to try and help those injured in an earlier airstrike. 

If our media and political class close their eyes to this horror, we cannot take their crocodile tears seriously. Where is the same respect for the sanctity of human life when Israelis march through occupied Jerusalem and chant Where is the same respect for the sanctity of human life when Zionists took to the streets of New York chanting? They didn't say death to Palestinian 

military forces. They said death to Arabs. They are lying about what Bob Dylan said at Glastonbury. Death to the IDF means death to an occupying force which is dispossessing Palestinians and killing them on an industrial scale every single day. It does not mean death to a particular religious group. This campaign has always been about maintenance of the industrial scale killing 

of Palestinians. It's always been about maintenance of the factory of death. Allow the killing of Palestinians to continue and don't resist. The concept of fighting occupiers is a divine right that throughout history people have practiced. According to UN resolution three two four six, all people subject to foreign occupation have the right to engage in armed resistance. In fact, the vast majority of humanity 

consider themselves post colonial subjects. When Palestinians save from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free. They are articulating the very same call made by black South Africans during apartheid that they would have independence from minority supremacist rule. They are making the same argument that Angolans made against the Portuguese. They are making the same argument that the French resistance made against the occupation 

of France in the second World War. When it comes to Palestinian armed resistance, the groups practicing it are prescribed by the UK government, which represents sixty seven million people, the US government, which represents over three hundred and thirty million people, the EU, which represents four hundred and forty six million people, and the Japanese government. So altogether, less than one billion people in the world are represented by governments that prescribe those practicing armed resistance 

against the Israeli occupation forces. That is less than one in eight people in the world. The vast majority of humanity are governed by political systems which do not prescribe the fighting and killing of Israeli soldiers as terrorism. Outside parliament today, there is a statue of none other than Nelson Mandela. He spent twenty seven years in Robben Island in jail in apartheid South Africa for resisting that system. It has to be remembered that ANC 

did kill soldiers too. Piers Morgan will compare himself to Nelson Mandela in his struggle for free speech. Why does this speech not extend to the vast majority of humanity who do not view violence against military occupiers as a bad thing. Think about the hypocrisy of the free speech warriors who have been harping on for years and years about how they are the ones being canceled for what they say, now lining up to try and cancel 

these musicians for voicing their points of view. When The Clash said, I hate the army and I hate the RAF, when the Sex Pistol said, God save the queen and a fascist regime, many of the people today deriding kneecap and Bobby villain were nodding along and smiling. Why was it okay for their generation to have punk musicians who challenged the status quo and the sacred ideas of the time, but it's not okay for this generation 

to stand up against genocide? So let's be clear. They can cancel Bob Dylan. They can cancel and prosecute kneecap. They can ban Palestine action, and they can silence every voice within the English language. But as long as there is genocide, there will always be resistance. This is a classic case where the media is attempting to manufacture consent for a crackdown on what you can say about genocide. 

At Double Down News, you have the opposite policy in place. Free speech about genocide. Join Double Down News now on Patreon to keep the train running. Over the weekend at the, Glastonbury Festival, which is apparently this gigantic cultural event, over in England, the the monitors over at BBC were on guard, 

to make sure, that what's what's the Irish band that they are that they're all scared of? The, the the one that says free Palestine? You know, they had a cute. Yeah. They were they were they're basically, they accused them of, like, waving a Hezbollah flag at a previous rally. So they're they're like, we're gonna make sure that these mix do not say the words, you know, free Palestine. They're on guard. They they kept them from performing live over the airwaves, said, yeah. You have to you can get them on demand later. 

And then they just let their guard down for the top performance, by Bob Dylan. So he comes on stage. Let's roll a little bit of kinda what the censors missed. Free free. Free free. Free free. Free free. Alright. But have you heard this one, though? Death death to the IDF. Death death to the IDF. Death Death to the IDF. Death. Death to the IDF. Death. Death to the IDF. Death. Death to the IDF. 

Death. Death to the IDF. A kind of It kind of remarkable visual because you've got the BBC logo up in the corner there, and you've got the, like, the well produced, you know, cameras that are rolling over the crowd while you also hear the crowd chanting along with him, which has led to a predictable, out, meltdown in in England and around the world in response to it. Villan himself came out with a statement, which said he's where he said, I said what I said. That was his statement, and then he had a longer statement about how political change is important, and you gotta speak from whatever platform. No. So not not backing down. 

They the English British are saying they're even going to, like, open an investigation into whether charges ought to be brought. Dave, did you did you happen to watch the Glastonbury Festival in real time? Is this in a cultural event you're tuned into, or did you only pick up on it after the meltdown? No. I have I've never heard of this. I've never heard of the event. I've never heard of the band or this guy, which is it's funny because that's, I think, the case for, like, nine ninety nine. Band I was trying to think of. Yes. Yes. Sorry. But I think ninety nine percent of 

yes. That's right. I'm sure a huge, portion of the, Breaking Point's audience. But no no so nobody, I think, essentially, of the people who are outraged about this actually cared about it or knew about it. But, again, it is it's you know, I've done like, I've done so many of these debates on Israel Palestine over the last couple years and so many, like, shows about it. And it's like we were saying earlier, it's the the double standards and the hypocrisy are just, like, what's so overwhelming. You know? It's it's, 

the idea that after all of these months of just women and children being massacred in the most ruthless ways that we're supposed to be outraged about, like, a chant at a concert and that this is, you know, this is really the threat of our time, not what the IDF is doing to to Gaza. It's just it's very bizarre. And so yeah. Look. It's it's fairly predictable that this was a provocative thing to do. And I think the thing that that should be, 

a wake up call is just as you pointed out, it's such a huge crowd, and they're all in agreement. And I think that's the thing that is is threatening to people who are are supporters of Israel, but should be something that everybody should take a look at. Like, hey. Look. What's going on here? And this is however you feel about it, this is going to be one of the costs that that this that comes with the policy of destroying Gaza. And I have been I'm I still just cannot believe, 

twenty two months later, whatever we are, since October seventh, that the pro Israel crowd doesn't wake up to this. That it's like, hey. Look. Yes. The the poor Palestinians cannot stop you. And as we were just discussing, it seems like for whatever reason, the Americans, including the Trump administration, are unable or unwilling to put pressure on Israel to stop them. America really is the only the the Americans are the only ones who could stop the Israelis, and we're not. We're facilitating it. And the poor Palestinians are helpless. 

However, you are turning the entire world against you. And for a group of people, I say this as as a a Jewish, you know, person myself, I'm I'm well aware of the the culture of kind of paranoia within Jewish Americans at least. And I think maybe maybe that's, understandable given Mhmm. The history of of how Jews have been treated in the world. But if you have that, if you have this concern that there's this rise in antisemitism, there's this rise in Jew hatred, and, oh my god, a a a next authoritarian, 

Hitleresque figure could be right around the corner, then my god, read the room. I mean, then then advocate to end this policy because it is coming with this. You're listen. Turns out you can only slaughter so many in women and children before you make a lot of people hate you. And and the way that that manifests itself is not always gonna be, you know, a man in a suit and tie saying, excuse me, good sir. I disagree with this policy decision of slaughtering women and children. It's gonna look like this quite often. And if you don't wanna see more of it, 

stop slaughtering women and children. That's it's a really interesting point about the the crowd response because you're right. The villain, maybe. Maybe they can find some laws that he broke in in England. You could you can end his career. You could have prevented him from even ever going on stage. You know what? We've looked into your past. You said some things. We're nervous about what you're gonna say. We're not gonna put you up on stage. What you can't do if you're an Israeli defender 

is influence how that crowd is going to respond. Because, yeah, if if Bob Dylan goes up there and chants Alright. Go ahead. Pull it up. Death death the IDF and the crap Listening to Ryan Grim opine on punk rock that he does not understand past, present, or future is much like that scene from Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas where Johnny Depp's character, Hunter Thompson's in the bathroom tripping balls, and he's, like, you know, licking some acid or some crazy shit. And this other guy just walks in, and he's like, that poor guy thinks this is always going on all the time in the bathrooms. Anyway, I had had enough of that, and I needed the segue. 

Did I do okay, Scott? Yeah. That was that was pretty good. That was pretty good. You have to watch that scene. It's a good scene. You'd get what I was saying. I haven't seen that since I was a kid, so I have to go back and watch that one again. But It's a high tide point. Wanna make a history. Yep. You know, it's interesting. That song, I heard all the hubbub about it, so I went back and listened to well, there was that, the chant, that that the IDF, and then there was the other song that he did that I guess kinda got loop looped into that where the song lyrics are basically, you say you want your country back, shut the fuck up. And it's like, it's like a Rage Against the Machine style, like heavy metal rock with, like, rap over the top. And, like, I I used to love Rage Against the Machine. Like, that's my style. Like, I've tried to Before they sold out? Yeah. I tried to emulate yeah. Exactly. I tried to emulate that in the music I made. The main the song I made with John Bound and Rob Duvall. I was trying to go for that feel. So when I heard that song, I was like, hell yeah, dude. I love this. And I even made a Twitter post. I was like I was like, this is, like, the exact type of music I would make. And I heard because they were freaking out saying that the song is 

him saying as a black man, you took my country from me and now you you want it back and you can't have it. I heard it more from the perspective of him saying it like the the the elite saying like, oh, you little peasant. You want your country back? Shut the fuck up. You can't have it. That's the way I heard it, and I was like, that's exactly the type of song I would make, dude. Like, this is great. I did read the lyrics, and it does kinda actually kinda seem like that's kinda what he's saying. But it doesn't even make sense because he's British, and it's like, did the did the British take the the the country from 

black people? I don't even know what he's talking about there. But, anyway, I chose to interpret it as, like, a rocking song where he's taking on the role of the bad guys saying, oh, you want your country back? Well, sorry. Can't have that. So I don't know. If you just tweak the lyrics a little bit and that was the message, that would be, like, my new favorite song. If Walter Cronkite had come out and said, do not let your kids listen to Sid Vicious, what do you think the kids would have done? Exactly. Exactly. It's a catchy song. I liked it. It's the Streisand effect for adults. 

Yeah. I'm working on some new songs right now, and one of them is a very Rage Against the Machine y style song. Kinda like that. So I'm excited. Wow. We'll see. There was a time when Rage still raged. There was a What you should do if you lament Rage Against the Machine selling out. On YouTube, they have, like, one of their, like, early performances from all the big bands. Right? So if you go watch rage against machine, like, the year before they got an album deal, they're pretty much just they were they were ripping. And it sounds just like the albums. Like, of course, they got an album deal. They were that good before they got the album deal, apparently. 

But then Sony and Tony Mottola or whoever killed Michael Jackson along with Schmooley and the security guy, allegedly. Oh, see. I heard that. Ding ding ding ding ding. I like how Jimmy changed his intros because he used to be like, coming to Buckingham Palace, and he, you know, and he just cuts to, like, there's, like, what they call the money shot, not a porn reference. There's a money shot at the beginning, and then they unfold the whole thing. And then he does it at the end because the people who go to see his show, they watch the whole clip. So, yeah, that's how you get people to watch the whole clip. Well done over at the Jimmy Dore production studio. 

They got many people, I'm sure, helping over there. Exactly. You know, that that genre of music, though sorry to just jump back into it. Like, the rage and what this guy is trying to do. It's I feel like that genre is wide open right now because all the people that kind of innovated that genre of, like, the heavy rock with the drums and, like, a hip hop style beat with, like, the the the the dissident rap over the top, that's wide open, dude. So I'm gonna try and jump in, try and take over. Glass and Berry. But but, yeah, I know what you're talking about with those, with those, 

with those early concerts there. I actually I've listened to all of them, and I still admittedly, I still like, if I'm on, like, the the stair climber or something, like, I'll throw on a old rage concert. Like I'm trying to find the actual clip of Bob Dylan playing, like, the music playing the song. Right? So I could I was gonna be surprised to play us out, but now it's not a surprise because I showed you. I I can't find him just playing the song. So where did you hear it, or do you have it? Well, they were playing it on well, it was funny because Alex played it on the show, and he was raging about it. And, I was like, this is and I went and listened to it. I wanna listen to it on Spotify. 

I don't want your country back, Bob villain. Let me see if I could find it. Oh, those many words. That's how you find it. Yeah. It's called you you want your country back. They probably don't have the the the straight concert footage. They probably scrubbed that, dude. Oh, here it is. I'll shoot it over to you. I got it in the production chat here. I'll get it to you. I improved my search. BBC admits it should have, cut Bob Dylan's anti Semitic 

Glastonbury livestream, but they didn't. Just like they should've waited before they told us World Trade Center seven came down. Remember, that was BBC Jane Stanley. Not like they had a script ahead of time. They're just over there five hours ahead of time. Of course, they knew World Trade Center seven was gonna fall. They they had it five hours earlier. Isn't that how that works with the time? Yeah. The Israeli texted them and said, hey, you guys. Like, something going down today. They were on O2Go. You're right. You did see it was on O2Go, I bet. You know what's so funny is I made a post. I I came across this video meme, and it was like, 

let me see. I'll pull it up here real quick. It's it's worth it's worth looking at. It's just like, it's just a fun little meme that I came across in one of my Telegram channels, and I posted it on Instagram. Like, oh, that's kinda cute. And I did give a little blurb about O2Go. And, but basically, this is the this is the meme. Okay? It just goes like when you're you're wondering why all your coworkers with the last name Bergenstein took the day off. Right? That's that's all it is right there. And then there's like a a noise with a plane coming in. Anyway, that's the meme. Now is that anti Semitic, or is it a reference to Odego and the fact that there was a chat system which warned people of a specific 

is it a religion, or is it a race, or is it a political belief? I forget. But, anyway, a bunch of people got warnings, didn't go to work that day. And the the goyim or the gentiles, I guess, is that the argument? But made by this meme, they got sent to work? Yeah. Exactly. Point of view of a Christian, point of view of a non Schofield Bible reading Christian, I guess. Is that how that works? Exactly. But but, see, the point is is, like, it's so crazy because on Instagram, that post I made went banana viral. There's bananas off off the hook. Like, as is and it every day, I get, like, fifty like, maybe, like, twenty five thousand more views on it. It's still going viral, like, every day. Right now, it's at eight hundred ninety nine thousand views, that stupid thing. And I'm getting comments and and and likes, and I'm getting a bunch of subscribers just from that stupid meme. Everyone's 

losing their mind about it. There was a guy that commented today. He was like, well, I looked it up, and it says that there was only two people that were notified. So I'm like, So you just admitted that Israel had foreknowledge, and they they let people know. So now you have to dig deeper. And he's like, wow. I mean, he's like, oh, shit. Yeah. I've, like, made you look. I was like, made you look. Now you gotta dig deeper. Alright. So, prior to Scott sharing that meme, I'd already selected this documentary that I wanted to 

air into the GTW time capsule record tonight because it will help you tie up a lot of the loose ends throughout this episode. The I'll foreshadow it, and then we'll play it later. So it's a two thousand seven documentary by this guy named Simon Schack, who was allegedly an American living in Italy, and he produced this documentary series. And I watched it, and I was like, is that real? Is that real? What do you and then you go and I collected. I spent a lot of time collecting all the official footage from all the official networks 

and going to archive dot org and all the other places to compare what's out there, and there's still a lot of veracity to this day. Now I'm not saying everything he says is true or accurate or right because he's not a, like, super genius future knower of things that can't be known. He's just showing you this is what aired. And in the context of hindsight is twenty twenty, and now you're not watching it live, you might notice there's some very strange things going on in what aired on ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, BBC, 

all these places. Something weird's going on, almost like a COVID type of coordination where everybody was in on whatever the agenda was even if they lost money like jaguar if your attention spans long enough to get that callback reference. Alright. So we're not ready for September Clues is the name of that documentary. We're not ready for that yet. And I'll say, instead of narration, there is some reading involved, so you might have to look at the screen. You know? And if you're driving, wait till you get to the motel or hotel or the truck stop or whatever. 

There are meaningful things being unfolded in all those parts. And, again, I'm not saying it's all correct. I'm saying it's worthy of consideration. And if, it stands not to be valid in several areas, then we can discuss. But to this day, it's eighteen years later, still stands test time pretty interestingly and might also include, like, is it Hamas's media networks that might have colluded and conspired to bring this, war on terror? Very profitable for the deep state, might add. The war on terror to the public. Was that Hamas with their big media conglomerate? 

Where did that all start, by the way? How long has Hamas had a media conglomerate that rivals the mainstream media that could cancel Kanye? Right? Where where does that exist? I'm I'm curious. Is is it is it on the map, or is it lost, like, the area of Palestine? That's the most insane claim I've ever heard in my life. It was so funny. Owen just bust up laughing. He's like, I can't even I don't I can't even respond. A Tucker Carlson laugh on him. Yeah. There's no way I can even respond to that. It's so ludicrous. Yeah. Alright. So in this last media block before we get to the big block, the big block, 

we, damn it. They're two Jimmy Dore clips. Now I'm not trying to, like, turn Jimmy Dore into the new Tim Pool. However, I caught these clips, and I wanna share them with you. And should we throw them away just because Jimmy and Kurt are in them? Probably not. They're probably good clips. Probably damn good clips. Now another one of them, it does have Candace, but she's debunking Ted Cruz from last week from the Tucker Carlson interview. It's like it's like days of our lives or guiding light, only it's reality, and your future depends on it. That's why you might wanna pay attention even though sometimes it seems frivolous and jokeish. 

Like, we're trying to remain free, and there's people there's flavor the slavers are right right behind us, so we gotta keep moving toward the point. So, Piers Morgan has lost his audience with Israel. They start calling him an antisemite, and he carried a lot of water for Zionism. He was like the age of Aquarius for Zionism. He's like the water bearer, and men don't carry water in history. So what's going on with that astrological symbolism? 

Is it astrotheology and shamanism in that Israeli flag? Is it fertility worship? Is it sex worship? Is that what Shmueli is that what he knows? Is that why Rabbi Schneerson standing behind Shmueli and RFK Jr is looking like that? Because he knows it's all sex. What about Catholic church? Don't they have, like, Guadalupe, Virgin Mary type of iconography that looks suspiciously like a vagina and clitoris? I'm not saying it's on purpose, but the holy of holies that the masons keep talking about with king Solomon, 

It might have a double meaning. It might. You ever see, what's the, there's a there's a Edinburgh church, and they take a picture of the town from above, and it just looks like a vagina with a clitoris. And, you know, people would say, you know, it's not so hard to find. Right there, it's the cathedral. It's in the position of the holy of holies. I don't know. Maybe it's another reference. Maybe I'm maybe I'm mistranslating the translation. But graphically, from the architecture, it seems very purposeful, very symmetrical, 

very Vesica Pisces ish. What's Scott got there? Oh, he's got a search engine going on. Oh my goodness. Look at that. Yeah. Hold on. I gotta I gotta talk so it'll pop up on the screen. But, yeah, is that what you're talking about right there? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now, Josie, red headed libertarian, had a tweet one time, which had that picture, and it was hilarious. It's like, you know, for for men who can't find the spot, it's at the the cathedral or something like that. It was I'm misquoting because I didn't study it, but I did laugh at it. And I was like, Look. They they they actually built that. Like, somebody drew that out. Like, we're gonna make the whole town look like a vagina. Okay, guys? 

Don't tell anybody and get them to chip in their ten percent, please. I don't know. Is it on purpose? Is it accidental? Do they have a sense of humor, or is it maybe more fertility worship from the ancient religions? Yeah. Hey. Guadalupe. Yeah. It might be it might be something there. So, you know, this is not religious symbol symbology study class, but it could be. But no. Well, that's not what this is Grand Theft World. This isn't this isn't a video game, people. Is that what I'm saying? Grand Theft Auto is Grand Theft Auto, folks. This isn't a video game. 

Man, he said it two times. Like, Jimmy, two times from Goodfellas. Take it. He did. He did, apparently. He took the methylene blue. Yeah. Methylene methylene blue. I always thought that was, like, a code name for one of Obama's boyfriends or something, methylene. He blew blew. Like, that's is that a what was that guy's name? Larry? Larry Sinclair. Larry Sinclair. Is he still alive? 

I think so. You want me to reach out to him for an interview? No. No. No. No. No. Rudalski did the interview of all interviews. There's no need to interview, Larry. I'm glad he's alive and well. DM's are open on acts. After he had that press conference at the at the press club there in DC, I wasn't so sure about his future when he said all that stuff, which again is allegations that have not been substantiated in any way other than circumstantial and many, many, many, many cases out there in the public. I don't know. Yeah. And He loves the ditty party, Obama. It's one of those things where, like, you know, they always say, well, if if he was you know, if he was lying, then Obama would sue him. But since he hasn't Or kill him. Kill him. Yeah. So Obama is quoted as saying he's really good at killing people. 

Yes. He is. And he killed American citizens. Yep. So, like, where what's stopping him at that point? Yeah. Or even doing it when he was in his sweatpants and blaming him on Joe. Right? Because Obama said he'd do a third term, but he'd like to do it in his sweatpants from home and not have to do the dog and pony shit. Oh, you know it. If you guys don't think that's what happened with Joe Biden and you think Joe Biden was actually doing anything other than taking up space and breathing some air occasionally, 

Like, you haven't been paying attention. But you could. You just need to invest some time and attention to pay attention. Yeah. I'm waiting for Candace to turn her investigative her McCrone investigative skills on the Obama family, if you know what I mean. Well, but that one have a chance because I heard her say some stuff about Israel this week that I was like, really? Really? Like, you you just, you know, paying the target on yourself. You're just saying, like, people get it. I don't know. She said some stuff, and I was like, oh, I know what she said. She 

opposed regime change in Iran but supported regime change for Israel. And, you know, some people would think those are fighting words. Regime change them. They are the regime changers, not the changees. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Well, it's not her fault that Obama married some of the penis. Yeah. It would be like bizarro regime change. 

Yeah. See, it's a Seinfeld reference because we all saw Seinfeld. There was bizarro Jerry. Whoever they anyway Oh, yeah. Well, you know, also, when I I heard you were too young. On Alex. No. I know I know all about Seinfeld, dude. I You saw the replays. I saw. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Yep. I did, actually. But I, Michael Savage was on with Alex last week too or maybe it was the week before, and he was talking about how he thinks they should have regime change in Israel. But it's mostly because he's do he's doing it from a very pro Israel standpoint saying that, you know for the business. Yeah. It's long term. Long term. We need better leadership in there because Well, people in Israel think they should have regime change in Israel, and BB only got to stay there because he he popped off a war, and then Trump brought it to a swift end. 

So maybe, you know, maybe he sees BB as a threat. Yeah. But a threat, you have to, like, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. Like, there might be I'm not saying Trump's smart. I don't wanna say Trump's smart, but he's outsmarted the Democrats. Yeah. So I don't know what that makes him. Smarter than them? Okay. We can all agree he's smarter than the people he beat. Right? So if BB is a push in, then maybe you pull out the chair for him. Make make him feel real comfortable. 

Hey. Tell me your plans on Iran. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Uh-huh. Well, we've actually been planning to bomb bomb that same place. Like, I don't know. I don't claim to know. I'm just saying when people believe the first thing they hear, it's usually not the right thing. And if we could just hold our options open past the first thing we hear to be like, what's everyone else got on their their test homework here? Oh, yeah? Oh, wait. That that's a little different than what I heard about Bob Dylan. Oh, okay. Right? Then you get some nuance, some detail. You turn it less into a cartoon and more into a real human being. Right? When when Corbett was saying he wanted to be a real writer, that's, like, from Pinocchio. It's a Pinocchio reference. He wanted to be a real boy, Pinocchio. 

And that's a dark book. Do not read that book to your children, and do some research on the pedophiles that bring those fucking stories. That whole land, you know, I don't wanna steal people's comedy bits. But, anyway, there's just a whole bunch of sorted stuff in that. Yeah. There really is. When you watch as an adult, you're like, what in the heck? Like, it's just like they're trafficking kids, dude. It's crazy. I want to say this too. It's kinda funny. When I was hosting Chris Lee's show DC Dispatch, I learned they asked me, like, first thing you do is you go in and you pull up Trump's schedule for the day. And so I was reporting on Trump, like, oh, Trump's gonna get on a plane. He's going down to Alligator Alcazar. Taking a shit from the McDonald's right now. Yep. Yep. So so they have his schedule, his itinerary posted publicly. So I learned how to read that. And if you look tomorrow, so this is tomorrow, 

at six thirty PM, he the president greets prime minister of the state of Israel. And at six thirty five, the party states a dinner with the prime minister of the state of Israel. So he's having dinner with Netanyahu tomorrow in Washington, DC. Are they having McDonald's? Probably. Or does he make special considerations? Like, if you win a national championship right? If you're, like, a college football team, you get some McDonald's with the president. Do you think he brings BB, like, filet of fish? Kosher McDonald's. Do they have a Kosher McDonald's? Do. Yeah. Yeah. 

Not the Halal McDonald's. That would be, what they call a faux pas, a social mistake. No bacon on the cheeseburger. Yeah. Bring him a bacon cheeseburger. Bacon cheeseburger. It's okay, prime minister. It's not real bacon anymore. Never was. Never was. It's got bortane from Albert Bourla, and that's a Pfizer joke. You'll have to research Improvac to get it, but it'll take you a while, but you'll get it, and it'll be rewarding. And then you can learn more about chemical castration. It's not a eugenics plan, and it definitely has nothing to do with anything else we've talked about in this episode. 

So just let it slide. Let it slide. Alright. Let's go to these two g I apologize about that. Quick just just I'm just gonna say real quick. You could use Clip Genie, g t w dot Clip Genie dot com, to go back to learn and learn all about bortane, if you wanna get that right. There you go. B o a r t a I n t. And don't ask what the taint is. It's not what you think. Okay? It's different type of taint. It's tainting the taste of the bacon. Okay? It's not like a shmooly thing. Alright. See, I replaced the word dirty with shmooly just because he always says people call him dirty anyway. So I was like, I don't know. Let me know if that shoe fits, Cinderella. 

Alright. Now let's go. I've apologized for enough, Jimmy and Kurt. They're bringing you the news too. Right? It's not my job to go collect the news. It's to find the coolest prep, presentations of what happened this week. So it's not all about us. It's about the team. Alright. So let's go. We're gonna learn about how Piers Morgan is a raging antisemite. It's on the thumbnail. Must be true. And then, Candace is gonna call out Ted like, Ted Cruz calls himself out. There's a good video called Ted Cruz versus Ted Cruz from last week, and it's hilarious. It's from the Tucker interview. Like, Tucker caught it together too, like, his people. Like, it wasn't even people on YouTube. They're like, you know what? We could have Ted Cruz versus Ted Cruz just from this one interview. Anyway, 

this is Candice taking Ted to task, like the alliteration. See, I have to work hard in the early hours to do that. She's taken Ted to task over, his claim is from the bible, which also kinda fit in with a couple other stories that, you know, unless all the truth people are reading from the same sheet, it was like, there's a lot of synchronicity. People around the world are coming to realizations about things that people have believed for thousands of years, and it's not just dead sea scrolls or Nag Hammadi libraries that are enlightening people. 

They're just comparing what Ted says to what Ted says, apparently. So we'll get to that. Let's go to the double bubble of the Jimmy Dore show. It finally happened. The Zionists have turned on Piers Morgan, a guy who's had their back for the better part of two years while they've committed a genocide. Now Piers now they've turned on Piers Morgan. The order has been sent out. Zionism is no longer profitable. So when it became unprofitable 

for Piers Morgan, he switched. That's the that's the assessment. So you know what this means, Zionists? I just wanna give you a heads up. What this means is that all your power is gone everywhere all at once, and the ones who are slow to figure that out are the ones who will feel it the worst. But but, you know, by the time they allow by the time they allow, a puppet like Piers Morgan to shove his own hand up his own ass and take control of his head and criticize Israel, 

It's time to go back to Poland. It's time to go back to Poland. Bebe Milakowski. The elite really? The elites have now turned on you, Not because you're evil, but because you're you're inept, stupid, and insane at being evil, and you blew it. You you embarrassed the ones at the very top, making you the weakest link. So here you wanna hear so here he is. Here's Piers Morgan doing some of his work. The I was told by the investor to UK, it was a blood libel for me to suggest that Israel had killed children. No. I don't believe that was the case. It has to do with targeting children. No. No. No. No. No. No. Here it is. So here is the 

ambassador from Israel gonna call it a blood libel. Watch. Few days ago, you have two doctors in Gaza who have ten children, and nine of them are killed in a, bombardment by your forces, that doesn't make people feel, oh, this is all going great. It makes people think that you're waging a systematic destruction, not just of property and of land, but also of children. And that's what's happening. Here. The percentage of children the percentage of children that you're killing 

compared to the percentage of you're killing of Hamas terrorists, what is it? Do you know how many jobs you've killed? What what have you no. Answer answer me that one question. Do you know how many Hamas terrorists you've killed and how many children you've killed? Do you know those two numbers? I know the numbers that came from the IDF. I know the numbers that came from a very, very established Give me the two numb give me the two numbers. Wait a second. We killed thirty thousand. We killed thirty thousand terrorists in phase one of the war. Since the war is is back, I don't have the numbers. But let me tell you one thing. We never tried children have you killed? We never target civilians. So this question is irrelevant. How many children have you how many children have you killed? Piers, Israel is not killing children. Israel is not killing children. Hamas is using them as human shield. Children every single day. Piers, this is a black label you're putting on Israel. Why pretend? Not true. What? No. So there it is. 

They accused Piers Morgan of a blood libel. And so and and her defense is because I said so. That's it. The because yeah. Because I am a certain that's it. That's it. Go ahead. Piers is the ultimate submissive to power. Do you know how much of a kinky pervert you have to be for him to walk out of the orgy on this? Right. For him to go, this is wrong. Yes. You are demented because Piers will tow he'll carry water for almost anything. 

Remember when, what's the name says or Tucker goes, it's kinda wrong to kill children. He goes, is it? Is it? He was yeah. He was he said it's war, so you get to kill children. That's how bad it's gotten that even Piers Morgan has now flipped on Zionism because it's not it's certainly, it's not profitable anymore for him. Word is out. Word is out. So can't that's what that means. So let's let's watch him, do it here. I was told by the ambassador to UK, it was a blood libel for me to suggest that Israel had killed children. No. I don't believe that was the case. It has to do with targeting children. No. No. There is a difference. Right. Because we are hearing that Israel is targeting children, and that couldn't be further from happening. Nine out of ten children in one home where two doctors reside 

were killed in an airstrike. Was that what was that? Remarkable. Well, what was that? That has been based only on the basis of hearsay You don't believe that story? Information. I want these stories Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait a minute. You don't believe that those children were killed? I have seen conflicting accounts, and I want that story to be properly investigated before the international media runs with it. I have seen those two parents, one of whom I think operated on on one of the children I have a question. Think that those two doctors, the parents, they just made it up Why are they saying that ten children had been blown to pieces by an Israeli airstrike? If this is true You don't believe it? Well, there why on earth was artificially 

generated imagery used to promote this story when it first happened? Natasha, I think what you just said about that family is is despicable. We've seen time. I'm sorry. Yeah. It's despicable. What's libel? Somebody you talk about blood libel like Dave said. You talk about blood libel. You talk about lies. Well, I said You talk about promoting propaganda. And here you sit here as a lawyer, and you say that you do not believe those nine children were killed. I didn't say that. You're putting words in my mouth. I thought I said that they were conflicting. Do you believe it? And it needs to be investigated. Do you believe it? I thought you would be the person said nine of their ten children were killed. Do you believe it or 

did those two doctors make it up? They haven't said that directly as far as I have seen. I have seen secondhand accounts and hearsay, but it's important to ask why are these civilians still there. Why is it that they important to ask whether you believe that family have lost nine of their ten children. I want to know why the international community You don't. And this goes to the point that I would say about Israel Why is this one a civilian? Israel says they don't believe anything. Everything come up. Every story that comes out Yep. About the deaths of civilians in Gaza Because there is a threat to the representing 

the Israeli government saying, it's propaganda. It's not true. I've heard it's not right. I've heard it didn't happen. So there is Piers Morgan flipping on Zionists and Israel, and I know everybody's waiting for Michael Rapaport to be the next one to flip. Imagine imagine being forced to like Michael Rapaport again because he did that. No. I always he was always good and stuff. In fact, in fallout, the series, he's great in that. He's such a scum. And, I was talking to my buddy Johnny Pemberton on the show, and I'm like he was like, yeah. Nobody knew. 

Like, he just came into his job, but, like, Michael Rapoport's horrifying, and he's definitely being paid. That's a hundred percent I promise you. He got paid. Hasbro money. And so here is, the Zionist turning so they already called Piers Morgan a blood libelist because he's saying that, they're killing children. I think we can now officially declare Piers Morgan is an antisemite, says this, Zionist genocide defender. Isn't that wild? Yeah. Oh, when does it become official? Will that be on my tattoo? 

Zionism and Judaism are not the same thing, although the Zionists wanna conflate them. I can't believe it's anybody. Then they could call any criticism of Zionism antisemitism. But Zionism is to Judaism what the KKK is to Christianity. That's a great way to put it. That's a great way to put it. I've been filed so this is I don't even know. Amical Chikidi says, I've been following Piers Morgan's interview since the beginning of the war. From the outset, it was clear that like most western media, his basic inclination was pro Palestinian. 

Oh my god. But he appeared to maintain a relatively fair and balanced line. Since then, however, I've witnessed a sharp and troubling descent into overt antisemitism. So they're they're just calling him antisemitism. Sincere. Oh. So Well, that's actually a great T shirt, actually. Describe Piers Morgan in two words, antisemite. There it is. And they and they put him in a one word. What that is one word. That's one word. I need a T shirt of that. So that's a look at And he's wearing what is that called? That a kafir fur fur fur? What is that called? You know what? Kafir Oh, a Kafir or something. I think it's called a Kafir. Want I don't want the anti semite on the forehead for the t shirt. I just want Piers Morgan in this kaffia 

in this job. That's the funniest thing I've ever seen. So it's it's time for Zionist. You have to face it. Nobody likes you. And the ones who pretend to like you are just scared of you. They're afraid to lose their jobs, the ones in Hollywood. But all that all that fear is now going away, and you don't have a plan b. And if anyone should have a plan b, it should be someone who keeps talking about raping everyone else. Probably stand up comedy, I guess. 

Here's another one. Zionist had no issue with Piers Morgan being rude and arrogant for two years, cutting off anyone who dared show receipts of Israel's genocide by screaming, but do you condemn Hamas? That's that was his refrain. Mhmm. But the moment he turns that chaos energy on them, it's all tears and tantrums. Here's what they with Piers. Here's what I don't wanna be on this side. I'm prejudiced like a good person against Muslims. 

Israel screwed up. If Pierce can't carry if Pierce can't do this show, your venue sucks. So it's hard to pick a winner in this one. Piers Morgan or the, Zionist. But it's there's nobody really to like on either side, sort of like a modern streaming service series. Nobody's saying that Piers Morgan has come to the light. More than likely, his masters are testing the waters by throwing him into it and seeing what attacks occur. He's nothing but bait in the water. Maybe that's why they call him old chum at a men's club. Am I right? 

Same as that guy, Bob Dylan. Same thing. It's the same principle. Bob Dylan. Old that Iran, they can have nukes because they're a bunch of rabid fundamentalists. Right? Religious fanatics. And at the same time, you are saying that Israel doesn't have to abide by international law. They don't have to even speak or acknowledge the fact that they have nukes. It's okay that they stole that from America, that they stole weapons from America. You are watching the Jimmy Dore Show. I am not Jimmy Dore. I'm your guest host, Misty Winston. 

So we're gonna move into a couple significant parts of the interview heard around the world, the Tucker Carlson with Ted Cruz interview, which was very, interesting, we'll say. So the first portion that we wanted to point out, is where you will hear, Cruz alleged that you have to support Israel if you're a Christian because the Bible says so, which is an interesting take. So let me find that video. Here we go. This is what he had to say about that. Sunday school, I was taught from the Bible. Those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those who curse Israel will be cursed. And from my perspective, I wanna be on the blessing side of things. Of the those who bless the government of Israel? Those who bless Israel is what it says. It doesn't say the government of it. It says the nation of Israel. So that's in the Bible. As a Christian, I believe that. Where is that? I I can find it to you. I I don't have the the the scripture off the tip of my 

you pull out the phone and use the It's in Genesis. So you're quoting a a Bible phrase you don't have context for and you don't know where in the Bible it is, but that's, like, your theology? I'm confused. What does that even mean? Tucker. I'm a Christian. I wanna know what you're talking about. Where does my support for Israel come from? Number one, because biblically, we are commanded to support Israel. But number two Hold on. No. No. No. No. No. No. Hold on. You're a senator, and now you're throwing out theology, and I am a Christian. I am allowed to weigh in on this. We are commanded as Christians to support the government of Israel? We are commanded to support Israel. And we're told mean, Israel? Told those who bless Israel will be blessed. But what hold on. Define Israel. This is important. Are you kidding? I this this is what Jordan Christian mentioned. Define Israel? Could do you not know what Israel is? I I know. That would be the country you've asked, like, forty nine questions about. So that's what Genesis that's what God is talking about. The nation of Israel. Yes. And and he's so is that the current borders, the current leadership? He's talking about the political entity called Israel? He he's talking about the nation of Israel. Yet nations exist, and he's discussing a nation. A nation was the people of Israel. He's the nation. They're the descendants of Abraham. Two in Genesis, is that the same as the country run by Benjamin Netanyahu right now? 

That was beautiful. Tucker's face is so funny. He's like he's so confused. The best confused face I've ever seen. And my new favorite line of all time is pull out the phone and do the Google. Yeah. Yeah. So funny. That was that was wonderful. Of course, that's not what God was referring to. Do we have a clip that Candace Owens, talked about? I'm gonna play that too. Let me find that one here. Here it is. So this is Candace Owens, and her response to what Ted Cruz just said there. And I'm really happy he said that because when you hear it, you realize how ridiculous it sounds. Even if you're not following a theology, if you don't identify as a Christian, you realize that you have a senator that is sitting across saying that his number one reason he didn't say one of the reasons. He said my number one reason that I support Israel is because the Bible commands him to do so. And just so you know, the Bible does not command and this is what Tucker Carlson is getting to in that clip, it absolutely does not command you to, support the modern state of Israel. Like, Genesis is is pointing to the modern nineteen forty eight created state of Israel, and and you must support it despite the fact that it is 

very much involved in what can only be described as demonic behavior since its creation. Right? And so you're gonna ignore every other biblical passage. You're gonna misinterpret this one. It's a a dispensationalist heresy, dispensationalist heresy, which was factually funded by the World Zionist Congress. And we can do another episode on that as I present to you guys all of the evidence that what it guided the notations. This really stems from the Scofield Bible, and was overseas and alleges that he wrote all of these notes in the Bible and is telling people how to read their Bibles. The first time annotations were put underneath the passages. So this is what Genesis says, and this is what it means, and this is how this heresy arrived in America. Then somehow this guy is able to becomes the most printed book, and Oxford press gets behind it because, like, a random pastor. You get you get the idea here. It was very much a funded effort to have Christians misunderstand 

the bible, and Ted Cruz is one of these Christians. And so he says this is number one reason that he supports what they're doing. So he is willing to support the criminality of Benjamin Netanyahu because he's just in the land of Israel. That's he's saying it's it's a nation state of Israel. By that argument, if suddenly the current Israelis in Israel all left and we put in a bunch of Iranians, then he would say the same thing because it's a place. Right? So Ted Cruz would say, my bible commands me. I will be blessed. I bless those who bless Israel. He's talking about a place, a physical place, and anybody could be in there, and he would back it. It's an absolute nonsense for him to suggest this. And like I said, it's also a theological disaster, and it's so important for people to learn the history, the true history of the Scofield Bible and this sort of modern dispensationalist belief, which has been so toxic to our foreign policy and has been pushed, in large part. It's it's even a hyphening of Judeo Christian values. I'm a Christian. I am not, I am I am not Jewish. I am a Christian. My values are Christian, and, frankly, it you should believe that a country which has involved itself as Israel has in blackmail, in murder, in bombing children, in murdering and and starving women and children to get what it wants, the deception. And, I mean, you could talk about it on a widespread level. You could talk about it on a historical level. You could talk about it on a molecular or a personal level. It it is like a requirement to support Zionism. You just have to lie. You have to lie, like, all the time. I mean, they are just every day pushing this idea that I'm funded by Qatar. Not a shred of proof. It's completely false. It is untrue, and they say it every day because they have no other arguments. 

All they have to do is keep hoping that people, like Senator Ted Cruz, if especially if they're being funded by AIPAC, will completely misinterpret the the genesis and believe that no matter what, they have to support the policies of Bibi Netanyahu, which not even the Israelis support. Right? They don't even support him. They're protesting against him in wartime. So that's that's very it should terrify you, frankly. It should terrify you. It's also ironic that we are told that Iran, they can have nukes because they're a bunch of rabid fundamentalists, right, religious fanatics. And at the same time, you are saying that Israel doesn't have to abide by international law. They don't have to even speak or acknowledge the fact that they have nukes. It's okay that they stole that from America. They stole weapons from America. It's okay that Jeffrey Epstein is running a blackmail ring on our politicians, a sexual black was running a sexual blackmail ring, via the Mossad. It's okay. And they don't have to answer questions about JFK, 

and Jack Ruby, otherwise known as Jacob Rubinstein and his involvement. We just have to accept that whatever they do, no matter how toxic and horrible and demonic it is, it's perfectly acceptable because God is going to bless you if you bless this land. So, she she she knows her bible. She knows her Christianity, and Ted Cruz doesn't. And so that's just Ted Cruz, lying again to, justify the unjustifiable, and that is to, support and prop up this genocidal regime, 

headed by Benjamin Netanyahu. And It's an insane take, Jimmy. And it's like, first of all, there's a separation of church and state for a reason, my guy. Like, your Bible doesn't it shouldn't even come into play. That shouldn't even be a consideration for you as a senator, as an elected member of just shouldn't that shouldn't even enter into it. And that to me, what was so interesting about that part of that interview is that he was talking about how, when he ran for senate, he did so with, like, his number one goal was to, like, be the number one ardent defender of Israel. 

Yes. What? Yeah. That's the crazy I I ran because I wanted to to defend it. Protect Israel. I want I my main interest is defending another country. It it and it you know, he went on in that interview to call the the Israeli, the people running Iran right now as religious zealots as if they're, but apparently, he's not a religious zealot if he uses the bible to justify, his foreign policy. That's Yeah. 

So It's crazy. It's wild. I do not know what Ted Cruz thought. He did not do a cost benefit analysis of going on this interview with Tucker Carlson. Because if he did, he would knew knew he would have known he would lose, and it the the cost was way higher than what he was gonna get out of it. And, again, he's now he's only playing to a sliver of people who are on board with Israel, their genocidal regime, and, them starting wars. Mhmm. That that's not again, that's not the MAGA base that I know. That's not the MAGA base I see. And in fact, that's not Steve Bannon. That's not the that's that's not Tucker Carlson, Marjorie Taylor Greeno. That's not Candace Owens. That that's, 

not Dave Smith. That's just, some of the the some some freaks. It's APAC. That's what it is. And I think that that that was another part of that interview that was so telling me Go ahead and pull it is also, I think, one of the phrases used in the Diddy transcripts at his parties. I'm not sure. I I have two more clips. So we do have, like, a block, but it'll come after the thank yous in a minute. And, we'll play that right before September clues. Thank you, Scott, for the reminder because, yeah, we gotta work in, like, the 

the origin of the title of this episode has to be played somewhere during the episode. Otherwise, you have to wait till next week, and then it doesn't work as well. Anyway, it's been a lot of fun tonight. And, look, camera one, I'm missing one of my lights, so I had to, like, put the light in the middle tonight because the other one wasn't working. And I was trying to make it all nice and, like, usual. Like, it looks like the grand grand theft world set. Right? But, it's definitely in a different place. There's windows all around in here, so now I'm liking the fishbowl effect. So I'm gonna keep using this. I like this camera right now for tonight. 

And, I'm gonna turn it over to, to Scott so he could plug his his prodigious productions, and then we'll go to Colby for thank yous. There you go. Well, thank you guys so much. It's just always an honor and a pleasure to be here. It's just been so cool. Like, getting all these awesome guests on, like, I just feel I just love the way the show is going, the direction the show is going. It feels good. So good to have Charlie here. Like, you know, Grand Theft World is like the greatest show in the world. I hope you guys share it. I hope you guys get value out of it. I hope you guys support the show, 

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if I can find it. I lost my place here. Alright. So on Rockfin, we had a hundred dollars from Camilla Soul in memory of Kiki Camarena and Rachel Carey, And then, Corey. Thank you. And then we had also twenty dollars from school school free gun zone, says Massey is greater than Trump. Sorry for not sorry. Well, I'm surprised that you could read that mathematical symbol for greater than because I still have to drive the little alligators 

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from various TV stations that are all at the same time live with hundred thousand dollar cameras on helicopters that usually looks perfect. But on nine eleven, everything's gone awry for some reason. Almost like the the bad guys with the box cutters got into the Hamas controlled media agencies, and they just they did a sigh op on people. Anyway, before we can get to that, we have a clip of Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes. And Nikki is, calling out Alex on the Palantir situation, and Alex is maybe take like, some people are like, Alex is covering up from Palantir. I don't think so. I think Alex is just saying, look. Palantir is just Palantir is just one part of a big globalist deep state, and there are many other organizations that are more sizable and behemoth like, 

like my former employer, EMC, which is now a little company called Dell. Right? Those types of companies have a lot of weight out there. It's not just the AI companies because all the big companies are doing AI now. So, anyway, Palantir is a spy technology. It's being focused on Americans. It's not good. So just because I'm agreeing with Fuentes in this case doesn't mean I agree with him on all the things he says. Again, just because I think there might be more to it than Alex is laying out right there, he might have had other he might have a dentist appointment later in the day. Right? So, again, I don't need to rush to judgment, also the name of a fine book. 

I can internalize the evidence. I can consider it. I can process it. I can weigh it. I can compare it. This is called thinking, by the way. So I don't have to react to something when I see it. So I want you to see these clips. They're offered in good faith. So you're gonna see, Palantir with Alex and Nick, but we're also gonna go back in time to the year nineteen ninety five. We're gonna look at Alex beginning of his career. And I want you to see that, like, I've been watching Alex, I don't know, twenty years, twenty five years at this point. 

He has, in many ways, remained the same person. He has, in the opposite equal and opposite way, he has stood up against these people, and they've tried their best to crush him, and they still can't. He's on the air. I want you to see if you don't if you're not familiar, if you're like a Johnny come lately Infowars person, which is fine, you gotta have a red pill at some point, I want you to know that that man has been doing this stuff for, like, thirty years. And when he was doing it in the nineties on cable access, like, he took Wayne's World seriously. 

He's like, I could have my own show. You know? And he did. He he went out and confronted city people and state people, and eventually, he he got a bigger stage. So I want you to take this all, with a grain of salt, you know, to take it for consideration. Let it marinate. You don't have to rush a judgment on anything. Also a good book. You should read it. And, then, we'll go to the Simon Shack September clues. So I'd like to thank you all at this point in the new studio, which at some point I could rearrange, but why try to recreate the wheel when you're on a deadline to get a show done and not make excuses? So I just set it up the same way I had it at the other spot. I'd like to thank you guys all for tuning in and not dropping out. Here's two clips of Alex Jones 

and one documentary by Simon Schack, may not be his real name, to play us out. Thank you, Colby, for, making making sure the autopilot lands, and Scott and I are gonna parachute out. I will watch this while I continue to do some things around here, and I will see you guys next week hopefully with two lights and not just one light. And then I could use this camera, and I could use this camera, and it'll be all framed up for this cam. I'll fix it. I'll fix it because I have a week to do it. Alright. See you guys. Peace. So we just did a full segment on this, 

Trump taps Palantir to compile data on Americans. And, in response to this, I thought I would show you this video here to show some of the, some of the awkwardness at Infowars when, Nick Fuentes. This was about a month ago, but I think this is, worth showing, right now. So so this is why I said what did I say? I say Alex Jones is the jank uger of conspiracy theorists. Right? He has a real conspiracy guy here. Nick Fuentes on, who starts going off about about Palantir 

and JD Vance, and, that's off brand. That's off brand. So things get kinda awkward. You know, Palantir, all these new generation defense contractors, they're all over unit eighty two hundred. They're all over Ehud Barak over there in Israel. It's it's filled with shadowy corporations that are funneling their technology into our country. We're gonna trust them in our Well, I'll say this about Palantir. It's all really the hot thing to say it runs everything, and it's so big. It's tiny compared to the other AI companies and defense stuff. It is trying to make a run at getting a bunch of big contracts. 

And and so I and and so I'm not defending what it does. My point is compared to all these other big companies, it's tiny, and that's why you see the left attacking it a bunch too. So I see a weird alliance with kind of the anti Israel folks and the left with the Muslims and and and, like, Palantir Palantir. It's it's the big thing. I mean, its contracts are tiny compared to the other stuff. But what Palantir is is a privatization of the surveillance state. They work for the CIA. They come from the CIA. Oh, but what I've seen is Palantir has been trying to reform the government contracting process. Oh, is that right? Oh. They're the performers. Oh, that's that's the spin. Okay. That's what we're going with. Okay. They're gonna they're trying to reform the government contract. Trying to make it more competitive and more efficient, but what they're doing is they're funneling all of our data into the government. Clearview AI is part of that suite. They ripped everybody's faces off of Facebook. Their Palantir is involved in Gaza doing facial recognition so they know which Palestinians to blow up with drones. And JD Vance is the protege of Peter Thiel, who's the cofounder of Palantir. 

That's like George Bush all over again. That's like George Bush, head of CIA, being Reagan's vice president. That's what Whitney Webb said. Right? Or or was it Whitney Webb? What what no. It was one of the other tweets in the last segment. They said this is all Bush era infrastructure. This is all post nine eleven infrastructure. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. She and we we talked to her about that when we had her on Jimmy's. Yeah. They decided to start outsourcing stuff in order to evade constitutional protections that a government agency would be subject to. Exactly. Exactly. So you don't like man? I think man is awesome. Oh, I think he's terrible. I I don't I don't first of all, I think he's fake. Everything about him is fake. His name's fake. His venture capital career is fake. His, his story's fake. He's a fake marine. He's a fake populist A fake marine? Fake he did press releases. He wrote press releases. Alright. You know, let's load a conversion. Let's get this guy. Back in here. Yeah. Whenever book this guy, I'm gonna eat your fucking liver on the break. 

And news release Well, I mean, he was over in Iraq. He never said he was a war hero. Oh, he wasn't in combat, but he makes But he's not like senator Blumenthal that was never out of the country and said he was in combat in Vietnam. He ran the Toys for Tots program at the senate. I mean, I hold on. No. He's not like the Democrat who was worse. I I know Vance. I followed him. He's always said, well, I was just over there in the press. I don't know what the real heroes. And and and but he was he was in Iraq. But he's over there the other week doing a photoshoot where he's shooting guns at hoorah, acting like he's some kind of combatant. He was a journalist in the morning. He just wrote the letter. Here. I still owe eight hundred billion dollars 

to the parents of Sandy Hook, and, I'm completely dependent on this cabal for my daily bread. Shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up right now, Nick. Shut the fuck up. Do you see the panic on my face? Take a hint and shut the fuck up. Exactly. This is what these people Hold on a minute. Hold on. So if you go out and shoot guns, you're being a poser now? And if you're I think he's a serious poser. Yeah. I think he's Really? Seem like he's some kind of Yeah. He was like, tampon Tim, did you put shotguns in the back of the shotgun? I think so. Yeah. I think that's I don't think that's fair. Well He does He's never said he was a a combat marine. He might not have said that, but I think that's sort of the end. Do do people know that he was writing press releases, or do they think that he's some kind of a marine, that he was doing missions or I think he's creating the perception that he's out there fighting bad guys or something. He was writing press 

No. He's just trying to figure out what he's gonna do. He's trying to figure out how to get out of this. He's so expressive. The thing about Alex Jones, this is what makes him gold to watch. He's everything about him is just so expressive. Look at this expression. That he was writing press releases, or did they think that he's some kind of a marine, that he was doing missions? I think he's creating the perception that he's out there fighting bad guys or something. He was writing press No. I mean, I think, DHS had known as commando Barbie, but I think she's doing a good job. But she does the same thing. They wear they wear the uniform. They shoot the guns. Hoorah. It's a marine as vice president. Not to mention his name is fake. He he's a venture capitalist, but he never he was a no name is fake. He took his family name. Hamel, Bowman You're Bowman. Vance. His name. Yeah. He changed his name three times. He changed his name to coincide with the release of his book. 

And the book, by the way, he wrote the book under the two diligent David Frum, Neil Khan, speechwriter for George Bush. And I think he did a great job in the debates. I think of Paul. I think he's great. He did good in the debate. He's he's good at talking. I'll give him that, but I I don't trust him. I think he's Alright. Let's go. Alright. Nick Fuentes. You can find him on, what is it? Bitchute, wherever the hell you you are now. Anyway, thanks. Get the hell out. I mean, but that yeah. Because it's red. Yeah. I mean, that is that is the blue pill version of the red pill. That's the janky. That's the t y t of the red pill world. Right? Oh, yeah. No. Palantir, they're a bunch of reformers, 

and JD Vance is a great guy. No. JD Vance is the liaison between MAGA and this really Right. Scary dystopian shit. That's why he's there. That is why he's there. That is his purpose. That's why they needed him. And, man, asset out of containment. That's what they said in the new Jurassic Park when the dinosaur escapes the cave. We have an asset out of containment. That's, that's Nick Fuentes there. Yeah. I Alex Jones is one of these sacred cows, in certain 

segments. You know, when we when we've done, segments mocking Alex Jones. It's one of the there are certain things where, like, you know, you you hit a third rail with these people and they go berserk. I don't understand how this fucking Hulk Hogan impersonator goes on ranting and raving for three hours, and you don't see that he's a performer. He's a performer. He's a con artist and a clown. Oh, he was right about this and that. Dude, 

you talk that much, that many days, you're gonna be right about some shit. Like, nobody's gonna nobody with the resources would ever bother. I would love if somebody did his batting average, average, like, would sit down and listen to ten thousand hours of Alex Jones because I promise you ninety nine percent of what he says is total bullshit. Well, it's a while. You stop clock. You're gonna you you you're gonna you're gonna just law of averages, you're gonna hit on some unlikely thing that you said that actually went ahead and happened. Well and and he's gotten worse since he's branded himself. The worst thing you could do if you're in the news and commentary business is brand yourself 

and make yourself a partisan, make yourself a cheerleader for one side because then you're wed to that, and you can't separate yourself from it without, you know, suffering great economic losses that you can't always afford because you've built the business up to sustain a certain level of activity. And if you lose that, you gotta let people go. You gotta close shop. You don't wanna do that. You know, Alex Jones had never really entertained electoral politics until twenty sixteen when he backed Trump. And, you know, as someone who had followed his work since the loose change documentary, which I already knew most of that stuff before I saw that movie. That's one of the reasons why I kinda got into him because when I was watching the okay. I remember my my college roommate calls me up to his dorm. You gotta watch this movie. I said, what's the movie? He says, nine eleven was an inside job. I said, yeah. I know that, but what's the movie? He says, it's called Let's Change. I said, alright. I'll come up. We'll watch it. And, yeah, so I like so that's how I got to know him. But the point is, I think he was more accurate when he was less branded. Once you brand yourself and you become loyal, I said, look. You make yourself ridiculous. Oh, Palantir or reformer. I mean, come on. This is the You read that book. Struggling struggling 

to get control of the narrative. Exactly. Control of the cast. Just shut down everything that he's saying because, look, he still owes a lot of money on these lawsuits. And, basically, these are his patrons that he's talking about. Right. That whole Palantir world, they're the ones who are sustaining him now. Right. Exactly. The whole PayPal mafia, that's his that's his, bread and butter. Right. Exactly. Please clap. As the sun sets here in South Austin, 

hypocrisy still continues. And hypocrisy is dangerous because fire is the outcome of this, total hypocrisy. And the will editor in the name of Piguac. And they're at fifteenth Waller Street in this decaying federal building with weeds and bugs hopping around everywhere, a hundred times worse. I mean, look at all that that stuffing it. Look up there in the building, all those bureaucrat files they've got on us, all the harassment and kickbacks that go on. Lord knows the glee that's engaged in. And business is always booming. There's always an expanding populace of search to squeeze 

and squeeze and drive them into utter submission. Yes. That's kind of their view on things. Oh, but look, there always is a a a a silver lining in every cloud. There's a little birdie living in the government building, so I guess it's okay. It's for the children. Loving tires, but that's not a big deal. Look at the look at the fiberglass and metal. Garbage and filters. At bestest probably. Oh, it's so right wing. 

Of course. I'm illustrating I'm sorry about being assert. Hillary on the air. Another government training center, Duke. They've taught you how to be cool. The cool person goes and never thinks. And the guy that gets all the girls is the fool, you know, who wears the cool clothes. He doesn't care about politics. You know, that, oh, baby, let's party. Yeah. I don't care about that, oh, baby, let's party. Yeah. I don't care about my future or my kid's future or the world's future. I'm a caring person. I like Bill Clinton a lot. Woo hoo. 

You're so cool. You're so nice. He knows what to do. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But anyways, like I if you don't This is unbelievable. The Delta Force is coming back. Not some foggy conspiracy theory like Judge Eleshire likes to go and tell his little pomps and friends. Of course, Eleshire's on the telephone right now, disrespectful minions. Now, stop the Delta Force. Call your commissioner. They'll act like you're crazy. They'll act like you're nuts, but tune in and see the chief police. See Stephen Berry, former Delta Force commander. 

See it and hear it all for yourselves tonight at nine thirty on channel ten. Sir, you let others go farther. I'm telling you, Lshire, I've tried to back down and be nice and just say, well, they're, you know, they're just bureaucrats. But you wanna go right and bad mouth me on the radio and stuff? I'm gonna counter you. This is reality, not conspiracy. It's not funny, Elshire. I'm gonna be supporting you and defending you. Don't you understand the veneer of civilization is very thin, El Shire? Very, very thin, El Shire. 

You don't have a mandate. You are a liar. You're lying to the public. It's disgusting. Thank you, sir. Thank you, El Shire, for subverting the constitution. Stop the Delta Force. Stop them next And if you're not gonna get on America's statement's butt, then it got to be the truth. They telling us the truth. Why isn't all the local TV stations telling us that these people coming here to train? What somebody's hiding somebody 

something. No. That's right. Come out with it. I'm sorry. Don't mean no disrespect, but don't wanna be disrespected. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Good job. Okay. Hit pause. Hit pause. Guys you're seeing out of control behavior. Did you hear the cop? Turn the video camera off. I'm just doing my job, I'm just stuffing Jews in the gas chamber. 

I'm just doing my job, it's my orders. Turn your camera off, I'm just doing my job. You you hear that punk? That so called peace officer, that law enforcer for the UN, that dumbass? I'm up against police ladies and gentlemen, but I've had my fill. I'm a law abiding citizen and you get it straight right now criminals. That was a an American you saw out there. Action. Taking action. 

You're the criminals and I'm calling you a criminal right now, Kirk Watson. You are a criminal. Bridget Shea, you're a criminal. Darryl Flusher, you're a criminal. You are criminals. My name is Alexander e Jones. Get the name straight. I'm doing well in life. I'm on six AM FM, 

thousands of micro broadcasting stations and the second biggest shortwave station in the country. From AM to FM to shortwave to the Internet. I'm all over it baby and I'll put it all at risk. I'm coming after you. You get that straight. Shannon Burke, a radio host in town, a good friend of mine. We got huge arguments on the air about it. He now is so angry, he's coming after you too. We're coming after you. You deserve it. Stealing from our people. 

Take this in an abstract concept or in a sense, possessed by negative spirits, if you want to speak, if you want to use those terms. And essentially what they do is they create these instances which amplify this negative and evil energy across the world. And and they're very skillful at it. It's been going on for thousands and thousands of years. Secret brotherhoods that have been passed down rights and, and holding back knowledge. And I wanna say one thing to them. I stand against you. Thank you, Alex. Thank you very much. 

Society is to blame, not the kids who are incarcerated. That's what I said. It's a problem. Yeah. But you were saying, you said earlier, those kids, they should be locked up for forty or fifty years. Yeah. Why? Because you have to They are victims. Do you know why these They are victims. K. Well, sir, I spent enough time on you. I appreciate your call. Let me explain something to you. The kids hear this victimology. They hear it from their school counselors. That's why it's exploding. They're getting off. That's why they're doing it. Plus, we give it all this attention. They feel like they'll be movie stars. They're little animals. 

And once their minds have been destroyed, there's not much helping them. We have to make examples of them. I believe that, Alex. And we need to go to this call in just a second, but I need to make one small comment. And that is, of course, that I think that you have to look at this in one aspect towards I don't know why I get I know why you have the television on. No. It's not coming through here. Are you done? It's completely down. No. The point is is that is that you have to look at the at this situation also with a compassionate angle. You have to look at those kids and know that somewhere along the line, they got screwed up. And yes, they're gonna pay for it in a millions of ways. And I don't think that you and I are the kind of people that that have the ability or the right to judge on them and say that that they're gonna go to jail for fifty years, etcetera. 

Look, but the question A three year old girl and bashed her head in. I say you blow their heads off in public. Okay? Okay. Well, then we we disagree. I'd Look right there. Look at it. It's a camera. I'm a real face scanner camera. Look at the face scanning camera. Look. Me? Part of living in Russia. Welcome to Russia. Look at this woman, Alex. 

Right here. Look at her. Look at her. She was just looking at you like you're crazy. Yes. We're evil. We're pointing out the cameras. We should be in a FEMA camp. Yeah. They claim it's for traffic, but it's looking at the national security issue. And it's a face mask camera that recognizes your face. Look at it. It's Russia. From Russia with Love right there. 

Are you a volunteer? Hey, Alex. Go. It's your showroom. Yeah. Hey, Cameron. What's up? Alex Jones. How you doing? Alex Jones. What show do you have? Just a little cable show every Thursday on channel ten. Okay. How channel ten? Hey. Have you seen the face scanning camera? What? You like living in Russia? I don't know. Yeah. Look right there. 

Face scanning camera. It knows who you are. Yeah. Face I like it. You like it? Yeah. New America, man. Yeah. Yeah. Drop some black uniforms, skiing, man. Brother, man. Disarmed populations? Yeah. Alright. Hey. You know, the prison population's gone from one point three million to six point five million last two years. Is that good news? Oh, oh, he's talking. You like that? Sure. Yeah. Oh, fuck that. You have the capacity. You have the will. You have got to do it. 

Come on. Listen. Listen to me. They've taught you not to believe in anything. They've taught you to never come to a decision. They've taught you to never believe in anything concrete and solid. Meanwhile, you're rudderless out there and they're driving forward towards a human boot as Orwell said or towards a boot stomping on the human face. Come on. Directive decision twenty five. I've warned you about it. They're getting ready. Hoarding of food can get you in a labor camp. 

This is history. Come on. Get involved. I'll see you Monday night for the Freedom Report. Nine o'clock. Do you hear me? But anyways, I'm sorry. Well, on another subject about this Oklahoma City thing You understand? I'm I'm I'm copying Kirk Watson. Right. Right. Okay. On this Oklahoma City that. Yeah. There might be a government conspiracy or government It'd be awesome if we had Butt Head do the narration. 

Quincy, can you see are you on the north side there where the the plane made contact? Yes, I am. There where the the plane made contact? But I'd say the huge the hold is let me just get a better look right now. 

Okay. Go ahead. The, I'd say the hold takes about that's our six, seven floors were taken out, and there's more six floors right now. Hold on. People are rushing. Hold on just a moment. We got an explosion inside. The battery's exploding right now. You got people running up the street. Okay. I don't know what's going on. Okay. Just, put put put Winston on pause there for just a moment. The building's exploding right now. You got people running up the street. Okay. I don't know what to tell what's going on. Okay. Just, put put Winston on pause there for just a moment. 

I understand Theresa Renault is with us right now. Miss Renault, good morning. Good morning. How are you? This is Bryant Gumble. I'm down on, fifty ninth and fifth. Where are you? I am in Chelsea, and we are at at eighth and sixteenth. We are the tallest building in the area, and we my window faces south, so it looks directly on to the World Trade Center. And I would say, you know, approximately ten minutes ago, there was a major explosion from probably it looks like about the eightieth floor. It looks like explosion from probably, it looks like about the eightieth floor. It looks like it's affected probably 

four to eight floors. Major flames are coming out of the, let's see, the north side and also the east side of the building. Yes. You're you're over in Chelsea. Did you hear the explosion from your position? Yes. We did. As a matter of fact, we we heard it and and because I was just, like, standing there pretty much looking out the window. I didn't see what caused it or if there was an impact. So you have no idea right right now? Another one. Another plane just hit. 

Right? Oh my god. Another plane has just hit. It hit another building full right into the middle of it. Explosion. As you look at the picture from our chopper now arriving at the scene, 

Jim Friedel in Hoboken, said it appeared to back sharply and smash directly, perhaps purposefully, into oh my goodness. Oh god. There's another one. Oh. Oh my goodness. There's another one. This seems to be on purpose. Oh my goodness. Now you plane? Now it's obvious, I think, that, there's a second plane just crashed into the World Trade Center. I think we have a terrorist act of proportions that we cannot begin to imagine at this juncture. 

Oh my god. My goodness. A second plane now has crashed into the other tower of the World Trade Center. Obviously, suicide, terrorist attack Absolutely. The world drains it. Oh my goodness. Oh, god. 

Into oh my goodness. And then as as we were watching the live picture here in the studio, 

we saw a plane crash into the crash into the other tower of the World Trade Center. And again, let's, just to be sure, there it is. There it is. The plane went right through the other tower of the World Trade Center. That is a very hard thing to watch. Just wait. To be sure to There it is. Oh, goodness. There it is. The plane went right through 

the other towers of the World Trade Center. To be That is a very hard thing to watch. To be sure fit. There it is. There it is. The plane went right through. To help people. And you have to wonder. You hear about trades, 

number seven in trouble right now. And then what does that lead to? Have you seen any any evidence, Elliot, of of people being taken out of the building? You say that emergency vehicles are there, understandably so, but understandably so, but of course the major concern is human loss. I mean, do you know if there were many people in the building? Oh, another one just hit. Something else just hit. A very large plane just flew directly over my building. 

Over my building, and there's been another collision. Can you see it? I can see it on the shot. Oh my Something else has just hit that We just saw a plane circling the building. We just saw a plane circling the building. No doubt a lot of activity on the ground right now. And, in terms of the firefighting capabilities when you get up up to this high level, I assume the firefighters have got to get up there 

and, you know, fight it from inside. Oh, if you're taking a look now, you can see that we've just had another explosion, and that is very lower. And is that in the other building? Is that what I'm witnessing? Something that made it clear that the first plane wasn't an accident. 

When it too is hijacked. 

This, the actual plane, as it hits the South tower of the World Trade Center. Eight ten AM, American flight seventy seven, a seven fifty seven with sixty four aboard, has taken off from Washington's Dulles Airport, also bound for Los Angeles. It too, taken over and loops back into the Pentagon. It slices in at an angle, leaving a deadly and ugly gash. Two United Airlines flights were hijacked today and that the attack planes were the hijacked domestic flights. 

Roughly twenty one minutes later, approximately nine zero three eastern time, the second large jetliner can be seen Uncertainty right now as to what is happening. You can see there are choppers. I believe that could be a police helicopter that is oh. Wow. We just saw Oh my goodness. Another another live picture right now. Oh my goodness. Of what I believe was a place. 

We're gonna rerack the tape here and see if we can't see, 

a plane. Yeah. We see it right now. Saw this plane, the jet, American Airlines jet coming, and I thought, this doesn't add up. It's really low. 

And, and I saw it. It just went I mean, it was like a a cruise missile with wings. When I woke up, I saw the jet banking, and, clearly, you could see the AA on the side. I knew it was an American Airlines jet. And, it went into a steep decline and accelerated. Boom. Right into the Pentagon, the side of the Pentagon. And the and the wings on the jet just folded back, and it just kinda crumpled. It it kind of came together like an accordion, and it just pierced 

the wall of the Pentagon, and there's this Boom. Hi there. My name is Mike Walter. I work at WUSA Channel nine in Washington, DC. And there's been a lot written on the Internet about me and what I witnessed and saw on September eleven, two thousand and one. And so I'm here to set the record straight. One of the other things that's talked about, on the Internet is the fact that, I witnessed it as did a number of other people from USA Today. And, one of the things I've seen written is, oh, well, what was going on? Were all the USA Today people gathering for a picnic at the Pentagon? 

You should probably know that the Pentagon at the time was located about nine minutes away from USA Today's headquarters in Rosslyn. It's since moved out to, Tysons Corner, but at the time, it was the way that we all went to work each day. We drove by the Pentagon, so it was a common sight for us. One of the things that really bothers me is the fact that, people constantly are calling me and emailing me and want information about this, and I'm happy to talk to them. But a lot of them say that, well, you know, physics just says that this is impossible what happened. But what happened is pretty obvious. 

The force of this jet hitting the Pentagon at about five hundred miles an hour, when something hits a concrete structure like that, you know, this belief that the wings would go in is just ridiculous. What I saw was the actual jet going in, but the wings folded back like this. So that's why when you look at the hole, you say, well, it's not big enough. Well, that's why. The wings were not strong enough to withstand the impact. They folded back, and that's why the jet went in, and that's why the hole that you see isn't as large as you might imagine in another structure. 

Basically, the only reason why I'm doing this is because over the last five years, I've been getting a lot of phone calls, emails, and and my words have been twisted. And I figure if you're going to the Internet for information, go and find the right information. One other suggestion, keep an open mind, but always try and get the facts. You know, it it it might have appeared that way, but from my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. The only site, is the actual, 

side of the building that's crashed in. And as I said, the only pieces left, that you can see are are small enough that you could pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, a fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around, which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon. Nine eleven. Jamie, it's finally been released. Yes. That's right, Kira. This is, again, a more complete version of the six still frame images that CNN obtained unofficially back in March of two thousand and two and broadcast then. The full tape has been something the government has been holding, 

as evidence in the trial of, Zacharias Moussaoui. But now that that trial is over, they've released, the full video, and the video, which runs for, a minute or so, shows what happens just before the impact and also, the plane coming into the building. It's from two separate, cameras, both at the same location at a Pentagon checkpoint entrance. And it's hard to see as we're playing it here. It's sort of stop action video. Again, very similar to the still frames we saw before. But when you, run the video back and stop it, at one point you can see what appears to be the nose of the plane just entering the frame. The very next frame there's an explosion. And then in the second angle, which is just taken from another camera a little bit lower down, 

you can see, what appears to be a white flash that also looks like the plane. But again, it's not gonna be distinct enough to convince conspiracy theorists. It's not gonna be distinct enough to convince conspiracy theorists. It's not gonna gonna be distinct enough to convince but, for anyone with any common sense and, given all the other evidence we have, there's really no doubt that a plane hit the Pentagon. Approximately eight forty five Eastern Standard Time, a plane crashes to one of the towers of the World Trade Center in New York. 

Some eighteen minutes later, television Trade Center tower. Mister Kallstrom, are you able to see these pictures? 

Yes. Mister Kallstrom? Yes. I am a. Were you the Moscito? I was able to see that. Yes. As you watch that, as you've seen that, I hear the anger builds, doesn't it? It does. It certainly does build. And I mean, it's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. I mean, we're trained in many ways, both of Again, let's just 

look at this scene. This is amateur video, the plane coming, and now. I was standing here talking with a couple of people and then I heard the jet. It was very low. It came right over through here and then it made a slight twist and dove right into the building. It was, a medium sized passenger airliner. What? Could not identify the markings on it. They're not gonna be like stubbing actually shot out of the other side of the building. Not the whole plane, but pieces of it flew out the other side. 

Yeah. If you cut cut on the whole right side, that that would be a wing that shed that off. Yeah. You could see it. You can see from the gut. It just No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No Emergency vehicles are there, understandably 

so, but but but but but but but but but That was a united it looked like I swear it looked like a united airplane that crashed into the side of The the one that just came in now? Yes. 

That was a united it looked like I swear, it looked like a united airplane that crashed into the side of The one that just came in now? I got outside 

and was shooting. The second plane circled around and it flew out of New Jersey and then it came in and just What what what what's all this shit? I just fucked the plane Something that made it clear that the first plane wasn't an accident. 

Sally's on the raft. 

Oh my god. 

Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. What's happening? Oh my god. ABC's Don Daylor who is on the scene. Don, just give me some description again of what you're, what you can see now. 

What we're seeing, it appears that the there is more and more fire and smoke enveloping the very top of the building. And as fire crews are descending on this area, it it does not appear that there's any kind of, an effort up there yet. Now remember oh my god. Oh my god. My god. That looks like a second plane. There was How did that see a plane go in? That that just exploded. ABC's Don Taylor from the on the scene, Don. Just give me some of the script that you 

can see now. Vanished point from Oh, where's this Aiken? Oh, where's this Aiken? Oh, where's this Aiken? That in a Peter's fifty, there is four hundred pirates enveloping the very top of the building. Jim Frieda and fire crew said it appeared to be on the barrier. Sharply and smashed it directly. It does not appear that there's any kind of an effort up there yet. Now remember Oh my god. Goodness. Oh my god. There's another one. 

Which building are we talking about? The one that's west? ABC's Don Daylor who is on the scene. Don, just give you some description again. It's coming out on the north side and the east side of the building in the westernmost house. Overstreet. Overstreet. Overstreet. You're you're over in Chelsea. Did you hear the explosion in your position? Yes. We did. As a matter of fact, we we heard it and I'm sitting on this area. Because I was just standing there pretty much looking out the window. I just see what caused it or any kind of effort up there yet. Never seen it. Oh my god. Another 

one. Another plane just hit. That looks like a second plane. Another plane has just hit. That's not a problem. Another building. Flew right into the middle of it. Explosion. From what you can see. Right. Now can we see if there's a lot of debris downstairs, Winston? What you're seeing now? No. Because it looks like it's it's invert with the impact. What he's trying to build more and more I'm sorry. The only thing that that came out very top of the, the outside on is fire crews. But I'd say the huge The whole is it's a good better look right now. 

It's it's just not clear that there's any kind of When they are up there, yes, remember. The area is swarmed with emergency vehicles, and sirens. Have you Obviously, we're very sensitive to this kind of thing in this neighborhood. Elliot, have you, of course, because of the incident that occurred in the early nineteen nineties, 

The incident that occurred the incident that occurred because of the incident that occurred in the early nineteen nineties. More and more fire. Of course, the major concern is seeing a loss. I mean, do you know if there were many people in the building? Oh, another one just hit. And, unfortunately, here 

in New York, many of our stations cannot see this local station because the antennas are on the World Trade Center. They're backup towers on the Empire State Building. But communication television communication in New York City is probably pretty much knocked off the air. Obviously, 

suicide, terrorist attack Absolutely. On the World Trade Center. What we have what we have been hearing number five. Anybody on? What we have been fearing, for the longest time here apparently has come to pass a disastrous terrorist attack. That is once again a picture 

of one of the towers of the World Trade Center. A private aircraft. It I'm not sure if it was a it just seemed like a smaller plane. I don't think it was anything commercial. This angle is a little deceptive. As you know, there are two trade center towers. The shot that we've got is now just from one side of the World Trade Center. Here is near the upper floor as you can probably see with your chopper shots. 

I was walking down sixth Avenue this morning at eight forty two AM. A group of us saw a plane figure through the building, then we saw a huge cloud of It does not appear that there's any kind of, an effort up there yet. Now remember, oh my god. Oh my god. 

Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh Oh my god. Oh my god. That looks like a second plane. Damn. Oh, I didn't see a plane go in. That that just exploded. And then about a half an hour later, 

just as, emergency crews were converging on the scene as, eyewitnesses were gathering on the street corners, a second plane drove into, and you can see that plane coming around the building. Right now, in this cape and there, you can see the hit as it comes through what looked to me at least, and this is the first time I've seen that tape. Look. You wanna be careful here. We don't wanna get too far ahead of this, but, obviously, 

this has all the appearances of an extraordinarily well coordinated and devastating terrorist attack. Right now, we've got Sean Mertaj. He is a CNN producer on the telephone right now. Sean, what can you tell us about what you know? This is, Sean Murtaugh, vice president of finance. 

Hello? Yes, Sean. You're on the air right now. Can what go ahead. What can you tell us? I I just witnessed a plane that appeared to be cruising, slightly lower than normal at altitude over New York City, and it appears to have crashed into, I don't know which tower it is, but it hit directly in the middle of, one of the World Trade Center towers. Sean, what kind of plane? Was it a small plane? A a jet? It was a, it was a jet. It looked like a two engine jet, maybe a seven thirty seven. You're talking about a large passenger commercial jet? Large passenger commercial jet. 

It's believed the seven thirty seven has crashed into this speculation at this point, but at least three floors taken out crashed into the side of the building. Joining us right now, one of the producers with FOX report, Owen Moogan, on the scene. Owen, what do you know? What do you see? Where are you? Yeah. Brian, I'm on the roof of my building, which is about five blocks to the south of the World Trade Center. I'm looking I'm looking right now at the World Trade Center. There's a massive gaping hole, on the second tower. It's it's just unbelievable to look at. There's a massive hole. It it it looks like something out of a movie. There's a huge hole in the side of tower number one. 

One. Owen, your your apartment is just a few blocks from it. Did you hear anything? I was lying dead. All of a sudden, I heard what sounded like, a plane or something coming extremely low, and then we just heard this shattering explosion that was sent to the roof and we're confronted by this. Gonna interrupt myself and everybody else for a second because one of our senior producers, Mark Obenhaus, is on the phone and he saw the incident. Mark, do you hear me? I do indeed, Peter. Go ahead. Well, I was leaving my house, to go to work, and I walked down the street to go to the subway. I was at the corner of Franklin and West Broadway. 

And as I was approaching the subway, the tremendous roar, went over my head, and and I looked up immediately, and it was a plane, and much lower than I've ever seen a plane in lower Manhattan. And it was a large plane. I couldn't identify it as anything specific except that it was a commercial jet, certainly. And it it then my eyes followed it because this is approximately fifteen blocks from the World Trade Center, and it it just slammed right into it and was completely engulfed 

by the by the building. It was extraordinary. No no wings flew off, nothing like that. It just went directly in creating this sort of cavern like hole. It reminds you of the worst kind of effects in movies that, you know, you're reassured watching a movie that it's an effect, but this is not. Well, Mark, you and I were supposed to have a meeting not long from now. We'd prefer you to go and work the story if you would and call us back as we can indeed. Many thanks. Mark Openhaus, one of our senior producers on the phone who saw the incident, describes it as a large plane. Okay. We actually have an eyewitness news reporter, doctor Jay Adlersberg, who is downtown at the time, and he is on the phone with us live. Doctor Jay, what can you tell us? Hello, Steve. 

I'm actually uptown at eighty six then Riverside. I can see the World Trade Center from about half the building, up to the top. And about five minutes ago, as I was watching the smoke, a small plane, I it looked like a propeller plane came in from the west, and, about twenty or twenty five stories below the top of the center, it disappeared for a second and then exploded, 

behind a water tower. So I couldn't tell whether it hit the building or not, but it was very visible that a plane had come in, at a low altitude. Oh, okay. And appeared to crash into the, World Trade Center. Mark Bernback, a Fox employee, is on the phone with us. Mark, witnessed this from what we understand. Mark, were you close enough to be able to see any markings on on the airplane? Gentlemen. How you doing? Yeah. There was, there was definitely a blue logo. It was like a circular logo on the front of the plane, towards the, yeah, definitely towards the front. 

It definitely did not look like a commercial plane. I didn't see any windows on the sides. And as far as I knew, when I saw it coming coming down, I was like, well, Nagoya is pretty far away, and that plane is really slow and, definitely very low. And, I'm completely panicked. I'm afraid you're freaking out. I can't believe what I just saw. We are all shaken by this. We Some of the key suspects come to mind, Osama bin Laden. Who knows who knows what? Eric Sean is with us. Eric, I know you have a lot of sources at the FBI and other agencies like that. 

What can you tell us well first I apologize for being out of breath because I was walking down fifth Avenue which is close to our studios and I heard a jet perhaps a seven thirty seven or a small Airbus flying low unusually low over Fifth Avenue making a right I'm not going to say I don't know I don't have any reports on what type of plane hit the World Trade Center but people looked up and it made a right toward the toward the building John what we just saw though obviously if that indeed was a second 

aircraft that hit the the southern tower of the World Trade Center that obviously raises the specter of an intentional terrorist attack here if we're if that is indeed what we are looking at I don't know what the reports say of what type of plane hit hit the air the tower, but I did see a jet airliner that was fairly low. Tell us what you saw, if you would. I literally I was waiting a table, and I literally saw a it seemed to be like a small plane. I just heard a couple noises. It looked like it, like, bounced off the building, and then I heard a I just saw a huge, 

like, ball of fire on top. And then the smoke seemed to simmer down, and it just, you know, a lot of smoke was coming out, and that's pretty much the extent of what I saw. We are going to join one of another one of our New York affiliates, WABC, for their live coverage. Train overhead. And then all of a sudden, I I thought it sounded kinda lot, louder that I looked up, and all of a sudden, it smashed right dead into the center of the World Trade Center. It almost looks like the plane probably went through. I'm not sure. Winston, can you see are you on the north side there where the the plane made, contact? Yes. I am. There where the the plane made, contact? 

The mid the plane there were the MIT the play made, contact. We also have Don Daylor on the phone, and, you know, he's been with us on Good Morning America for a long time. And Don, where are you and what do you know? I am about four or five blocks just north of the World Trade Center. And, at about ten I would say ten minutes ago, fifteen minutes ago, there was a loud sound that I can only describe as it sounded like a missile, not an airplane. 

Then there was a loud explosion and immediately lots of screaming out on the streets. And I don't wanna cause any speculation, but that's the only way I could describe the sound. And it and it was It was pretty heavily banked, may maybe forty five degrees. I it is again, hard to hard to tell. It was kind of unremarkable because you do see planes fly through here. It's just it was a large plane, like a seven twenty seven. And, that's the only reason I kept looking, and then it went right into the building. I just thought it was gonna fall to the river and keep on going, but it didn't. 

Now after the plane struck the building, from your vantage point, it apparently went directly inside. That's correct. Jim, I I don't know whether we confirmed that this was an aircraft or to be more specific. Some people said they thought they saw a missile. I don't know how people could dis differentiate, but we might be moping the possibility that this was a missile attack, on these buildings. Ali, I must say that, we have an eyewitness who said it was a large plane that crashed first. And then as as we were watching the live picture here in the studio, 

we saw a plane crash into the crash into the other tower of the World Trade Center. And again, let's, just to be sure, there it is. There it is. The plane went right through the other tower of the World Trade Center. That is a very hard thing to watch. Jane, you said you saw the first plane. Could did you get a a glimpse of what kind of plane that was? We were told it was a small commuter plane. Well, it it looked it wasn't a Cessna or anything like that. It was a larger plane, a midsize plane, 

and we could hear it very loud. And We heard a very loud, sound, the kind of sound you hear when a plane is is, you know, going fast past you, followed by an enormous crash, and an immediate explosion. I don't think we could feel shock waves, but we we sort of felt like we did. People in the building? Oh, another one just hit. Something else just hit. A very large plane just flew directly over my building and there's been another collision. Can you see it? I can see on this shot. 

Many people in the building Oh, another one just hit. 

Circled around and it flew out of New Jersey and then it came in and just 

oh, fuck. All this shit. Charlie and I have been talking this morning about the near impossibility it would seem that now two years after the attack, there would be new video of what happened that day. But right now, we wanna show you something. We have new footage obtained 

exclusively by ABC News. You're about to see what we believe is the only known videotape that has recorded both hijacked jets striking the towers. Here, let's look. We take you back to September eleventh, two years ago, just seconds before the attacks on the World Trade Towers. An immigrant named Pavel Khava is recording a video postcard that's in riding in an SUV approaching the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel. He captures a glimpse of the first plane going into the North Tower, but he doesn't know it. 

Then he goes into the tunnel, emerging from the tunnel, fixing his camera on the towers again, catching the second plane. It was only weeks later that he realized he had captured that first plane going into the North Tower. In fact, his son almost accidentally erased the tape. Here, you can just see American flight eleven as it approaches and hits. The second horrifying attack impossible to miss, the sound you hear with the engines of United flight one seventy five only seconds before impact. 

New images of that now indelible day. When the writing's on the wall, You may smell some of the fumes from, a, a missile exhaust. 

Number one suspect has got to be this man, Osama bin Laden. It was not a normal flight that I've ever seen at an airport. It was a plane that had a blue, 

logo on the front, and it just it did not look like it belonged in this area, pretty frankly about it. I can only describe as it sounded like a missile, not an airplane. Some people said they thought they thought a missile. That's the only way I could describe the sound and it and it And it may not yet be over. We do know at this time that at least four targets have been attacked. The two twin trade tower centers here in New York City, the Pentagon, and then another plane that was crashed deliberately 

into an area outside of Pittsburgh. That is the second plane hitting the twin trade towers this morning. Coming in, and this is now in slow motion. Oh, this is terrifying. Awful. There was a gentleman by the name of Ihab Mohammed Ali, and he was a sympathizer, a a, bin Laden backer. 

At nine AM local time, joining us now on the phone from New York is Steve Evans, who was, I believe, in the building at the time. Steve, what can you tell us about what happened this morning? Running away very, very quickly. There are more explosions further down the building. It was calm until we came on the air now, but I'm now looking up at this building. At the moment, it's not really clear whether there was a plane crash or exactly what went on. What's really stick in my mind is 

passing by people and filming them and filming their astonishment. And the eyes saying, this is not happening. Remember tilting the camera back and forth between the people and the tower in front of me. Remember 

tilting the camera back and forth between the people and the tower in front of you. Now within an hour, the twin towers had collapsed. Now unlike most conventional skyscrapers, which have lots of interior columns to give strength to the building, the exterior walls of the World Trade Center bore most of the load. So the direct attacks were enough to weaken the buildings and lead to their collapse. Were enough to weaken the buildings and lead to their collapse. 

Well, South Manhattan down here just behind me. As you can see behind me it's awful. It's the Salomon Brothers building in New York has also collapsed. I need to take a break. Do you have any idea whether or not other buildings in the immediate area are vulnerable at the moment? Whether there's concern about any other building as there was about this additional one after the towers? 

Well, from the angle I'm looking at, we can see one other building still on fire. We have a problem with the pictures there, but what we what we can see is that sections of the other tower are also crumbling. Now the reason this is happening, according to the website for the World Trade Center, they're actually telling us that the structure, the outside cladding of this building is integral to the safety and security of it. Once you penetrate that, apparently, the very structure of the building is under threat, and that's why one tower has already collapsed. Wow. The live picture of the billowing smoke from the collapsing second tower, it is completely, 

enveloped in smoke. It is on fire, and we understand this this other tower is also, in a situation of near collapse. First, one of the twin towers, we understand, has collapsed entirely. We understand the second twin tower, there are also collapses there. We are looking at the live picture of the twin towers in New York. This mass terrorism is the new evil in our world today. It is perpetrated by fanatics who are utterly 

indifferent for the sanctity of human life. Two airplanes have crashed. They have controlled trace in it. Two airplanes have, attacked apparently. What? Alright. Well, then let's get let's let's go north then. Make no mistake. Most who saw and survived this day still had trouble believing what they saw. 

The phrase you heard over and over again was, it seemed just like a movie. It was extraordinary. No no wings flew off. Nothing like that. It just went directly and creating this sort of tavern like hole. It reminds you of the worst kind of effect in movies. It's the towers. Yes. For it appears because of the angle, I think, that the towers 

are leaning, and and I don't think that that is is actually the case. And as Tom ironically points out the weather absolutely perfect, day and day. Tom told us right at the time of the attack, he said. It was sunny and dry the weather, I take it, where you, is just about picture perfect. Picture perfect. Yes. It's very clear outside. You're looking at the World Trade Center in lower Manhattan where just a few minutes ago, we're told that a plane, some reports are that it was a small commuter plane, crashed into the upper floors of one of the twin towers. 

Also collapsed in flames 

that fifty thousand people work in the World Trade Center and witnesses say that they saw In the municipal building, city hall, Gracie Mansion, which is the mayor's residence, all things that could be considered. Horrific scene here. There's, debris flying through the air over the East River here into Brooklyn. Let's go to the trade tower again because John, we now have 

a what do we have? We don't Wow. It looks like a a new plume, a new large plume of smoke. The crash has left fiery, gaping holes in the one hundred and ten story building. 

It looked as if the the left hand the right hand tower was bleeding. 

And now somebody is saying we're getting a witness saying they are leaving. From my view here, from my view here from my view There's the wider shot of the two towers. Now both towers 

have been hit by planes now in the last half hour. And, again I say we are we are totally powerless in knowing what's going on here. Slow motion of the plane coming in and hitting the obscured second tower. This tape of the of the airplane flying in 

and hitting the World Trade Center. What's going on here? Can't be a coincidence like this. I thought we told you. This is no fault on this side. This is, as you pointed the service, it's not There's no two ways about it. 

The perception of life. Little more than that. We do have an eyewitness. Little more than that. We do have an eyewitness. Little more than that. We do have an eyewitness. 

Plane coming in high speed. Southbound. Good evening, everyone. Good morning, actually. We have, breaking news. This out of, downtown Manhattan, a plane has allegedly crashed into the World Trade Center. You're looking at live pictures right now from news chopper seven. At eight fifty one, that is the time right now. Just a few moments ago, allegedly a plane has crashed into the World Trade Center. Very little known. We are taking live pictures. You're looking at 

it. News chopper seven. I believe John DelGiorno is in the air. John, if you can hear me, what do you see up there? Okay. So John's not with us at this moment, but Associated Press is reporting very little, little more than that. We do have an eyewitness, little more than that. We do have an eyewitness, little more than that. We do have an eyewitness, little more than that. We do have an eyewitness, little more than that. We do have an eyewitness, little more than that. We do have an eyewitness, little more than that. We do have an eyewitness, little more than that. We do have an eyewitness, little more than that. We Both local time, the first plane is over the fifteen heading for the World Trade Center. 

The American Airlines phone seven six seven with ninety two people on board, flies straight into the North Tower. A fireball erupts from a gaping hole in its north face. Three minutes past nine, the United Airlines plane with sixty five on board was directed towards the south tower. The plane bowed into the building exploding in a massive fireball. Experts at the health and safety executive calculated for ITV news that temperatures reached a thousand degrees centigrade 

for nine seconds. It was those fireballs that brought the towers down. Do you have any idea what kind of plane it was? I'm sorry? Do you have any idea what hit the World Trade Center? 

What it was? Yeah. What kind of plane? We're getting reports that an airplane hit the building. I don't know. I I didn't even know that. Honestly It might have been a d c nine or seven forty seven just flew past my window, and I think it may have hit the trade center again. To be to be honest, Elliot, I didn't, yeah, I didn't get the impression that it was that big a plane. Tell us what you saw if you would. I literally I was waiting a table, and I literally saw a it seemed to be like a small plane. He described it as a small plane. It was a small commuter flight. He's just joining us here at Sky Center. 

Wow. I've never seen a plane flying so low. And we we looked out at it, all of a sudden, boom. It it seemed like it wasn't even real. Then, like, twenty minutes after, I just saw the another plane coming on the backside making a huge turn and then hitting the out the other tower. Where was the first plane coming from? From north. What did the plane look like? Like a seven three seven, like a jet plane. I just saw a second plane come in from the south and hit the south tower 

halfway between the bottom and the top of the tower. It's gotta be a a terrorist attack. The plane commercial plane comes towards us. It's gonna hit my buildings. Then it hit my buildings. All of them made a left hand turn and a right, and then hit all of them, the whole downtown area just shook. It just And it actually went into the building there on the upper floor. Into the building. And I never saw that plane before. It's like something I don't know. It's like they work with the motors. I never saw a plane like that before. 

Yeah. And, again, it was it it was not a normal flight that I've ever seen at an airport. Alright. Thank you so much, Jean Yurman. You're very welcome. Eyewitness Eyewitness here to, a loud sonic boom she described as she was sitting inside her apartment. There was a loud sound that I can only describe as it sounded like a missile, not an airplane. Then there was a loud explosion and some people said they thought they saw a missile. Well, I don't know how people could just differentiate, but we might be more than the possibility 

that this was a missile attack. I I was on my roof and I saw something from where I am. I really can't see what it is. I saw something go into into the other building because from where I am, I could see the world's They thought they thought after the sun. I don't know how people could differentiate. At any point during this day, were you just, 

in a very base way, afraid? There was, there were many times, Miles, that, you were afraid, that you were, you were worried, especially when I was, standing in front of the Pentagon that night, seeing one of our, fortresses pried open by a missile, a airplane missile, a airplane, missile, a airplane, missile, a airplane, missile, a airplane, missile, a airplane. I just saw the entire, 

top part World Trade Center explode. I turned on the TV when I heard they said it was a plane. It was really strange. I wanna go to LA first. Frank Buckley is in Los Angeles with us. Frank, what can you tell us about what's going on there? 

Aaron, we just saw what appeared to be, the worst possible situation. The the last thing that we wanna show you, in fact, people arriving here at the airport appear apparently friends or family members of some of the, victims of at least one of the flights. Three flights were bound for Los Angeles, and, they are not arriving here, obviously. Now friends and family are beginning beginning to trickle in. We haven't seen any until this moment. Two people just arriving here at the airport. We can tell you that just within the last, fifteen minutes also, 

this terminal has they've begun a process of evacuating this terminal. And in fact, all of, Los Angeles airport is being evacuated now, we are told, by, airport police. We just spoke to, just a few minutes ago. I'd like to to let you hear from Lieutenant Howard Whitehead of the Los Angeles Airport Police as to the status here at LAX. Three flights were bound for Los Angeles that appeared to have been involved today. What accommodations are being made for the friends and family of passengers? That's been handled by the, airlines. 

They're having a meeting now concerning that. So that information has to get from the airlines. So officially, what are you starting at this point in the morning? A a total evacuation of the of the airport. Will that include both the workers and passengers? Only key employees will remain at the airport. This is the entire airport that will be evacuated? Yes, ma'am. Why is the evacuation? Because the evacuation been ordered. I can't tell you why, but that's what it's that's our stance now. To the airport? It's precautionary at this point. Thanks very much. That that was lieutenant Howard Whitehead of the LAX police telling us again that just within the last fifteen or twenty minutes, an order has come down a command decision to close to evacuate the terminals at LAX. 

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